Suspected Terrorist Attack in Paris

Hank Scorpio

[Deleted User] wrote: »

How exactly does someone who had an "important criminal record", had served supposedly 20 years in prison for an attack similar to what he carried out last night, and was known to authorities, get their hands on such a weapon?

A phonecall ?

He was probably seen as no threat on release.

BoatMad

BoatMad wrote: »

The parallels between the historical persecution of the Jews, and the trends towards similar persecution of Muslims in Europe are there for all to see

Bull****.

They are not identical , because of course the demonisation of Muslims is at an early stage , while we are fully aware of the course of Jewish persecution by European nationalists

Demonisation. But of course.

My comments were to draw parallels between what some people are saying here ( detainment, deportation , demonisation ) and very similar parallels in the European Jewish history of persecution from the mid 19th century onwards in particular ( particularly in Russia )

Not really, no.

The holocaust was to some extent a terrible almost logical conclusion , in European persecution of its Jewish minority, clearly there is no parallel , what I am saying is that the route being followed , if some actions were to be carried out by nationalist fanatics begins to look horribly similar too the early stages of the jewish persecution

Some skinny blinkers ya got on there.

K.Flyer

I think at this stage the Thread title could be changed... Suspected to "Another"

Widdershins

ceadaoin. wrote: »

slightly ironic considering the rising anti Semitic attacks across Europe and the fact that Jews are leaving Europe in record numbers. And that's not as a result of far right groups. Do you care about the Jews who feel they are no longer safe in Europe?

Also, many Jewish people are highly offended by comparisons of the current situation in Europe to the holocaust.

I agree with this, I don't think there's a comparison to be made at all, actually. I think there's a huge awareness of the concept of hate attacks against Muslims and members of the media and public have gone as far as to moderate how they report on terrorism because of the fear of reprisal attacks (a journalist on Newstalk a couple of years ago spoke of her moral compass and what she saw as the media's responsibility to contain inflammatory facts) and seem highly sensitive to the potential to feed into ant Muslim sentiment, the Jews were never afforded protection, while the Jews are bearing the brunt of anti Israel feeling and hatred and attacks from Islamists.

inforfun

Deleted User wrote: »

How exactly does someone who had an "important criminal record", had served supposedly 20 years in prison for an attack similar to what he carried out last night, and was known to authorities, get their hands on such a weapon?

That is not so hard as long as you dont think the "lone wolf" theory has any credibility.
He doesnt have to have that AK in possession for weeks in order to use it last night.
His pals might have given it to him 5 minutes before.

Widdershins

BoatMad wrote: »

The same comments were said of the IRA ( we dont talk to terrorists , etc )

No, the IRA did have demands, which Britain refused to countenance, the Islamists make it very clear that they revile the West and its culture. The IRA did not wage war on Europe in the same way ISIS do, it wasn't even remotely similar, which you claimed earlier. For someone lecturing another poster on his knowledge of ISIS's inception you seem unaware of the main points yourself.

Biggest lickspittle on boardz

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

Do you believe that refugees from terror regions have integrated well into the Western society as a whole? Why doesn't china Japan and so on have these problems?

I fully disagree on your stance that carrying on with life as normal will make this problem go away in the long term. It's not isolationist to limit people coming from terror regions who's culture vastly differs from our way of life, it's common sense. Immigration works when the people coming respect our society and want to integrate, I don't believe that's what's been happening for the most part.

FYI, China does have a problem with ethnic Uighur in the north-west province of Xinjiang. Most of these would not be immigrants, but they would be mostly Muslim. The region has been plagued by a series of knife and car attacks in recent years.

Which only reinforces your position that there is a major fundamental problem with Islam and other cultures.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-26414014

Hande hoche!

K.Flyer wrote: »

I think at this stage the Thread title could be changed... Suspected to "Another"

The shooting makes a change from the vehicular assaults of late.

Widdershins

BoatMad wrote: »

because by its nature internment is a scatter gun. Not all domestic muslims are radicalised, however , lock up your son or daughter for a crime that she or he has not yet committed and , hey presto, a radicalised son, daughter, mother and father and all the attached family

the result is more domestic orientated violence

Go down that rabbit hole , and keep going, and the result is " the final solution ", because all these do is make the problem worse. The British realised this ( as did DeValera, when he considered it as well )

Just like Trump and Healthcare , " its complicated" and simplistic , paper napkin , knee jerk reactions are likely to make it worse and not better

The comment mentioning internment made reference to Islamism sympathisers, not ''all Muslims'' so it's pointless to go further with this comment. Logically there would be steps in between suspecting and confirming and interning, we have the means to do so now.

MysticMonk

Deleted User wrote: »

How exactly does someone who had an "important criminal record", had served supposedly 20 years in prison for an attack similar to what he carried out last night, and was known to authorities, get their hands on such a weapon?

The same way criminals source weapons all over the world.

They buy them or borrow them from other criminals.

Were you implying that he walked into a gun shop and purchased it legally?

Or maybe you're implying that he was actually a sinister agent of international Nazism who was furnished with the gun by the french secret service to discredit muslims?

Just give it a rest,will ya?

Biggest lickspittle on boardz

A Little Pony wrote: »

Can anyone explain to me what Islamophobia means? Why is it a phobia to not like Islam? It is a very bizarre way to try and label someone to try and discredit them if they are critical about it.

It's victim blaming on steroids. Not only are we 'responsible' for the attacks by not being extra nice and submissive to the terrorists, you must also be attacked if you even hint that there might be a problem with Islam. Didn't you get the memo? It's always the West's fault. And even when it isn't, blame them anyway.

This exposes the brutality of the multicultural experiment and political correctness, which is essentially a form of non-violent psychological terror. You only have to see the very organised and deliberate witch hunts that take place on social media from the left whenever someone offers a mildly controversial opinion. There is no room for dissenting voices or logic, our superior European progressives have already decided what is good for us. It doesn't matter what you say or do, your opinion has already been relegated to that of intellectual untermensch. And there are plenty of paid shills/useful idiots in the media and political offices who are taking bribes from George Soros' Open Society to promote policies that are working against the best interests of the West.

It has already been decided by Europe that hundreds of deaths and thousands of rapes are acceptable collateral damage as long as control is maintained of the great synthetic society where all truth can be suppressed and replaced with carefully filtered news and strictly controlled 'diverse' opinions.

The echo chamber that politicians live in isn't going to change soon, if anything they're just going to get more aggressive against those who speak out. I wonder if the Irish Times will come out with another article about how this attack will play into the hands of the far-right, just like they did mere hours after the Stockholm attacks.

CoolHandBandit

This happened on the streets of Holland last night. Could of ended much worse if this chump had access to an AK47 like the clown in Paris. I notice a common trend with these people.

https://twitter.com/OnlineMagazin/status/855339563232878594

Nemeses2050

Borussia Dortmund bombs: 'Speculator' charged with bus attack

Police in Germany have charged a man suspected of being behind an attack on the Borussia Dortmund team bus.
Rather than having links to radical Islamism, he was a market trader hoping to make money if the price of shares in the team fell, prosecutors say.
The 28-year-old, identified only as Sergej W, was staying in the team's hotel in a room overlooking the street where the explosion took place

Full details

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39664212

Harry Palmr

That linky no worky.

inforfun

CoolHandBandit wrote: »

This happened on the streets of Holland last night. Could of ended much worse if this chump had access to an AK47 like the clown in Paris. I notice a common trend with these people.

https://twitter.com/OnlineMagazin/status/855339563232878594

That is footage that appeared last night but it happend on april 12th already.
Also was a knife and not a machete.
First a few warning shots and when he didnt listen because he was too busy screaming his imaginary friends name, police shot him in the leg.

Palmach

BoatMad wrote: »

Have you any clue as to how ISIS arrived on the scene , and why they received huge support from the Sunni population

DO you not accept there are reasons for so called terror groups to exist, or is it that 100,000s of people suddenly woke up one morning and said , " lets make bombs "

Have you any idea of the history and the process behind this situation

Yes this book is what motivates them and the fact that a significant minority of Muslims take a literal interpretation of it.



If you are not prepared to accept that philosophical trends in Islam play a large part in the creation of the Islamic state you are in denial.

A Little Pony

dav3 wrote: »

A Little Pony wrote: »

Can anyone explain to me what Islamophobia means? Why is it a phobia to not like Islam? It is a very bizarre way to try and label someone to try and discredit them if they are critical about it.

A phobia is an extreme or irrational fear of or aversion to something, I think it would be a quite apt description for someone such as yourself who is scared of their own shadow.
Having said that, a phobia would be classed as a disorder, so I think we should go easy on people with such a disorder.

This is why the term is bullsh*t. What is irrational about not agreeing with Islam and its tenants? The oppressive nature of the ideology, what is possibly irrational about not liking it? It is a bizarre argument many people on the left make that by being critical of Islam you are Islamophobic.


Also this notion that what is happening now with Muslims and Jews in the early 20th century is so insulting to the Jewish people it beggars belief that people actually make the comparison and argument. The Jewish people had been persecuted for hundreds of years in Europe, going back to Richard the Lionheart.


Jewish people did not have such groups and such an ideology like we are seeing now with Muslims. Jews are great at integrating into societies, that is not the case with a lot of Muslims throughout Europe, that is pretty evident at this point. France now has communities divided, ghettos set up, huge social division.
Paris will soon be like Belfast 70s and 80s, sectarian murders, bombings and the whole works.

MysticMonk

3 relatives of the attacker are in custody

Reddit Live Thread

Also, the identity of the attacker is known by authorities, but they are not confirming due to on-going investigations. More to be said at press conference today.

Chief Prosecutor: The identity of the attacker is known but not made public because of current investigations. More will be said in a press meeting tomorrow during the day.

MysticMonk wrote: »

The same way criminals source weapons all over the world.

They buy them or borrow them from other criminals.

Were you implying that he walked into a gun shop and purchased it legally?

Or maybe you're implying that he was actually a sinister agent of international Nazism who was furnished with the gun by the french secret service to discredit muslims?

Just give it a rest,will ya?

Give what a rest, exactly?

You obviously misunderstood the intention of my post. There seems to have been a huge failing on the side of the French authorities that such an individual was able to acquire such a weapon.

dav3

A Little Pony wrote: »

This is why the term is bullsh*t. What is irrational about...

People justify their irrational fear and hatred of things such as snakes and spiders in the same way.

I'm sure most people can sense your anxiety just from your posts.

At the end of the day, it’s still an irrational fear and is viewed as a disorder. A disorder you can seek help with if you so wish.

MysticMonk

Deleted User wrote: »

You obviously misunderstood the intention of my post. There seems to have been a huge failing on the side of the French authorities that such an individual was able to acquire such a weapon.

Ah..so it's actually the French Authorities' fault??

Anything but blame the perpetrators,eh?

inforfun

"Great" timing, you sick twisted elitist twat.

ChikiChiki

inforfun wrote: »

And here is your cultural enrichment brought to you by your political elite.
AKA Abou Yousef al-Belgiki

Jailed for 20 years in 2001 for shooting at police, released in 2016, no doubt for good behaviour.

At least this Polish minister talks sense

An admirable and correct stance. Whats Endas position on it?

the_syco

Deleted User wrote: »

There seems to have been a huge failing on the side of the French authorities that such an individual was able to acquire such a weapon.

It's a gun. Acquire it anywhere in the EU, drive over to France, and give it to your local nutjob. Or have they said where the gun came from?

testaccount123

dav3 wrote: »

People justify their irrational fear and hatred of things such as snakes and spiders in the same way.

I'm sure most people can sense your anxiety just from your posts.

At the end of the day, it’s still an irrational fear and is viewed as a disorder. A disorder you can seek help with if you so wish.

You think people who dont like Islam have a mental disorder?

Bizarre.

ChikiChiki

Nemeses2050 wrote: »

Borussia Dortmund bombs: 'Speculator' charged with bus attack

Police in Germany have charged a man suspected of being behind an attack on the Borussia Dortmund team bus.
Rather than having links to radical Islamism, he was a market trader hoping to make money if the price of shares in the team fell, prosecutors say.
The 28-year-old, identified only as Sergej W, was staying in the team's hotel in a room overlooking the street where the explosion took place

Full details

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39664212

If ever I seen utter fabrication thats it! Angela is getting creative.

The_Kew_Tour

inforfun wrote: »

"Great" timing, you sick twisted elitist twat.

You live in Holland? Can I ask your opinion on how things are going in Holland?

Whats your own opinion? I be just interested to hear it. Have things gotten out of hand or is it just people trying spin for a agenda?

I have 2 close friends who live in Holland now. I get two conflicting views, but one lives in quiet area and one in Amsterdam.

Widdershins

dav3 wrote: »

People justify their irrational fear and hatred of things such as snakes and spiders in the same way.

I'm sure most people can sense your anxiety just from your posts.

At the end of the day, it’s still an irrational fear and is viewed as a disorder. A disorder you can seek help with if you so wish.

You're calling someone who is in some way opposed to a religion ''irrational''. And a religion wit some notably irrational aspects at that.

Nobody can sense ''anxiety'' from their posts, stop gaslighting.

Ulysses Gaze

dav3 wrote: »

People justify their irrational fear and hatred of things such as snakes and spiders in the same way.

I'm sure most people can sense your anxiety just from your posts.

At the end of the day, it?s still an irrational fear and is viewed as a disorder. A disorder you can seek help with if you so wish.

Would you be saying the same thing about people who hate Christianity and the Catholic Church?

Danzy

Can you closely follow Islam and not be ultra right?

Danzy

Danzy wrote: »

Can you closely follow Islam and not be ultra right?

Well, you've shown that you don't follow Islam but are ultra right.

inforfun

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

You live in Holland? Can I ask your opinion on how things are going in Holland?

Whats your own opinion? I be just interested to hear it. Have things gotten out of hand or is it just people trying spin for a agenda?

I have 2 close friends who live in Holland now. I get two conflicting views, but one lives in quiet area and one in Amsterdam.

I am Dutch but left 15 years ago. Of course i am back there every now and then and the city i was born in... well that is not my city anymore. Entering from the north by train the 1st landmark used to be the beautiful Van Nelle factory and/or Het kasteel (Sparta's football stadium). Now it is a mosque.

Coming from the south, the 1st landmark was the greatest football stadium in the world (i might be biased here...) De Kuip.
Now it is a mosque whose minarets just had to be a little bit higher than the lights of the stadium

When i went to school i was in a 30 people class where there were some Indonesians, one or 2 from Surinam, there was a pakistani, a Chinese guy, some girl from Yugoslavia, and i am probably forgetting some one.
No issues at all really, it worked.

Nowadays there are schools that cant even teach about the 2nd world war anymore as 90% of the kids are muslim and have been filled with hate so much already, the holocaust is being celebrated and cheered on.

This clip is from the Dutch RTE who called it euphemistically "difficult" to teach about the holocaust in certain schools.

There is always agenda spinning and there for you should always inform yourself by using different sources.
But when the government sponsored NPO (€600 million a year tax money goes there) calls something that the political elite embraces "difficult" be sure there is something really, really wrong.

It is a matter of when, not if, there will be a thread like this about a Dutch city.
And that is after we got Theo van Gogh already, Hirsi Ali who had to move countries, a member of parliament who lives under 24/7 protection for 14 years now and several other "incidents".

testaccount123

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Would you be saying the same thing about people who hate Christianity and the Catholic Church?

Only need to go back a few posts in the chaps history to see him openly mocking Christianity. Presumably the mental disorder doesnt cover not liking Catholics and their own horrible carry on.

MysticMonk

the_syco wrote: »

It's a gun. Acquire it anywhere in the EU, drive over to France, and give it to your local nutjob. Or have they said where the gun came from?

There are huge and well-quipped criminal networks all over europe..france has had them for generations based around Marseilles and the outskirts of paris,mostly concerned with the distribution of drugs. Where there are drugs there are guns.
If i was to hazard a guess i would say that this weapon originated in Europe too,perhaps the former yugoslavia or any of the myriad eastern and central european countries where you can pick up an assault weapon for around $400..ammunition being substantially more expensive.

Italian Comorra gangs have been using weapons like this for years.


If you have the money and connections it's incredibly easy to source firearms

The_Kew_Tour

inforfun wrote: »

I am Dutch but left 15 years ago. Of course i am back there every now and then and the city i was born in... well that is not my city anymore. Entering from the north by train the 1st landmark used to be the beautiful Van Nelle factory and/or Het kasteel (Sparta's football stadium). Now it is a mosque.

Coming from the south, the 1st landmark was the greatest football stadium in the world (i might be biased here...) De Kuip.
Now it is a mosque whose minarets just had to be a little bit higher than the lights of the stadium

When i went to school i was in a 30 people class where there were some Indonesians, one or 2 from Surinam, there was a pakistani, a Chinese guy, some girl from Yugoslavia, and i am probably forgetting some one.
No issues at all really, it worked.

Nowadays there are schools that cant even teach about the 2nd world war anymore as 90% of the kids are muslim and have been filled with hate so much already, the holocaust is being celebrated and cheered on.

This clip is from the Dutch RTE who called it euphemistically "difficult" to teach about the holocaust in certain schools.

There is always agenda spinning and there for you should always inform yourself by using different sources.
But when the government sponsored NPO (?600 million a year tax monsy goes there) calls something that the political elite embraces "difficult" be sure there is something really, really wrong.

It is a matter of when, not if, there will be a thread like this about a Dutch city.
And that is after we got Theo van Gogh already, Hirsi Ali who had to move countries, a member of parliament who lives under 24/7 protection for 14 years now and several other "incidents".

Cheers for that. Appreciate it

jmayo

WinnyThePoo wrote: »

I muse at the idea of fighting extremism with extremism.

What is that old statement about how good people get to sleep in their beds at night because some men do bad things to bad people.

As some are so fond of dragging Nazis and Nazi Germany into this how do you think Nazi Germany was defeated ?

And like with the Nazis you only defeat islamists by getting down and dirty.

BoatMad wrote: »

The evidence is that the majority of attacks are from native born , or from people resident long before the current refugee crisis

This fact seems to escape you entirely and you seek to transfer the problem onto refugees ( I'm not saying there is no issue here, just that they are not the primary cause of terror attacks to date )

IM not sure what you mean by " limited " , the available settled muslim populations in Europe runs into many millions. Thats one big internment camp .

Care to look at the amount of sex crimes due to these lovely refugees/asylum seekers.
Then add in the odd murder after the odd rape.
Then add in the huge increase in petty crime.

Oh and don't forget the Berlin attacker or Stockholm attackers who were actually asylum seekers.

Then fast forward 20/30 odd years and see how well their offspring have integrated into their new societies.
I find it very hard to believe their kids will integrate when the parents are already refusing to do so.

But you go right ahead believing the arrogant hogwash that you and the rest of the Western luvies/lefties can somehow convert them from their backwards misogynistic beliefs.

boatmad after all your waffle about Nazis I think I have indeed found some commonality here.
You are beginning to remind me of Neville Chamberlain.

You actually believe you can reason with these guys and come to some sort of accommodation with them.
You have continously tried to equate them to the IRA, (that appears to be latest go to in these debates), but you are either too arrogant or something else to notice they don't want anything from you bar complete submission to their beliefs.
Convert to their brand of religion and live a serfs lifestyle or DIE.

Some of us see an alternative more Churchillian option and that is fight for our countries and our way of life, however decrepit you and others may see it.

A Little Pony

dav3 wrote: »

A Little Pony wrote: »

This is why the term is bullsh*t. What is irrational about...

People justify their irrational fear and hatred of things such as snakes and spiders in the same way.

I'm sure most people can sense your anxiety just from your posts.

At the end of the day, it’s still an irrational fear and is viewed as a disorder. A disorder you can seek help with if you so wish.

You don't get much more pathetic than that post. Didn't answer what was irrational about not liking a doctrine like Islam.

C Montgomery Gurns II

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

You live in Holland? Can I ask your opinion on how things are going in Holland?

Whats your own opinion? I be just interested to hear it. Have things gotten out of hand or is it just people trying spin for a agenda?

I have 2 close friends who live in Holland now. I get two conflicting views, but one lives in quiet area and one in Amsterdam.

It's funny that. The three most left wing, Corbynite, Guardianista, liberal working class Brits I know are from Weston Super Mare, rural Scotland and Cumbria. The ones who would tend to swing towards a UKIP/ EDL frame of mind are from places like Luton, London, Manchester, Lancashire and West Yorkshire. One of them is of a mixed South Asian background, one of Jewish descent, and several more of European migrant descent (Irish, Maltese, Greek)

You would almost think the lads in column B, who don't for the most part even know each other, had something in common life experience wise. But no, as my friend from Weston says, they're a bunch of knuckle dragging neanderthal bigots and that's the end of that.

Ronaldinho

C Montgomery Gurns II wrote: »

It's funny that. The three most left wing, Corbynite, Guardianista, liberal working class Brits I know are from Weston Super Mare, rural Scotland and Cumbria. The ones who would tend to swing towards a UKIP/ EDL frame of mind are from places like Luton, London, Manchester, Lancashire and West Yorkshire. One of them is of a mixed South Asian background, one of Jewish descent, and several more of European migrant descent (Irish, Maltese, Greek)

You would almost think the lads in column B, who don't for the most part even know each other, had something in common life experience wise. But no, as my friend from Weston says, they're a bunch of knuckle dragging neanderthal bigots and that's the end of that.

That they are knuckle dragging neanderthal bigots doesn't necessarily mean they they're wrong though.

jmayo

dav3 wrote: »

People justify their irrational fear and hatred of things such as snakes and spiders in the same way.

I'm sure most people can sense your anxiety just from your posts.

At the end of the day, it?s still an irrational fear and is viewed as a disorder. A disorder you can seek help with if you so wish.

Funny you equate muslims with spiders and snakes.

I know for a fact that some spiders and snakes have the capability of killing me.
I know some of them given the right conditions may have a desire to kill me or hurt me.
And yes that does make me wary of some spiders and snakes, most especially the ones from other parts of the world and not native to this part of the world.

Of course to some that is a phobia, but to me it is common sense.
And I think to most people it is common sense otherwise we would all be snake charmers and Steve Irwins.

C Montgomery Gurns II

Ronaldinho wrote: »

That they are knuckle dragging neanderthal bigots doesn't necessarily mean they they're wrong though.

But they aren't bigots. Some of them aren't even white. They aren't even anti Islam per say. They are anti the type of gangsta cum Islamist gimps they come across with unwanted regularity who have no respect for the town. Take Ireland, for example. Most people here are against the planned refugee intake, mainly due to the costs involved, the preferential treatment given to them in allocation of housing, and the perceived risk, given the rape epidemic in Germany and the amount of lone wolf attacks in Europe. But few, if any, of these people, dislike Muslims per se. They have little to nothing against the ones that are already here, primarily because the type of thing that exists in Muslim communities in the UK and on the continent (sexual assaults, youth gangs, council estates full of the unemployable living off the public tit) are pretty much non existent here. Irish bred Muslim children probably have more indigenous friends than they do Muslim. Something that in the likes of Luton and Huddersfield would be pretty much unheard of. Check any Sky News post on FB and have a snoop at the accounts of your average young British Muslim- 9 times out of 10 pretty much everyone on their friend list is someone from within their own community. The simple fact is, throughout Europe there are people growing up in estates filled with almost zero people descended from the state they reside in, going to schools of a similar make up, never mixing with any people of native background. Not long ago I read Zlatan Ibrahimovic's autobiography, and he talks about growing up in a migrant estate in Sweden in the 90's. He said that come world cup time, the kids would either support the team of their father's land or adopt a favorite team based on their skill/ favorite players (much like Irish people do to keep things interesting seeing as we fail to qualify for most of them), you got the impression that nobody even thought to back Sweden. He grew up somewhere where nobody watched Swedish TV, the Swedish team, films, it was all satellite channels and videotapes from the homeland.

inforfun

C Montgomery Gurns II wrote: »

He grew up somewhere where nobody watched Swedish TV, the Swedish team, films, it was all satellite channels and videotapes from the homeland.

Migrant neighbourhood in Zaandam.
98% of The Netherlands has access to cable(tv).

Dublin Pintman

So where's next on the European Tour of Islamic Peace and Tolerance? My bet is Germany, been too long since they had some fun.

greencap

Dublin Pintman wrote: »

So where's next on the European Tour of Islamic Peace and Tolerance? My bet is Germany, been too long since they had some fun.

What do you suggest as a solution.

Beyondgone

greencap wrote: »

What do you suggest as a solution.

Make guns illegal? Everyone says that would work for America?

No...wait...

Dublin Pintman

greencap wrote: »

What do you suggest as a solution.

We hold hands and pray and give more welfare to migrants.

Serious answer: massively restrict immigration, shut down any mosques promoting Sharia law or Islamic fascism, very heavy penalties for anyone involved in terrorism, including losing their European citizenship.

Any hate preachers ****ed off back to where they came from. Oh, you're facing torture, too bad, you had your chance.

Dublin Pintman

Victor wrote: »

My commiserations to those involved.

3,400 people will be killed by traffic today. Might you be engaging in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_white_woman_syndrome

Phew good thing you posted that passive aggressive link! Now I know it's wrong to be angry about murder of an 11 year old Swedish girl because people will die in traffic accidents today. Thank you so much!

Mountainsandh

Dublin Pintman wrote: »

We hold hands and pray and give more welfare to migrants.

Serious answer: massively restrict immigration, shut down any mosques promoting Sharia law or Islamic fascism, very heavy penalties for anyone involved in terrorism, including losing their European citizenship.

Any hate preachers ****ed off back to where they came from. Oh, you're facing torture, too bad, you had your chance.

I don't think there's a need to shut down mosques, just remove the people preaching hate, and follow up closely. I think shutting them down could be needlessly incendiary.

greencap

Dublin Pintman wrote: »

We hold hands and pray and give more welfare to migrants.

Serious answer: massively restrict immigration, shut down any mosques promoting Sharia law or Islamic fascism, very heavy penalties for anyone involved in terrorism, including losing their European citizenship.

Any hate preachers ****ed off back to where they came from. Oh, you're facing torture, too bad, you had your chance.

Well, with exception to the first joke part, which is just cheap and tacky, the second part is quite reasonable.

Notable you're not calling for scrapping the EU. Seems theres hope after all.

Less time doing the 'everyone but me is a candle lighting twitter sissy' act, and more time just coming out with succinct proposals might serve you better.

Dublin Pintman

greencap wrote: »

Well, with exception to the first joke part, which is just cheap and tacky, the second part is quite reasonable.

Notable you're not calling for scrapping the EU. Seems theres hope after all.

Less time doing the 'everyone but me is a candle lighting twitter sissy' act, and more time just coming out with succinct proposals might serve you better.

I'd be quite happy to see the EU go. I don't want to be ruled by bureaucrats in Brussels. And I'm delighted countries in the east are standing up to Merkel and her cronies.

greencap

Dublin Pintman wrote: »

I'd be quite happy to see the EU go. I don't want to be ruled by bureaucrats in Brussels. And I'm delighted countries in the east are standing up to Merkel and her cronies.

lol. knew it was too good to be true.

i wish you were in control for one day.

so you could see the critics sit back on their fat moaning unproductive arses, propose nothing, solve nothing, and complain about everything.