Off Topic Chat. (MOD NOTE post# 3949 and post#5279)

tudderone

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Dude! Its a pot metal /plastic wall hanger you buy in any expensive boutique junk shop.:) Or a varient of such below

Maybe they are planning to go all Highwayman with a council estate horse to plunder the horseless stagecoaches and demand you "Stand and deliver!" on the M7?.Or going to relive Capt Farrell counting his cash over the Kerry mountains?:)

https://collectorsarmoury.com/replica-18th-century-flintlock-non-firing-gun/#

Its far less dangerous than the knives that are in action lately, kids getting into this gang culture stabbing and slashing each other over absolutely nothing.

https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/dublincity-gangs-beckettbridge-video-gardai-20234157

https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/massive-concerns-nearly-1000-knives-20212818

https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/assault-inchicore-dublin-teen-hospital-20159141

Feisar

I know it's an offence to be brandishing those in public but if they happen to be sitting in a house with weed/cash, it's not a criminal act to have them. The Gardaí were as well put a Nerf gun in the pic. It's childish, misleading and possibly a display of incompetence at worst. I'm normally a fan of the boys in blue but this crap is silly.

Grizzly 45

Not on the utter daft level of the UK police tho...Thankfully.

https://professional-troublemaker.com/2018/04/10/u-k-knife-control-gone-wild-stop-frisk-arrives-in-london-to-confiscate-your-pointy-things/

tudderone

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Not on the utter daft level of the UK police tho...Thankfully.

https://professional-troublemaker.com/2018/04/10/u-k-knife-control-gone-wild-stop-frisk-arrives-in-london-to-confiscate-your-pointy-things/

The met police in London showed a bicycle wheel confiscated from someone on the street and the comments on twitter were hilarious.

Uinseann_16

tudderone wrote: »

I hear Biden wants to use an executive order to implement a gun ban after the shootings of the Asian women in the massage parlours in colorado.
Biden wants to ban ar15's and tells people if they want to protect themselves, to buy a shotgun. But it seems more people are killed with shotguns than ar's. So he has it backwards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TlRsHH_qdU

Quite like Colion , he gets some serious abuse from the left for being black though. Getting called an uncle Tom etc
Speaks volumes about the attitude not the left there. Nothing to do with race etc it's just all about power over others

Grizzly 45

Our friend Hunter Biden is in trouble again...
This time with guns and being utterly careless with such. Although from 2018,its rather poignant considering his ol dad wants to ban US citizens from owning such types of guns,and Hunter with his drug use is unfit to own one then and now, under the form 4473 which specifically asks Are you a user of controlled substances? Intresting that it is always the elites that excuse themselves from such laws that they deny the people they control.:rolleyes:

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/03/25/sources-secret-service-inserted-itself-into-case-of-hunter-bidens-gun-477879

Grizzly 45

For those who are following the bumpstock saga in the US
The US courts say they are not machine guns...Was almost predictable this win it was so sloppy a case.

VICTORY: Court Rules a Bump Stock is NOT a Machine Gun

Springfield, VA – Today, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit reversed the district court’s decision, which had denied GOA’s motion for a preliminary injunction on bump stocks. Gun Owners of America is seeking an injunction to prevent ATF from implementing a final rule incorrectly classifying bump stocks as machineguns under federal law.

This case was brought by Gun Owners of America (GOA), Gun Owners Foundation (GOF), the Virginia Citizens Defense League (VCDL), Matt Watkins, Tim Harmsen of the Military Arms Channel, and GOA’s Texas Director, Rachel Malone.

“Today’s court decision is great news and told gun owners what they already knew,” said GOA Senior Vice President Erich Pratt. “We are glad the court applied the statute accurately, and struck down the ATF’s illegal overreach and infringement of gun owners’ rights.”[/I]

Mellor

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Because the president like Trump,shouldn't be commenting on medical matters he is [1] not qualified in [2] has no briefing on or been asked an opinion on.

So he should ever refer to the work of experts in their field unless he is also an expert in said field. The suggestion that you held Trump to the same standard is hilarious. Will you now be following that ethos yourself?

You of all people complaining about double standards is pretty funny. Biden referred to a actual medical research. That is factual.
Trump made up nonsense, and IIRC didn't he, and posters here, claim afterwards that he was making a joke? :rolleyes:

Mellor

tudderone wrote: »

Yes i heard dogs can "sniff" out cancers in the human body, Don't know if there is a clinical medical way of using that ability though.

In a clinical setting, of course not. They are not going to replace blood tests and imagine. However that isn't the intended use. Detection is used for screening large populations. I've no idea how far the research is from implimentation, probably quite dome way. But the idea would be using such dogs to screen 1000s of people a day, who are going about their lives. Similar to how drugs/bomb detection dogs make sweeps.
I can't speak for everyone, but I'm sure many of us have lost a loved one because they had cancer that went undetected for too long.


Pretty sure that certain airports in the US were also using dogs to screen for coronavirus. Impressive if the pooches could do that with accuracy.

Mellor

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

For those who are following the bumpstock saga in the US
The US courts say they are not machine guns...Was almost predictable this win it was so sloppy a case.

Good results for gunowners. Not because most want a bump stock, but because the ATF are the like take a step back and refocus on bump stocks, rather then go after the next item on the list.

Didn't see the details of the case. So not aware of how sloppy it as put together.
I would have thought this wasn't a difficult case to win*. Incompetence on their behalf bodes well.

*Although I'm not across the arguments, so may be off.

tudderone

I am going to be honest, i thought bumpstocks were the stupidist thing i ever seen on a firearm. The sort of thing you would buy because they were cheap, have an hour or two messing around on the range with, and consign it to the back of the cabinet to gather dust. Thats not to say of course that the ATF should be meddling in their ownership of course, they should not.

tudderone

Anyone else looking at the evergreen ship wedged in the Suez canal ? They reckon it going to disrupt global trade costing billions, and surprise surprise, it will lead to an increase in petrol/diesel costs.

How the hell did they manage to crash on a perfectly straight section of canal ?


https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/shipid:5630138/zoom:14

Uinseann_16

tudderone wrote: »

Anyone else looking at the evergreen ship wedged in the Suez canal ? They reckon it going to disrupt global trade costing billions, and surprise surprise, it will lead to an increase in petrol/diesel costs.

How the hell did they manage to crash on a perfectly straight section of canal ?


https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/shipid:5630138/zoom:14

Was wind apparantly that caught it and pushed it into the bank

Mellor

tudderone wrote: »

I am going to be honest, i thought bumpstocks were the stupidist thing i ever seen on a firearm. The sort of thing you would buy because they were cheap, have an hour or two messing around on the range with, and consign it to the back of the cabinet to gather dust. Thats not to say of course that the ATF should be meddling in their ownership of course, they should not.

Similarly, I've no interest in owning one, but would gladly spend a few hours testing one out. I see them as quite a clever piece of engineering. Probably not robust enough for high volume use. But fun for a few hours.

But it does make you question where the line is. What if a manufacture, made a robust bump firing mechanism, integrated to the rifle from day one. What sort of rifle is that? Would likely vary depending on jurisdiction.

tudderone

Uinseann_16 wrote: »

Was wind apparantly that caught it and pushed it into the bank

Sounds a bit like "the dog ate my homework, miss", to me.

tudderone

A journalist took a picture of the captain trying to sneak away from the ship !

Grizzly 45

Mellor wrote: »

So he should ever refer to the work of experts in their field unless he is also an expert in said field. The suggestion that you held Trump to the same standard is hilarious. ]

No I stated that this comment from a senile old man on UNPROVEN medical research who has no expertise ,in the field either,should be treated with the same validity and scorn as the previous guys misquoted statement of drinking bleach...but it wont because Biden is obviously right on everything...

Will you now be following that ethos yourself?

Speak for yourself first...;) And I'll do as I please as I am not beholden to the likes of you.:)

You of all people complaining about double standards is pretty funny. Biden referred to a actual medical research. That is factual.

Rightttt.Must ask next time when I'm in the Oncology dept why they dont have some mutt sniffing everyone for cancer...If it is so simple and proven to work..
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Trump made up nonsense, and IIRC didn't he, and posters here, claim afterwards that he was making a joke? :rolleyes:

Cant say about others and am not going to go research the whole thread again,but do try and quote him properly ? It actually was BIDEN who started the drink bleach idiocy in one of his snarky comments

"And when it comes to COVID-19, after months of doing nothing, other than predicting the virus would disappear, or maybe if you drank bleach you may be okay, Trump has simply given up, Scranton July 9th 20

What Trump said.Please point out anywhere there is a mention of drinking any sort of disinfectant in there?

A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light,* and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. (To Bryan) And I think you said you’re going to test that, too. Sounds interesting, right?
"And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful."



*photodynamic light therapy is also a thing, but about as proven in effectiveness as cancer sniffing dogs.

Grizzly 45

Uinseann_16 wrote: »

Was wind apparantly that caught it and pushed it into the bank

Never know with wind... 16mph winds are capable of knocking over US presidents...:P

Grizzly 45

Good results for gunowners. Not because most want a bump stock, but because the ATF are the like take a step back and refocus on bump stocks, rather then go after the next item on the list.

Didn't see the details of the case. So not aware of how sloppy it as put together.
I would have thought this wasn't a difficult case to win*. Incompetence on their behalf bodes well.

*Although I'm not across the arguments, so may be off.

Sloppy in the sense and broadly speaking ATF does not get to designate what a machine gun is in law without Congressional approval of that definition.
This was an actual bit of feel good legislation and sop pulled by Trump post the Vegas shooting.The Dems wanted a ban on everything [as usual],so this was offered up as they were apparently used in the shooting... ATF declared them "machine guns" and were well in the know that they were on very thin legal ice doing so,and have now fallen thru it.

ATF is actually an organisation in a crisis...And they are trying to justify their budget and existence [again], and have been doing so since Waco.
As there aren't many bootleggers and rum runners about anymore the alcohol side of things is slow, ditto explosives, tobacco ...not much happening there, so firearms are the only thing left, and why do they need billions to harass the law-abiding?

You have now got them arresting and destroying peoples lives who own and produce novelty items like the "lightning link" keycard. A flat bit of metal with an outline of the OLD lightning link that turned 1970s era AR15s into full auto fire rifles or the plastic" Portable wall hanger" that looks like an AR15/full auto link piece and "could be" used as such.

The arm brace/buttstock story,The Tommy Tactical G36,the "dimpled replica Colt XM177 receivers, according to them that's enough "intent to drill the 3rd hole in the receiver for full auto parts" Ditto the "dimpled AK style "receivers and guns.
Claiming intent that if you have a copy of a DIY STEN gun book and a bit of straight exhaust pipe ANYWHERE on your property that's INTENT to build a full auto STEN, even if you don't have, never had, or intended to own a STEN parts kit. This last one was thankfully thrown out as ridiculous in the 1980s, but having the book, parts kit and pipe is still considered "intent to manufacture"

And let's not mention involvement with operation Fast&furious and goon squading gun dealers along the US /Mexican border towns to supply narco gangs with illegal weapons...

In short, they are really looking for work, and ever since the fiascos of Ruby ridge and Waco,the IRS is probably more popular than ATF,and have some justification to exist.

tudderone

:rolleyes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asbE4dNSgig

tudderone

Its not what you know, but who you know in Ireland :rolleyes:.

https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/beacon-hospital-admits-giving-leftover-20261515

BattleCorp

Uinseann_16 wrote: »

Was wind apparantly that caught it and pushed it into the bank

I read that the ship carries about 20,000 containers so they act as a big sail to catch the wind. And once something that size starts moving it's very hard to stop it.

Grizzly 45

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEXcRaFv1-M
So the big announcement is...FUN is going to the EU court to challenge this,and any and all support is welcome from individuals and organisations....Stay tuned.

tudderone

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEXcRaFv1-M
So the big announcement is...FUN is going to the EU court to challenge this,and any and all support is welcome from individuals and organisations....Stay tuned.

Thanks for that Grizz.

About the EU commission "They have their agenda and facts do not matter", also "They want to make shooting so expensive as to be impractical".

There it is in a nut shell. This is their way of banning shooting after terrorist attacks, via the backdoor. :rolleyes:.

Farage was right when he said the chilling thing about the eu, apart from being undemocratic, was if they failed in getting what they want, they would regroup and get what they want another way. Completely unscrupulous and ruthless :mad:.

tonysopprano

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEXcRaFv1-M
So the big announcement is...FUN is going to the EU court to challenge this,and any and all support is welcome from individuals and organisations....Stay tuned.

Dont take this wrong Griz, but to look up what has just happened on youtube, you have to input

Fun announcement, or if you want the irish version, look up funi announcement.

Thought it was really funny

Cass

tudderone wrote: »

A journalist took a picture of the captain trying to sneak away from the ship !

Actual video of them turning the ship:

Grizzly 45

tudderone wrote: »

Farage was right when he said the chilling thing about the eu, apart from being undemocratic, was if they failed in getting what they want, they would regroup and get what they want another way. Completely unscrupulous and ruthless :mad.

Hardly surprising when you have an organisation that was;
Conceived by Communists, and Nazism, Brought into life by Ex Nazis in the 1950s,has been steadily eroding personal and national identities into a grey drab mass of "Europeans" run by a disgusting mix of Socialism and Fascism and is now virtually the "Peoples Republic of China lite".
[No doubt they are looking at social scoring along with your Vax passport]

So of course they don't want us proles armed and have stated so,if you read the opening paragraphs of the EU assault rifle ban,[along with the UN and WHO].
Guess some of us,[esp folks like Tomaz who lived with a Communist jackboot on his neck growing up] are not going to roll over for our EU Soviet overlords to kick about that easily .

Grizzly 45

Cass wrote: »

Actual video of them turning the ship:

9.5 BILLION Euros per day being lost because of this in trade.:eek::eek:

tudderone

civdef

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Hardly surprising when you have an organisation that was;
Conceived by Communists, and Nazism, Brought into life by Ex Nazis in the 1950s,has been steadily eroding personal and national identities into a grey drab mass of "Europeans" run by a disgusting mix of Socialism and Fascism and is now virtually the "Peoples Republic of China lite".
[No doubt they are looking at social scoring along with your Vax passport]

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