Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2017

HONKEY TONK

Probably Posted

Antonio Valencia has signed a contract extension with Manchester United that keeps him at the club until June 2019, with the option to extend for a further year.

HONKEY TONK

HONKEY TONK wrote: »

Probably Posted

Antonio Valencia has signed a contract extension with Manchester United that keeps him at the club until June 2019, with the option to extend for a further year.

Zerks 2.0 :P

Nalz

Nalz wrote: »

Some people didn't like this lol

https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2009/1121/257687-france_ireland1/

Looking back on it now it was embarrassing
Not the handball but the 33 teams thing

jayo26

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Looking back on it now it was embarrassing
Not the handball but the 33 teams thing

Half of Ireland signed up to Facebook just to try get the match replayed ha.

bangkok

jayo26 wrote: »

Half of Ireland signed up to Facebook just to try get the match replayed ha.

Only the silly people signed up

jayo26

bangkok wrote: »

Only the silly people signed up

Exactly which is half of ireland

bangkok

jayo26 wrote: »

Exactly which is half of ireland

Id say 40% have no internet

yabadabado

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Looking back on it now it was embarrassing
Not the handball but the 33 teams thing

What else would you expect from JD? The man is a complete embarrassment.

bangkok

yabadabado wrote: »

What else would you expect from JD? The man is a complete embarrassment.

He got 5m all the same. Probably took half it himself

But i do agree with you. He is a di*k

Robson99

GSPfan wrote: »

To be honest Ive been thinking this a lot and I think we might start flirting with a 352 formation to prevent the 433 from turning into a 451 all the time. If we need to score more goals we'll need more players up top. 352 might suit with the players we have. Just need Shaw to show up next year and I reckon Valencia and Shaw would be great wing backs.

Would love to see us try the 352 again if Grizeman comes in. Would need a Kroos type player IMO for middle of the park and Shaw back to his best. Martial / Rashford up top with Grizeman alongside.
But it would limit Mata and Lingard use in the team. Mikateryan could alternate with Pogba and Herrera.
Would be interesting

bucketybuck

Robson99 wrote: »

Would need a Kroos type player IMO for middle of the park and Shaw back to his best. Martial / Rashford up top

I wouldn't like to see any lineup that relies heavily upon players who haven't proven worthy of the responsibility. Give them more chances, sure, but we can't act or plan as if they are going to perform consistently for us.

Hope for the best but plan for the worst, so as far as I am concerned we need to get another first team left back and another first team striker, because relying on Shaw and Martial to come good would be a huge risk.

Trigger

Seems to be the word around Spain today, actually think DeGea/United said no and they are just trying to save face

https://twitter.com/ultrasuristic_/status/868084471035297793

GSPfan

Classic Real Madrid shít talk. Mark my words you'll see a headline soon saying (1) Zidane says he won't pay more than X for De Gea. (2) Zidane targets another player as they decide against signing De Gea. (3) De Gea tells friends he is desperate to join Real Madrid and will push for a move.

jayo26

I think ddg learned his lesson last time I can't see him rocking the boat unless Madrid agree something with United or maybe he won't be interested at all.

GSPfan

Id say Madrid just have to shut up and pay what United want or else there's no deal. United and De Gea will say nothing after the last fiasco.

Korat

Been up to my eyeballs the last two days so I'm only now truly savouring what happened on Wednesday. Some people were laughing at Mourinho saying it was the biggest game in the club's history, but I don't remember many games where the consequences of losing and reward of winning were so stark in contrast.

FWIW in my time as a Utd fan the 1990 FA Cup 3rd round game which saved Fergie's job has been the biggest game, though at the time it just seemed a stay of execution. The significance of it was only realised as trophies piled up.

I think Wednesday could have a different type of significance in years to come. I hope it's looked back on as the spark which ignited a long and successful Mourinho era.

castletownman

Lads I was starstruck earlier. Encountered everyone's favourite utility player, stand-in goalie and Ireland centurian John O'Shea in Dubrovnik airport waiting for a flight home. Happened to be on the same flight as me too and had a brief chat.

Couldn't meet a nicer fella. FWIW, he is adamant that Mourinho had identified the players he wants that suits his system and that United will be a force in the league next year.

Even helped a fella with his child's trolley getting onto the shuttle bus. And was obliging to anyone up asking for a pic/autograph etc. A gent

Blazer

Patrick Evra looks happy to be picked for Carrick's testimonial

http://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/soccer/patrice-evra-celebrated-his-call-up-to-michael-carricks-testimonial-with-an-innovative-beyonce-cover-791390.html

caviardreams

DM_7 wrote: »

If AG arrives and costs 100million, I cant see United spending as huge on more players.

More Bailly or Mkhitaryan type costs.

This is my fear to be honest with AG - I think we really need a 20+ goals a season striker more than anything and if we buy AG will we have enough left to go for one? Definitely would prefer a striker over AG if it's one or the other.

Lithium93_

2017/18 Premier League fixtures released June 14th.

Kerrydude1981

caviardreams wrote: »

This is my fear to be honest with AG - I think we really need a 20+ goals a season striker more than anything and if we buy AG will we have enough left to go for one? Definitely would prefer a striker over AG if it's one or the other.

James Cooper on SSN today,said that Utd are after a CB,FB,CM and a CF

He makes out there will be one big signing and the others will be around the same price as Bailly and Mickey were last year

He also said that Jose like most clubs has A,B,C and D targets for each position

If Jose gets all his A targets he said spending will go well over last years spending

Either way its going to be an interesting summer ahead.

https://twitter.com/MufcDevilUpdate/status/868019799451947009

deaddonkey15

caviardreams wrote: »

This is my fear to be honest with AG - I think we really need a 20+ goals a season striker more than anything and if we buy AG will we have enough left to go for one? Definitely would prefer a striker over AG if it's one or the other.

I reckon Martial would get more than 20 goals if he was our striker for a season.

MuPpItJoCkEy

deaddonkey15 wrote: »

I reckon Martial would get more than 20 goals if he was our striker for a season.

Not sure about that nor would I want to wait and see if it'll happen.

Would much prefer to get somebody who is known to have the ability to do so.

This year United had so many chances and nobody exactly put them away no problem.

caviardreams

deaddonkey15 wrote: »

I reckon Martial would get more than 20 goals if he was our striker for a season.

The Martial of 15/16 I would agree with you, but it's hard to be 100% sure that this season was just a blip. I do think he has the talent and potential to do so, but whether he has the motivation, I am not so sure. He just hasn't looked fully committed this year imo.

yabadabado

I think a DM,CF and a wide attacker are the 3 positions in most need of attention. Sort those out for starters and the rest is a bonus .A FB,CB and probably another CM would be a bonus but I feel that they are lower on the list of priorities.
I reckon a CB will be bought as I think a long term partner for Bailly will be something Jose wants sorted.

Gotta hope Shaw can get fit/convince Jose he's good enough and that's LB sorted .

bucketybuck

caviardreams wrote: »

The Martial of 15/16 I would agree with you, but it's hard to be 100% sure that this season was just a blip. I do think he has the talent and potential to do so, but whether he has the motivation, I am not so sure. He just hasn't looked fully committed this year imo.

What everybody seems to forget is that the Martial of this season was evident in his debut season also. He had a lot of rubbish games games under Van Gaal, a lot of games where he was a peripheral figure or faded from the game completely, just as we have seen him do this season. He escaped criticism for it then because it was just his first season and because he started well, but those performances were there, they did not just start happening because Mourinho came in and held him back.

This is why I might seem down on Martial, because in my eyes its not just a poor run, its a standard of performance that has been there for well over a year now, he simply hasn't pushed on at all from his debut 2 years ago. And this isn't hindsight, here is what I said last March:

But the performance from Martial is about what I would expect from a 19 year old thrown into a top side and being asked to carry all their hopes and aspirations without a break all season. I don't think he has been quite as impressive as a lot of fans seem to think, his impressive start has covered up more than a few poor games to be honest, but on the flip side I would also expect a lot less from a kid of his age.

I don't say sell him, but there is no way we can say that he will march out next season and bag 20 goals because the evidence isn't there for that, and we would be fools to rely on him suddenly sparking into life.

bucketybuck

bucketybuck wrote: »

And this isn't hindsight, here is what I said last March:

Its worth pointing out, here is a line from the post I was responding to last March...

Martials attitude yesterday stank. If your into that sort of thing, I'm surprised he wasn't singled out more. The game wasn't going his way and he totally shrank.

No, Martials performances this season are nothing new whatsoever.

Korat

deaddonkey15 wrote: »

I reckon Martial would get more than 20 goals if he was our striker for a season.

Déjà vu

I would be delighted if you're right but I think we should sign a proven striker just in case.

deaddonkey15

bucketybuck wrote: »

What everybody seems to forget is that the Martial of this season was evident in his debut season also. He had a lot of rubbish games games under Van Gaal, a lot of games where he was a peripheral figure or faded from the game completely, just as we have seen him do this season. He escaped criticism for it then because it was just his first season and because he started well, but those performances were there, they did not just start happening because Mourinho came in and held him back.

Similarly there were games this season where he was quite good and not the disinterested player that many seem to think he was all season.

bucketybuck wrote: »

I don't say sell him, but there is no way we can say that he will march out next season and bag 20 goals because the evidence isn't there for that, and we would be fools to rely on him suddenly sparking into life.

17 goals in that van Gaal side when he was 19/20, some quality finishes too. Over the course of a season with Rashford, Mkhitaryan, and possibly Griezmann around him I'd say he'd easily reach 20.

Robson99

Martial and Rashford are two of the best young attackers in Europe. Put Grizeman along side either of them and once Jose starts playing expansive football then they will score 20+ a season

Cookiemunster

Robson99 wrote: »

Martial and Rashford are two of the best young attackers in Europe. Put Grizeman along side either of them and once Jose starts playing expansive football then they will score 20+ a season

Did you miss the first 2/3s of the season where we created bucket loads of scoring opportunities in most games that the players, including Rashford and Martial, failed to convert?

bucketybuck

deaddonkey15 wrote: »

Similarly there were games this season where he was quite good and not the disinterested player that many seem to think he was all season.

Sure he had good games, they were pretty noticeable in that after each of them people raved about him and hoped he was about to hit form. Middlesborough anyone?

The problem is that he didn't, there were far more lacklustre games than good games. We cannot afford that patchy sort of form from our strikers next season.

17 goals in that van Gaal side when he was 19/20, some quality finishes too. Over the course of a season with Rashford, Mkhitaryan, and possibly Griezmann around him I'd say he'd easily reach 20.

I would be happy if he did. I wouldn't bet our season upon it though.

GSPfan

Right lads I'm sorry in advance but have a watch of this link of Zabaleta surprising some fans on his last day at City. You are already thinking "Wrong thread" but watch to the end. The little young fella's reaction is priceless. Mini Zaba.

Had me crying happy tears. Lovely moment. Fúck club rivalry, this is beautiful.

http://www.sportbible.com/football/news-take-a-bow-legends-watch-pablo-zabaleta-surprises-manchester-city-fans-before-leaving-20170526

sky88

GSPfan wrote: »

Right lads I'm sorry in advance but have a watch of this link of Zabaleta surprising some fans on his last day at City. You are already thinking "Wrong thread" but watch to the end. The little young fella's reaction is priceless. Mini Zaba.

Had me crying happy tears. Lovely moment. Fúck club rivalry, this is beautiful.

http://www.sportbible.com/football/news-take-a-bow-legends-watch-pablo-zabaleta-surprises-manchester-city-fans-before-leaving-20170526

That's just a love of football great to see whatever the club

Robson99

Cookiemunster wrote: »

Did you miss the first 2/3s of the season where we created bucket loads of scoring opportunities in most games that the players, including Rashford and Martial, failed to convert?

No but I believe we need to build around them. And Grizeman would be ideal to get the best out of them

Korat

sky88 wrote: »

That's just a love of football great to see whatever the club

Solid no nonsense player too, mostly. City's Denis Irwin.

Jayop

Great player and seems a sound lad.

Trigger

https://twitter.com/antogriezmann/status/868198963630845952

All the rumours are unfounded, I'm still Colchonero (Atletico player). My orientation will be established after discussion with my Sports Advisor (Agent)

DM_7

People always talk about how assured the defence is when DDG is in goal.

At the other end maybe United were snatching at chances as they didn't have have great confidence in themselves or those around them. Its why I think Zlatan scored so many, he has unreal confidence so did not let a miss give him negative thoughts on the next chance.

I have no doubt in a buzzing team, Martial will score lots of goals. As would Rashford. Pogba amd Mkhitaryan would get more in a team really believing in themselves.

I dont expect United to change much in overall approach next season. In big games Jose will come up with a specific plan. Its the regular at home where he needs to bring more width to create more space for those lads to work in.

GSPfan

Sounds like negotiations are getting all negotiationy.

Griezmann trying to back track a bit just incase it all falls apart. Id say United aren't willing to pay the release fee.

Trigger

GSPfan wrote: »

Sounds like negotiations are getting all negotiationy.

Griezmann trying to back track a bit just incase it all falls apart. Id say United aren't willing to pay the release fee.

Sounds to me that he is just enjoying his holidays and hasn't decided anything and will decide when he gets back

GSPfan

astradave wrote: »

Sounds to me that he is just enjoying his holidays and hasn't decided anything and will decide when he gets back

I would be putting good money that Griezmann has already agreed to it in principal and is just waiting on the clubs to agree a fee. After Griezmann effectively announced it on tv Id say it was a bit premature and he has to roll back just incase. If he hasn't made his mind up by now and United are still chasing him then we're idiots. I highly doubt that's the case.

bucketybuck

DM_7 wrote: »

I have no doubt in a buzzing team, Martial will score lots of goals. As would Rashford. Pogba amd Mkhitaryan would get more in a team really believing in themselves.

This is one of the things I don't like about our current squad. Anybody can be great when the whole team is buzzing, where are the characters that will stand up and perform when everybody else is doing poor? We cant have 4/5 attackers all waiting for somebody else to make things happen before they start performing.

Lithium93_

This day last year.

Minderbinder

Korat wrote: »

So Jose Mourinho wins trophies, who'd have guessed. Oh ye of little faith.

It's predictable that people who hated him from the start will now complain about the style of our most successful season since Fergie left but seriously go watch Liverpool or Arsenal if winning trophies isn't the most important outcome of a season.

Stupid post. I can't recall any United supporter who claimed Jose wouldn't win trophies. The style of play was pretty much all they complained about throughout the season so don't act as if it's suddenly an issue after winning a trophy.

StringerBell

The style of play was perfectly acceptable, wonderful at times until the final month or two of the season, don't act like the style of play has been an issue.

Minderbinder

StringerBell wrote: »

The style of play was perfectly acceptable, wonderful at times until the final month or two of the season, don't act like the style of play has been an issue.

I must have dreamt about all those posts from multiple posters who were often disillusioned at some of our performances and approaches to games.

Lithium93_

13 years ago yesterday, Alan Smith signed from Leeds United.

Liam McPoyle

Minderbinder wrote: »

I must have dreamt about all those posts from multiple posters who were often disillusioned at some of our performances and approaches to games.

Liverpool fans or Chelcelonaich City fans opinion of Jose or Manchester United do not count because they are so ridiculously skewed they are gone beyond parody.

There were not multiple posters (United fans) often disillusioned with our performances, there were a few but of those, they admittedly hate Jose and didn't want him at the club in the first place so their criticism bordered on parody.

Of course there was some criticism, that's par for the course.

Of course there was some annoyance, that's par for the course.

Of course there was some head scratching with relation to some of the tactics / substitutions, that's par for the course.

But multiple posters (United fans) often disillusioned?

Not even close.

The_Kew_Tour

After seeing Evra video from few days ago im not sure if its normal self or if he bat sh!t crazy.

But I love it!