Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2017

bangkok

zerks wrote: »

https://twitter.com/CmdotCom_En/status/877168960394997760

Juve looking to Darmian as Alves replacement.

Hi juventus.

We paid ye 90m for pogba. Darmian will cost ye 30m please.

Thank you
Man Utd

Cotts72

https://www.google.ie/amp/talksport.com/football/deal-agreed-manchester-united-set-sign-benfica-star-anderson-talisca-reports-170620243679%3Famp

Turkish media running the talisca to united story again

Your Airbag

Lord TSC wrote: »

I saw people saying last night that it feels like Spain needs cash, so is hitting as many rich people as they can for money

Maybe Jose and Ronaldo can bond over this :P

EDIT: Of course, it's also another Mendes clinet being hit for tax fraud too. There's a common link...

Rumor has it Ronaldo hasn't done anything wrong. Even though he was not due to pay taxes on his image rights (deemed foreign earnings) he apparently paid some to avoid any indiscretions in the future. The Spanish authorities are supposedly very hungry right now and operate unethically at times many feel.

They changed the law on image rights to now say not all of them are foreign earnings but instead of taxing them going forward they have apparently retroactively apllied this law to past earnings and are going after the very rich, opening tax evasion cases and such, they especially like high profile stars. Thats a very dirty trick if true imo

To stay ahead of this Ronaldo made a voluntary payment using the new guidelines. The new guidelines make about 10% of his image rights liable for Spanish tax and Ronaldo actually paid 20% (To cover things like penalty charges).

Now they have changed the goalposts again and are wanting to collect tax on even more of the foreign earnings.

I can understand why CR7 is angry and feels personally targeted and wants to leave, I'm sure the whistling and booing from Madrid fans didn't help either.

Thibus

Cotts72 wrote: »

https://www.google.ie/amp/talksport.com/football/deal-agreed-manchester-united-set-sign-benfica-star-anderson-talisca-reports-170620243679%3Famp

Turkish media running the talisca to united story again

And apparently he will be the first summer signing. I wouldn't be too quick to beileve that article

pjohnson

We would miss Darmian. Hes not gunna be first choice right or left but he is a more than adequate back up on both sides. That versatility is quite hard to find.

TheDoc

jayo26 wrote: »

Hate all the comparisons to fergie its over its a new period of management.

If shanked was still alive and in charge of Liverpool fergie wouldn't of lasted more then four years with united.

Ronaldo if he ends up coming back great if he doesn't hopefully we sign out striker target and if it's morata I've no doubt he will be a success.

Think it's a fair enough comparison. assuming the story with Ronaldo is true, I'm sure it would be more weightful if Ferguson was still in charge. The two have a great bond and massive respect.

The same cannot be said between Jose and Ronaldo, so I think it's a pretty apt comparison, albeit completely pointless.

Obviously it was just said at the time as a big of a pride thing, not wanting to accept anywhere is bigger then United, but Fergie did warn him the grass sin't always greener. And while he has gone on to great things, win great things, achieve great records, I don't think he'd ever get the adoration and legendary status he would have enjoyed at United. Maybe somewhere deep down he's regretted it for some time, or that there is truth in that part of the story.

His name is still sung by our fans at games, while those ungrateful ratbag fans whistle and boo him.

Be ultimately sweet football if he came back and we got to a CL final against Madrid where he buried them for us.

Trigger

I think Juve have been in touch and that's why the Semedo links have popped back up

Jayop

pjohnson wrote: »

We would miss Darmian. Hes not gunna be first choice right or left but he is a more than adequate back up on both sides. That versatility is quite hard to find.

I'm his biggest critic but he showed something at the end of last season that would make me annoyed to lose him.

JamboMac

Should we not try and get bonucci if the want darmian, we can play 3 at the back.:)

jayo26

Jayop wrote: »

I'm his biggest critic but he showed something at the end of last season that would make me annoyed to lose him.

He was excellent in Europa Cup final

Headshot

zerks wrote: »

https://twitter.com/CmdotCom_En/status/877168960394997760

Juve looking to Darmian as Alves replacement.

ugh.

**** off Juve

Lord TSC

They can finance the Semedo deal if true. We don't need to sell so I expect a decent fee for him if he goes.

Cotts72

astradave wrote: »

I think Juve have been in touch and that's why the Semedo links have popped back up

I reckon united were gonna hold off on Semedo till next year but recent interest from barca and bayern may have forced their hand

RobertKK

When it comes to transfers, United and if they do or do not want Ronaldo, I think it is like Mata last year, oh he was out the door, some were convinced, Mourinho didn't rate him, blah, blah, blah...
We can only what we have to do anyway, wait and see what United do, the speculation, rumours and the discussion is the fun bit once business is getting done behind the scenes.
Mourinho doesn't want Ronaldo, is in the same category as Mourinho doesn't want Mata. The only questions about about Ronaldo are: will he leave, and if he does leave where will he go.

In the meantime, we have got a centre back and as for the rest, we don't really know.

StringerBell

Hopefully you won't mind me outing you, just want to say a big congrats to our very own Mars Bar on latest coaching qualification. Your starting to run out of badges to do

jayo26

StringerBell wrote: »

Hopefully you won't mind me outing you, just want to say a big congrats to our very own Mars Bar on latest coaching qualification. Your starting to run out of badges to do

Congrats mars well done.

One of the most knowledgeable and likeable posters in here after myself

Jayop

jayo26 wrote: »

Congrats mars well done.

One of the most knowledgeable and likeable posters in here after myself myselves

fyp

GSPfan

Juventus - History of signing good players for next to nothing.
Man United - History of selling good players for next to nothing.

Darmian to Juventus will probably be a free transfer so.

deaddonkey15

jayo26 wrote: »

Congrats mars well done.

One of the most knowledgeable and likeable posters in here after myself

And me.

jayo26

Jayop wrote: »

fyp

Stealing my flipping thanks ffs.

jayo26

deaddonkey15 wrote: »

And me.

Your dead

adox

jayo26 wrote: »

Your dead

As is good grammar. :pac:

GSPfan

adox wrote: »

As is good grammar. :pac:

I thought same.

bangkok

Pogba doing some amount of promotional work for adidas in china..

jayo26

adox wrote: »

As is good grammar. :pac:

My grammar was never with us in first place I have never pretend that it was...

Bleating Lamb

So who is the better right back ....Semedo or Fabinho?

bucketybuck

Personally I would be happy to give Darmian another shot at the right back berth and if we get another defender make it a left back.

Trigger

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

So who is the better right back ....Semedo or Fabinho?

Fabinho would be better as a DM though he can play RB to a high standard. Semedo is probably better as a FB

deaddonkey15

We need right backs that can provide an extra attacking outlet to support our wingers who were too often doubled up on last season, I don't think Darmian offers that. He is sound defensively though and for many games where we will be playing more defensively that will be exactly what we need. Great squad player regardless and good cover for both left and right back. I'd be disappointed to see him leave.

caviardreams

jayo26 wrote: »

Id really really not like to see darmian move I think he is a soldier full back on left or right he is valuable that the team.

Can also do a job at Centre back if we were stuck. Priceless versatility - it might take two signings to replace that level of cover.

Can understand he might want to leave himself if it guaranteed first team football however, which is what worries me. If Darmian leaves, we 100% need a new left back as Shaw is the only tenable long-term option there imo, and arguably cover for right back as well (if they can't play both)

Mars Bar

StringerBell wrote: »

Hopefully you won't mind me outing you, just want to say a big congrats to our very own Mars Bar on latest coaching qualification. Your starting to run out of badges to do

Thank you!

RobertKK

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/manchester-united-would-cristiano-ronaldos-10655347

Duncan Castles continues to say Ronaldo is top of the list for the striker role.

While Ronaldo has been elevated to the top of their recruitment list for the simple reason that he is by some margin the best forward actively seeking to switch clubs, there is a degree of scepticism over their ability to secure a deal with Madrid following a series of historic failures.

Lord TSC

http://www.football-italia.net/104461/madrid-milan-€60m-james

Madrid have reportedly accepted a bid of €60m from Milan for James, but he is holding out from accepting himself as he wants to join us, apparently.

bangkok

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

So who is the better right back ....Semedo or Fabinho?

Valencia currently better than both at the moment, but i would prefer fabinho as he can play a few positions

RobertKK

Lord TSC wrote: »

http://www.football-italia.net/104461/madrid-milan-€60m-james

Madrid have reportedly accepted a bid of €60m from Milan for James, but he is holding out from accepting himself as he wants to join us, apparently.

Perez said no one was leaving

But then went onto say Coentrao was going to Sporting Lisbon.

Trigger

bangkok wrote: »

Valencia currently better than both at the moment, but i would prefer fabinho as he can play a few positions

At what exactly?

i would actually like to know how you came to that. I personally believe thats rose tinted glasses speaking.

bangkok

astradave wrote: »

At what exactly?

i would actually like to know how you came to that. I personally believe thats rose tinted glasses speaking.

He is a better defender than both, better at bringing the ball out of defense with pace. Stronger than both, quicker than both.

Also it takes a great player to win the man utd player of the year award

Liam O

bangkok wrote: »

He is a better defender than both, better at bringing the ball out of defense with pace. Stronger than both, quicker than both.

You've watched Fabinho play right back a lot this season then?

Catch a lot of Benfica games too?

bangkok

Liam O wrote: »

You've watched Fabinho play right back a lot this season then?

Catch a lot of Benfica games too?

Most games ive seen monaco play fabinho was playing in midfield.

Seen semedo play a few times for benfica and thats where i made my judgement.

You must have seen them more than me if you think they are both better than valencia

Liam McPoyle

Lord TSC wrote: »

http://www.football-italia.net/104461/madrid-milan-€60m-james

Madrid have reportedly accepted a bid of €60m from Milan for James, but he is holding out from accepting himself as he wants to join us, apparently.

I'd take him for that kind of fee.

https://twitter.com/FullTimeDEVILS/status/877221022092718081

bangkok

M!Ck^ wrote: »

https://twitter.com/FullTimeDEVILS/status/877221022092718081

So pogbas agent gets to keep the 41m. Football is sick

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M!Ck^ wrote: »

https://twitter.com/FullTimeDEVILS/status/877221022092718081

hahahaha

Screw you Juve

duffman13

M!Ck^ wrote: »

https://twitter.com/FullTimeDEVILS/status/877221022092718081

If the stuff about Raiola is true then the amount he was paid was basically a back hander from Juve to attract Pogba in the first place. If i was pogba or any of his clients I'd be considering who is representing me going forward. By all means it worked out for Pogba but it seems like Fergie had the the right idea about Raiolas intentions.

Robson99

bucketybuck wrote: »

Personally I would be happy to give Darmian another shot at the right back berth and if we get another defender make it a left back.

Valencia is a far better player than Darmian. Darmian is easily replaced

jayo26

bangkok wrote: »

So pogbas agent gets to keep the 41m. Football is sick

Sure he had a contract that entitled him to it?? No one can take it from him they can just punish him and juventus for breaking rules if they have been broken.

adox

https://twitter.com/danroan/status/877229482633039872

bangkok

jayo26 wrote: »

Sure he had a contract that entitled him to it?? No one can take it from him they can just punish him and juventus for breaking rules if they have been broken.

Its just sick that he is hired by both man utd and juventus at the same time to do a deal that makes him ****loads of money. He is trying to make as much money for juventus by screwing over united yet united have to pay him loads of money to do a deal. It just stinks. 41m for one deal!!! He probably had feck all to do as well. A few phone calls, flight to america to see pogba, flight to italy and probably a meeting in london. Football agents are rotten to the core. A bit like politicians

bangkok

adox wrote: »

https://twitter.com/danroan/status/877229482633039872

He was paid 21.5m euro a season at real!!!! Wow

Hococop

Isn't modric up for the tax issue as well?