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It seems if you have a youtube channel and the police do not like some of the comments your videos receive, they can deem you to be an extremist, in the UK anyway.
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Not in the least bit surprised in Orwell's 1984 Britan these days.
The place is becoming more and more of a kip run by thought police more concerned about policing FB and YT for offensive "rascist" comments from white Christian hetero males, than dealing with machete gangs on scooters in London[and not offending a certain "religion of peace" who advocate every sort of despicable crime against "unbelievers".
Wouldnt be surprised if this sht starts over here soon as well.:mad:"If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."
Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "
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I believe the latest thing is the police turning up mob-handed (3,or 4) to the doors of licence holders and demanding to inspect their security set-ups.
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"Big Brother" is always watching :eek:0
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https://pjmedia.com/trending/uk-police-shut-down-popular-gun-channel-on-youtube-branding-it-a-forum-of-extremism/
It seems the police in the Uk judged Callum's channel to be extremist, because he spoke about gunlaws and rights over there. Also the comments on his videos were judged to be extremist. How can someone be punished for what someone else wrote ?0 -
You cannot be responsible for what others write, but perhaps the Police think that you should Moderate or remove extreme comments ( however you judge that).
The only thing I ever saw on his channel that raised an eyebrow was "What's in your gun safe" a series he planned whereby fans would show their safe's contents.
Only one video of this went online, and I wonder if the chap involved got any reaction from the Police?0 -
https://pjmedia.com/trending/uk-police-shut-down-popular-gun-channel-on-youtube-branding-it-a-forum-of-extremism/
It seems the police in the Uk judged Callum's channel to be extremist because he spoke about gun laws and rights over there. Also, the comments on his videos were judged to be extremist. How can someone be punished for what someone else wrote?
Swear Callum was in a re-education centre the way he is talking on that video. This is exactly what a person who has been re-educated in a Gulag sounds like.:eek::eek:
In this day and age of the permanently offended and the UK thought police who knows? Only that the UK is turning into a depressing Orwellian state and kip of a place that is losing all its values it once held dear.Like freedom of thought, expression,free speech and continuous pandering and appeasement of a certain religion, who despises all of the values of what the UK once stood for.:(:(
Sad to see a nation that 120 years ago gave its subjects more rights and privilidges than the USA,turn into the very type of state our grandparents fought and died to prevent in both Nazi and Soviet oppression taking over.:("If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."
Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "
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Grizzly 45 wrote: »Swear Callum was in a re-education centre the way he is talking on that video. This is exactly what a person who has been re-educated in a Gulag sounds like.:eek::eek:
In this day and age of the permanently offended and the UK thought police who knows? Only that the UK is turning into a depressing Orwellian state and kip of a place that is losing all its values it once held dear.Like freedom of thought, expression,free speech and continuous pandering and appeasement of a certain religion, who despises all of the values of what the UK once stood for.:(:(
Sad to see a nation that 120 years ago gave its subjects more rights and privilidges than the USA,turn into the very type of state our grandparents fought and died to prevent in both Nazi and Soviet oppression taking over.:(
Its going exactly the same way here though Grizz, and we'll be there very shortly. As for callum being scared, i don't blame him, if he is tagged as an extremist, all sorts of madness can follow, having your bank accounts frozen, not being able to work in certain places, as well as the total loss of his sport.
I have to say this has really surprised me as his channel was one of the most inoffensive and fun channels there was, like hickok45 or bloke on the range, it was fun, not rkba etc.0 -
If you are going to be tagged as an extremist, you might as well act as one. He might as well face it, his guns are gone under that UK police dictatorship.
"If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."
Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "
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My thoughts on separating out security to a dedicated organisation revolve around professionalism: I will concede that senior Gardai increasingly have third level educations (I think Noirin O'S had three degrees), but the force lacks an officer corps, like the defence forces.
We've had that for far too long and it's why we have the ridiculous laws we have now.Putin is some operator, he's loving the rise of the far right in the West - the divisions (which I suspect he is stoking, even though he didn't start them) between Republicans and Dems in the US and between Visregard/EU must give him a warm fuzzy feeling as he goes to sleep at night.
The far left worries me more. There has been calls in the US this week by Senators and Congressmen on the left to actively seek out President Trump supporters/staff and harass/attack them. It's open sedition. Italy refusing the latest boat load of soldier age militants refugees is the latest in a quickening attitude of people being fed up. When so many problems exist in our countries that are being ignored or not tended to people are tired of being told they must show compassion and give aid to others. The "tolerant" attitude of the left includes violence, harassment, attacks, assassinations, mass shootings, and then public denouncement of anyone that dare say such things should be stopped.
Anyway, i think the rest of this debate is better suited in the off topic thread.
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The far right have a habit of using all the same tactics Cass. The age old battle right vs left. Neither do sports shooters any favours.0
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I won't insult anyone's intelligence by trying to deny or defend that, but as of now, or the last few years, it's the far left. Antifa, BLM, gender wars, sedition, mass shootings, assassinations, riots, uncontrolled immigration, etc. all committed by the left under the guise of defending freedoms.
People have never had such liberties, freedoms, etc. (talking mostly about "developed countries") yet they protest as though they have never had it so bad. Most don't know what it was to have it bad, but public opinion is being forced in a direction most are not willing or able to comprehend and at such a speed as to give no time for people to adapt. Then anyone not willing to swallow the "party line" is labelled as fascist, racist, or as per Godwin's law, Nazi.Forum Charter - Useful Information - Photo thread: Hardware - Ranges by County - Hunting Laws/Important threads - Upcoming Events - RFDs by County
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I wouldn't disagree with what you've said but I will add no matter whether right or left are in ascendancy..............the rich & elite will still be the powerful0
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Yup.
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Antifa, BLM, gender wars, sedition, mass shootings, assassinations, riots, uncontrolled immigration, etc. all committed by the left under the guise of defending freedoms.
As to the whole "let them drown" attitude that Italy's taking with refugees, they didn't have that attitude in 1946 when they were getting the equivalent of €13.5 billion pumped into them from abroad in aid because they were effectively refugees in their own country after a lot of WW2 had just rolled through the place.
What's Italian for "I'm alright Jack"? Apparently it's electing the Italian version of Donald Trump so he can call for letting the refugees drown while fleeing a warzone that Italy is providing logistical support for.
I mean, it's not as catchy as the UK showtunes version but it results in more drowned toddlers so I guess it has that going for it.0 -
It's simple. Mass immigration into the EU is not sustainable. A lot of these immigrants are economic migrants not refugees. The legitimate refugees should be helped by the countries wrecking their countries!
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Walter Mittys Brother wrote: »It's simple. Mass immigration into the EU is not sustainable. A lot of these immigrants are economic migrants not refugees.0
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So, leaving aside the small point that BLM have stats on their side (the US police shooting more people per annum than the last 20 years of mass shootings combined and it being skewed on racial lines so far past the point of statistical significance.....
Blacks make up 14% of the population of the US. Of that some 21 million are male so that is 7% of the total population. They are responsible for 62% of robberies, 57% of the total murders, and 45% of assaults (the number is actually less than 7% as its not all black men involved).
Given the disproportionately high rate of criminal offences committed by this low demographic the death rate will be higher.
If BLM were serious about black deaths they would look at everything and not just the 150 - 200 justified or 16 - 20 "unarmed" cases each year. They would also not have riots and protests that attack whites indiscriminately, and call for the murder of ALL police.
If they were serious they could look at cities like Chicago. There have been an average of 3,500 shootings and 650 deaths per year. In 2016 this number spiked to 4,500 shot. Not a word from them. When each weekend sees an average of 50 shooting with a spike of 84 not 2 months ago, and 9 fatalities there are bigger issues than saying "its the cops".
A black man is 87% more likely to be shot by another black man, but nobody dares to take on that topic because it's easier to cry racist and when you have Barry Obama stoking the fires of racial divides and inviting them into the White House they get a sense of moral superiority which means they don't have to explain themselves or their lack of effort in the real causes of such high death rates like why young black men turn to crime, community standards, community policing, outreach programs, ending gangs, etc.
Instead they are demanding reparations, that WHITES give up their houses to blacks and other fantasies that come from a generation that wants everything handed to them instead of working for it.
As for Antifa.............. any thoughts?that it's just a bad joke saying it's not happening), there's a small issue there with the mass shootings and assassinations because I can't think of many that were done by anyone we'd be able to call "far left" with a straight face.As to the whole "let them drown" attitude that Italy's taking with refugees, they didn't have that attitude in 1946 when they were getting the equivalent of €13.5 billion pumped into them from abroad in aid because they were effectively refugees in their own country after a lot of WW2 had just rolled through the place.
The EU made a comprehensive decision to allow uncontrolled, unrestricted immigration. Merkel is reaping the rewards of her decision at the moment with the chance she'll loose her position because of it. Austrai, Italy, Hungary, Poland, and of course Brexit all show people have had enough of immigrants being raised above the level of citizens of a country.
Only this week it was announced that 25 African families would be brought into Ireland, given a 6 week induction course as some facility, granted citizenship, a handout of €5,000, a house to live in, and full employment benefits.
There are people on streets i their thousands. Irish citizens, tax paying citizens, who through trouble or strife (or both) have found themselves at rock bottom. Hell one lady is disabled, and sleeps in her wheelchair with a sleeping bag wrapped around her, and she cannot get what these immigrant families are going to get.
The problem of such immigration policies is resentment from the natural citizens of a country that have been blocked, hindered, refused and turned away at every stage by their own Government when they seek aid, only to see someone who never contributed to this country be brought in and handed everything. That resentment festers and grows and as said above you see more and more countries now turning their back on such policies by electing right wing Governments that will change and stop this.What's Italian for "I'm alright Jack"?Apparently it's electing the Italian version of Donald Trump so he can call for letting the refugees drown while fleeing a warzone that Italy is providing logistical support for.
The policies in were in place before he became president. Barry Obama deported more people than any president before him (over 2.7 million people) yet not a word from the left about it. The fake pictures of prison buses for toddlers that were accredited to Trump were actually from Obama days.
Obama's DACA program was an attempt to introduce the dreamer act via executive authority and was rescinded. California and other leftist states have introduced their own and now they are reaping the rewards of helping ILLEGAL immigrants over their own citizens.
People can come to a country and work, but do it legally. However more and more its a case of them coming illegally and receiving not only financial but monetary support against the will of the people and sometimes the rule of law.I mean, it's not as catchy as the UK showtunes version but it results in more drowned toddlers so I guess it has that going for it.
The lies and bias of the leftist media was once again highlighted only this week by Time magazine. No one is forcing people to cross illegally. They know the risks associated with it, but choose to do this rather than go a centre or consul where they can start the process legally.Forum Charter - Useful Information - Photo thread: Hardware - Ranges by County - Hunting Laws/Important threads - Upcoming Events - RFDs by County
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Cass, you nailed it :cool:
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Walter Mittys Brother wrote: »How can you tell? Do they have passports etc?
Because they said that's who they're complaining about. Also, "refugee" and "economic migrant" are handled very differently at the border for decent reasons, and the rules about the latter preclude the guy floating in a dingy in the middle of the med from claiming that status.
Seriously, the "mistrust the refugees" argument literally is the Gardai's argument that we are all criminals who've not been caught yet because we have guns, just applied to people fleeing a war zone.0 -
Blacks make up 14% of the population of the US. Of that some 21 million are male so that is 7% of the total population. They are responsible for 62% of robberies, 57% of the total murders, and 45% of assaults (the number is actually less than 7% as its not all black men involved).
We've all seen the video footage of black suspects doing absolutely nothing wrong, complying with the officers involved and then being murdered on camera. Hands empty and on display, complying with instructions, doing nothing - hell, even lying down on the ground with hands in the air (and in that case it was a nurse caring for a guy with mental health issues). We've seen videos of police literally start shooting out the windscreen of their car before stopping. And when you look at things like how much training those police get (the average is around 12 weeks), how little data is shared between forces over officer's track records (nearly none which several police departments say is a causal factor in these things because someone can be involved in a shooting, be found at fault, get fired, go to another state and join their police force and they'll no nothing of this), and the amount of military hardware they're being issued, it's not exactly surprising this goes on.As for Antifa.............. any thoughts?
Unless you class Mossad as lefties...Who said the far left, i said the left, the Dems, the Donkeys, the "progressives", the "liberals".The EU made a comprehensive decision to allow uncontrolled, unrestricted immigration.Only this week it was announced that 25 African families would be brought into Ireland, given a 6 week induction course as some facility, granted citizenship, a handout of €5,000, a house to live in, and full employment benefits.There are people on streets i their thousands.
And y'all might remember, at some point we are going to be called to answer for things like the direct provision system to our kids in the same way we called the catholic church to answer for Ferns, and we won't have the easy out they got. We're running what are basically concentration camps for refugees right now. It's beyond a disgrace - 30C and we're selling them drinking water. We are not so damn poor we need to do that, but someone got a nice little earner of a contract to run the place, and we have a pattern of going along with those kinds of things - it's what we did with the laundries.That resentment festers and grows
So long as people don't like refugees, direct provision continues and people make a small mint off the taxpayer. So a few quid bunged to the tabloids to call them migrants when they're not, to spread around fake stories about huge grants and free houses and citizenship and how them durty foreigners are getting stuff we're not? That few quid pays off in spades for the lads with the contracts.I'm sick of this leftist bias about President Trump.
You have guys like John McCain voting against him for feck's sakes, and he's hardly a long-haired commie hippie tree-hugger.The lies and bias of the leftist media was once again highlighted only this week by Time magazine. No one is forcing people to cross illegally. They know the risks associated with it, but choose to do this rather than go a centre or consul where they can start the process legally.0 -
None of which actually matter when you measure what percentage of black suspects are shot and killed versus what percentage of white suspects are.
Blacks commit a huge percentage of crime compared to their demographic size yet you and the left think it's racist when a larger than normal amount of blacks are shot during the proceeds of these crimes? :rolleyes:We've all seen the video footage of black suspects doing absolutely nothing wrongWell, they originated in London when Jews decided that Mosley's meetings needed to be broken up and nobody else was going to do it, so they're not exactly newfangled or left-wing.
Unless you class Mossad as lefties...Come on. The Democrats are as left wing as Thatcher.No, they absolutely did not. They made a decision to shelter refugees which is not the same thing.
They have been working on a migration agenda since 1999 and the influx of migrants from 2015 has sparked a reinvigoration of this agenda. Led by Jean Claude-Drunkard, Merkel and the likes, and their plan of allowing millions and millions of people in with little to no security checks or scrutiny.They're refugees and we're giving them shelter not citizenship.They will be first brought to an induction centre such as at Ballaghadereen for six weeks before they are allocated full citizenship of Ireland, payment of up to 5000 Euro each under Emergency Needs, as well as the full dole.And y'all might remember, at some point we are going to be called to answer for things like the direct provision system to our kids in the same way we called the catholic church to answer for Ferns, and we won't have the easy out they got.
As for this :We're running what are basically concentration camps for refugees right now.It grows because it's fed by people who profit off it.
Secondly don't confuse me now, or ever, with some mullet wearing sh*t kicker going around mumbling "they took our jobs". I don't hate them for who they are, what they've done, where they're from or where they're going.
In short i'm fed up of the double standards and media manipulation of these stories. If a country decides it doesn't want to take in refugees, migrants, whatever, they should be free to refuse and not demonized because of it. The "won't someone think of the children" excuse does not justify the perceptions and actions that such mass immigration causes.I'm not sure it's leftist or rightist bias when half his own party are walking out in protest.And yes, quite a lot of the daft **** is older than he is (the wall, their policy towards illegal immigration, and a few others), but I don't remember any administration being this joyously cruel and petty about everything.You might not like Clinton but did he ever go on and on about being interviewed by Fox?Did Bush ever talk about his own party members the way Trump does?Did Bush Sr ever go after the press the way Trump has?
Even so called fact checking sites like Snopes are biased. When you check on the "baby bus" they claim it as true, but don't elaborate that it was done under Obamas tenure. You can figure out quite quickly it was, but they never mention it or him.This isn't some lefty thing, this guy is something nastier than anyone's seen before, it's why there's opposition to him from both parties.You have guys like John McCain voting against him for feck's sakes, and he's hardly a long-haired commie hippie tree-hugger.
McCain went against Trump and his party to vote against repealing Obamacare [twice] even though he canvassed on repealing it and was a strong critic of it since it's creation. Trump and McCain have had a long feud with both exchanging petty quips at each other.You missed the bit where they're being murdered on the other side of the border because of things started on the US side.Not to mention that there are documented cases of people doing everything completely legally and still being treated as illegals.And part of that comes down to stupid technical stuff that indicates that nobody on the US side is interested in having legal migration - ICE literally disabled the part of their computer system that gave an okay when doing risk assessments of migrants. Before the change, the system either said "probably fine" or "probably criminal" and they literally turned off the first option. https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-immigration-court/
Again he [Obama] done much worse than Trump or any other President and he is pardoned the scrutiny Trump is receiving for continuing that trend.Forum Charter - Useful Information - Photo thread: Hardware - Ranges by County - Hunting Laws/Important threads - Upcoming Events - RFDs by County
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So the facts don't matter.
I mean, it's like the difference between there being 1700 more pistols licenced in Ireland today than in 1972 and there being a lower pistol ownership rate in Ireland today than in 1972. Both are true. But you can't compare the numbers directly because they're measuring different things.
In this case, if you see a thousand suspects of race A being arrested and a hundred of race B; but 70% of those in race A get shot during the arrest and 7% of race B; you have to ask a question or two because those two percentages should not be that far apart.No. Not saying itdoesn't happen or that every shooting is justified but according to stats its not even among the top 20 of "most deadly" causes of black deaths.Well deflected, but in case you need a refresher i'm talking about these f**kwits
I don't think we're required to pick a side, but if you held me to the flame on it, I suspect I'd come down on the side that isn't literally the American Nazi Party.If you want to be pedantic then i'll rephrase it. The "left" as the democratic party and their ilk are commonly referred to.Yes they did, and no it's not.
They have been working on a migration agenda since 1999 and the influx of migrants from 2015 has sparked a reinvigoration of this agenda. Led by Jean Claude-Drunkard, Merkel and the likes, and their plan of allowing millions and millions of people in with little to no security checks or scrutiny.As per the article:
http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/moving_country/asylum_seekers_and_refugees/the_asylum_process_in_ireland/rights_and_obligations_of_asylum_seekers_in_ireland.htmlYou are taking the piss if you think rampant child sexual abuse is even close to what "migrants" are getting in terms of support and aid.With "good ould Catholic ireland" you also have institutional failures as well as corruption from within the Government and GardaA trend that continues today, with our own people.
Mind you, if the bastards can keep everyone at each other's throats, we never look at it that way and they get to go buy their own fecking islands...That is the same sick and twisted logic i see spouted in the states about the detention centres for ILLEGALS. How can anyone trivialize the death and depravity that was seen in the concentration camps as comparable to holding centres for criminals and illegals?Secondly don't confuse me now, or ever, with some mullet wearing sh*t kicker going around mumbling "they took our jobs".If a country decides it doesn't want to take in refugees, migrants, whatever, they should be free to refuse and not demonized because of it.
I mean, as solutions go, it's a ****ty one, with the sole redeeming feature that it has so far worked slightly better than anything we've tried in the last two thousand years or so.
Which isn't as big as even that offhanded comment makes out, but it's big enough that the whole free-migration-within-the-EU thing is not just some idea on paper for a lot of people, it's a Big Thing to them.
As to refugees, we kindof have international law on that point which says, more or less, "don't be that country, m'kay?". So saying "no, we're not taking them, we'll machine-gun them if they try to get in here", well, you have to be Turkey for that and who the hell wants to live there?Walking out of what?Granted President Trump can be a douche at times, but the resistance he has faced since becoming President has never been seen by any other.Clinton, Obama, even Killary called for walls and strengthening of borders and when Trump tries it they call him a racist.However i fail to see the "joy" you say he gets from this. Show me what you mean.Might want to pick someone else as your poster boy for etiquette.if someone with no political experience can come in and solve some problems that "seasoned" politicians have been saying for decades cannot be fixed easily or at all, then they'll be shown up as the frauds they are.
Pretty huge IF there though, given that so far, he's not managed to do any such thing.Support your argument with facts. What has he done that is nastier than anything before him?Doing it legally or have completed the process and are legal? Unless its the latter they are still illegal and that is still a crime.
Grandmother and last surviving granddaughter flee after the parents and siblings were murdered by gangs, they take the granddaughter and send her off to a tender age shelter, and refuse to acknowledge the grandmother has custody despite documentation.
So now the grandmother is in one holding camp and the granddaughter is in one of the child holding camps in Texas, only they're not sure exactly where.
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These are getting too long. I'm going to start shortening them to single words or just emojis shortly...... the point is that the absolute figures can't be directly compared to the percentages because they're not mathematically the same.
Black men are more involved in violent crimes and murder. That is not racist its a simple fact. As i said before if 7% of the population is responsible for 57% of the murders then you cannot blame the stats for the higher proportion of shootings among those involved in those crimes.
Muslim men of Asian decent in the UK are responsible for 84% of rape/grooming gangs. Less than 5% of the total population responsible for 84% of gang rapes. Is this racist because whites are not raping as much? FFS, the facts are facts, and the % is the %. No amount of side stepping will diminish the truth of it.Um.
Rank | Cause | Percentage
1) | Heart disease | 23.9
2) | Cancer | 21.4
3) | Unintentional injuries | 6.5
4) | Homicide | 4.9 ** Not Police **
5) | Stroke | 4.2
6) | Diabetes | 3.1
7) | Chronic lower respiratory diseases | 4.9
8) | Alzheimer’s disease | 2.5
9) | Influenza and pneumonia | 2.0
10) | Chronic liver disease| 1.9I'd probably use the same word, but I notice they've not killed anyone and the people they're protesting have.
If they protested extremist groups then so be it, but they protest anything they don't agree with. From free speech, to Trump supporters, to anything resembling conservative/traditional values and of course they're violent as f**k. They are described as such by all sources:They engage in violent protest tactics, which has included property damage and physical violence. They tend to be anti-capitalist and they are predominantly far-left and militant left.Short for militant leftists, or occasionally far leftists and radical leftists, often used as a generalization of people who commit to acts of violence against those on the Right side of the political spectrumI don't think we're required to pick a side, but if you held me to the flame on it, I suspect I'd come down on the side that isn't literally the American Nazi Party.It's not that pedantic - they think a liberal policy is letting everyone buy health insurance. And they're happy to live with child marriage and child labour within their own borders. And a dozen other things we'd see as being up there with the Penal Laws and Cromwell if you tried imposing them on us today. The Dems are just not a shining light leading towards a nicer world.They literally can't do that legally; and the people we're talking about are refugees fleeing Assad, and handled under a different body of law. And frankly, we (meaning the EU) backed Assad so we'd have someone fighting ISIS as a buffer zone. The real world is ****ty and so on, okay, that's another argument; but we don't get to do that and then treat refugees fleeing sarin gas dropped by the guy we backed as if the refugees were nothing to do with us at all.
So tell me again how the EU has nothing to do with this? How the EU are not responsible for the mass influx of refugees/migrants/any other PC name?
By the way don't try to pass the EU off as all countries having equal say, it doesn't happen except in the Unicorn and Rainbow world that those in la-la land live in.I don't know what article you're citing, but it's flat-out wrong
Try rationalize that to the people with "calm down, i'll explain the financing behind it" will not mean spit.Funnily enough, I'm not. It's not even an analogy : http://www.thejournal.ie/abuse-is-reported-at-direct-provision-centres-across-ireland-1023749-Aug2013/
Leads back to what i said above about grooming gangs in the UK as well as other stories of a similar nature by other "refugees" in other countries such as this and this.First off, direct provision is for refugees. They're not criminals, they're not illegals, .................So they literally can't, not legally. Within the EU, free migration from EU state to EU state is one of the few principles the continent will literally die on ..............Pretty sure the latter is a result of the former; and the former is not exactly new; ............. it's pretty much a recipe for getting everyone pissed off at you.
Some might have been pissed off at him, but some are outright against him simply because he won, and Killary didn't. Calls for sedition, attacks on Trump's staff, his supporters, calls for a recession so just so Trump fails, etc. The madness is out of hand and the TDS is strong with most of them.Well, none of them led off with "mexicans are all rapists" to be fair...Trump wrote:When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.Seriously, read his twitter feed for a day, tell me you don't see someone delighting in being nasty.Didn't call him a poster boy for anything, just said he wasn't as bad as Trump and neither has anyone else been since the late 1700s and those guys were literally killing each other in duels.- Only the second President in history to be impeached, but yeah he was delight. :rolleyes:
- He doubled the federal prison population by making crack cocaine a more serious offense than powder cocaine. Crack cocaine was much cheaper and largely used by Blacks.
- He signed in NAFTA.
- He allowed logging in national forests.
- He was hesitant to take action to stop a genocide in Rwanda. While he failed to act, more than half a million Tutsis were murdered.
- He gave China Most Favored Nation (MFN) status despite their terrible human rights record
- He granted North Korea concessions in exchange for a promise to discontinue their nuclear weapons program
- He failed to deal with the threat of Osama bin Laden as he was too distracted by scandals & impeachment to take action against Al Qaeda. We all know how that ended.
Indeed.
Pretty huge IF there though, given that so far, he's not managed to do any such thing.- 12 appellate court judges (a first for any President in his first year)
- A supreme court justice and another in the coming months.
- Tax reform/improved economy
- Repealing individual mandate from obamacare
- Travel ban
- Defeating ISIS
- Recognition of Jerusalem something every other president refused to to address even though it was law since 1996
Oh come on, you don't even have to work hard on that one.......... they take the granddaughter and send her off to a tender age shelter, and refuse to acknowledge the grandmother has custody despite documentation.
All that is moot. Her claim is being examined and will be ruled on when it's ruled on. those "hopping" the fence have no such protections, and you don't seriously expect any country to allow illegal immigrants unchecked freedoms while their case is being reviewed?Forum Charter - Useful Information - Photo thread: Hardware - Ranges by County - Hunting Laws/Important threads - Upcoming Events - RFDs by County
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Because they said that's who they're complaining about. Also, "refugee" and "economic migrant" are handled very differently at the border for decent reasons, and the rules about the latter preclude the guy floating in a dingy in the middle of the med from claiming that status.Seriously, the "mistrust the refugees" argument literally is the Gardai's argument that we are all criminals who've not been caught yet because we have guns, just applied to people fleeing a war zone.
Odd that there arent very many,if at all women and kids with these refugees. They seem to be all young or middle-aged men,of a certain religion,and even more odd that as there are Christians in that conflict zone there are few if any of those with them. Even odder enough have lost everything including ALL documentation,but have kept their cell phones.Now a suspicious mind might have a few questions on those points...
Also, could anyone inform me,I must have missed this one..What oppression or civil war is going on in Jamaica or Ghana?"If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."
Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "
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Well, they originated in London when Jews decided that Mosley's meetings needed to be broken up and nobody else was going to do it, so they're not exactly newfangled or left-wing.
Actually NO! They came about in the 1930s as an off shoot of Communism in Berlin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifaschistische_Aktion
Ironic that they call everyone Nazis as these Mom spare room dwelling thugs,[and that's not hyperbole BTW a survey done in Berlin a few years ago has over 75% of ANTIFA males still living at home with their unmarried/divorced mothers.] Use the same tactics as the brownshirts but in the name of Communism.Either way, they wouldn't know a genuine Nazi if he planted a jackboot up their black-clad asses.Unless you class Mossad as lefties..."If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."
Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "
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Some of his greatest hits:
Only the second President in history to be impeached, but yeah he was delight.
He doubled the federal prison population by making crack cocaine a more serious offense than powder cocaine. Crack cocaine was much cheaper and largely used by Blacks.
He signed in NAFTA.
He allowed logging in national forests.
He was hesitant to take action to stop a genocide in Rwanda. While he failed to act, more than half a million Tutsis were murdered.
He gave China Most Favored Nation (MFN) status despite their terrible human rights record
He granted North Korea concessions in exchange for a promise to discontinue their nuclear weapons program
He failed to deal with the threat of Osama bin Laden as he was too distracted by scandals & impeachment to take action against Al Qaeda. We all know how that ended.
That's very short list Cass.
You can add at least 100 more things he did in conjunction with his witch of a wife. Going back all the way to his governorship on Arkanshaw and involvement in the Mena airport and Drug runners like Barry Seal and the "Dixie Mafia"[The film American made is based on those times]
We could add.
Whitewater,
Furnituregate[Nicking 300k worth of furniture out of the White House]
Travelgate,
Filegate
Troopergate
Vince Foster.
Paula Jones,
Monica Lewinsky.
Gennifer Flowers
Sydney Blumenthal
Juniata Brodderick
The fuk up of BlackHawk Down..Billy was too busy on the golf course to order armour out to rescue the crewmen.
Waco,Ruby Ridge.in not reigning in that hag Janet Reno and her control of both ATFE and FBI on both occasions."If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."
Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "
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Looks like immigration is going to be the death of the EUSSR. Seehofer looks likely to walk away from Mama Merkel, and even if he does not, that deal done last week is as much use as a chocolate teapot and will last just as long. Whoever thought we would live to see the return of the far right in Germany ? But the open borders lunacy looks likely to be the straw that broke the camels back.
As to why the bile against Trump, simple, the big money on wall street was backing aged wharf whore Hilary Clinton. She was also the one who pushed Hussain Obama to rid libya of Gadafi, he did not want to initially, but she wanted it as it was a major plus for her in her own election attempt. Gadafi said himself that libya was the "cork in the bottle", in other words, without him sub saharan africa would rush towards europe. He was right.
The Irish are not innocent in all this, it was our own FG backer Peter sutherland who was agitating the eu to allow open borders. It was ok for him, he was coming towards the end of his money grubbing life, everyone else has to put up with the consequences. Our cut price trudeau wannabe veruca salts has taken to this idea with gusto.
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