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tudderone

yubabill wrote: »

By now, you've probably all heard that Pfizer have developed an effective vaccine for Covid-19.

I'm not a vaccine expert, but I have personally dealt with a senior Pfizer executive in charge of innovation in recent years and my experience is that he is someone of the highest integrity and ability.

That's all I know FWIW.

How much will it cost though ? 50 quid a pop ? 100 ? 1000 ?

Rows Grower

Less than 50 I'd say.

Munsterlad102

Who knows, our free healthare system is so good that you have to pay for it

tudderone

Munsterlad102 wrote: »

Who knows, our free healthare system is so good that you have to pay for it

I know of more than one OAP, who went for treatment that wasn't covered by the medical card, paid for it out of their own pocket, and then received letters from social welfare saying what they had done isn't covered. The doctors were taking their money AND trying to claim off the medical card on the QT.

Munsterlad102

tudderone wrote: »

I know of more than one OAP, who went for treatment that wasn't covered by the medical card, paid for it out of their own pocket, and then received letters from social welfare saying what they had done isn't covered. The doctors were taking their money AND trying to claim off the medical card on the QT.

Yeah, my grandparents used to have to pay for just about everything even with medical cards and health insurance. Its disgraceful how 25% of the budget goes to healthcare thats sh*te and doesn't even cover the elderly.

Grizzly 45

BattleCorp wrote: »

High Viz gear while deer shooting. :pac::pac::pac:


I think you are right. Time to write off Coillte.

Won't make a damn bit of difference to the Deer:eek:. You can go out in Neon pink and dayglo rave colours and the deer won't see you, as they can't pick up that colour spectrum. They CAN, however, see very well the colour of your blue jeans as it apparently shows up as solid black in their vision. ...Just sayin.:P

Grizzly 45

yubabill wrote: »

By now, you've probably all heard that Pfizer have developed an effective vaccine for Covid-19.

I'm not a vaccine expert, but I have personally dealt with a senior Pfizer executive in charge of innovation in recent years and my experience is that he is someone of the highest integrity and ability.

That's all I know FWIW.

Welll...In the good tradition of all "mad scientists" and apocalypse films...

All the Pfizer execs from the president , the board, onwards, should be the first to line up for the free shots of their own new wonder drug, then their families, and then test them out with some Covid plague.
If they aren't dead within a month or zombies,or puddles of toxic goo on the lab floors,or have developed superpowers...Well then I guess it is safe enough for the rest of us.:D:D
Their chance to become pioneering medical greats. After all, Edward Jenner tested his smallpox cure out on his own son,and Louis Pasteur tested his own theory out on himself.:P:P

tudderone

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Welll...In the good tradition of all "mad scientists" and apocalypse films...

All the Pfizer execs from the president , the board, onwards, should be the first to line up for the free shots of their own new wonder drug, then their families, and then test them out with some Covid plague.
If they aren't dead within a month or zombies,or puddles of toxic goo on the lab floors,or have developed superpowers...Well then I guess it is safe enough for the rest of us.:D:D
Their chance to become pioneering medical greats. After all, Edward Jenner tested his smallpox cure out on his own son,and Louis Pasteur tested his own theory out on himself.:P:P

I wonder will it work with the latest strain, the one involving the mink ?

yubabill

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Welll...In the good tradition of all "mad scientists" and apocalypse films...

All the Pfizer execs from the president , the board, onwards, should be the first to line up for the free shots of their own new wonder drug, then their families, and then test them out with some Covid plague.
If they aren't dead within a month or zombies,or puddles of toxic goo on the lab floors,or have developed superpowers...Well then I guess it is safe enough for the rest of us.:D:D
Their chance to become pioneering medical greats. After all, Edward Jenner tested his smallpox cure out on his own son,and Louis Pasteur tested his own theory out on himself.:P:P

This still goes on, I have seen it personally. One archetypal "mad scientist" I met told me a friend operated on him to clamp his pancreas to test something or other. He advised me not to do it because "it makes you very sick".

Don't know if anyone in Pfizer top brass would test their vaccine, but I personally will wait a couple of months after it becomes available.

Cass

Real Clear politics have uncalled Arizona and Pennsylvania for Biden.

Both states are still at 97% count with Trump now behind by 14,000 in Arizona and 45,000 in PA. There is an estimated 95,000 votes to be counted in Az and 190,000 in PA.

Also in Georgia they're at 99% which leaves an estimated 49,000 votes to be counted with Trump trailing by only 11,000.

If he continues to catch Biden or even overtakes him that means Biden goes from the premature call of 290 down to 259 and Trump from 211 up to 242 and with him [Trump] definitely winning Alaska that is 245. Finally leaving North Carolina with it's 15 EV and Georgia with its 16 for a grand total of 276.

How mad would that be? If it were to happen i wonder would Biden's "acceptance" speech of unity, solidarity and co-operation still be valid?

Grizzly 45

One thing for sure is this,If the Dems think there is going to be a massive forgive and forget coming together as a nation singing Kuum ba eh and other Biden blather under the BidenHarris dictatorship .

After 4 years of remorseless slagging,attacks on people ,property ,famlies and children,who dared to publicly support their president onlineand in the media or in real life.With loss of jobs peoperty and dignity.They have another think coming.They can politely go and f&#k themselves!

Mellor

tudderone wrote: »

How much will it cost though ? 50 quid a pop ? 100 ? 1000 ?

I imagine it would be pretty cheap. Given they are competing with 2 Chinese vaccines, a Russian one, and UK one all at the same stage of testing.

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

All the Pfizer execs from the president , the board, onwards, should be the first to line up for the free shots of their own new wonder drug, then their families, and then test them out with some Covid plague.

Putin tested the Russian vaccine, in prelim stages, on his daughter a few months ago. Allegedly at least.

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Won't make a damn bit of difference to the Deer:eek:. You can go out in Neon pink and dayglo rave colours and the deer won't see you, as they can't pick up that colour spectrum. They CAN, however, see very well the colour of your blue jeans as it apparently shows up as solid black in their vision. ...Just sayin.:P

i'd well believe it. If the boys in american are happy to get kitted out in blaze orange then that's good enough for me that the deer are blind to it - shooting accidents dropped considerably in the states when that came in, well according to, a pro hunter I heard talk about it on a podcast.

tudderone

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

One thing for sure is this,If the Dems think there is going to be a massive forgive and forget coming together as a nation singing Kuum ba eh and other Biden blather under the BidenHarris dictatorship .

After 4 years of remorseless slagging,attacks on people ,property ,famlies and children,who dared to publicly support their president onlineand in the media or in real life.With loss of jobs peoperty and dignity.They have another think coming.They can politely go and f&#k themselves!

I was watching dispatches last night on C4, which i know as a channel is further to the left than Karl Marx. But it seems America has been split down the middle for decades, and its finally bubbling to the surface. Some are blaming Trump for it, but it others say he was just a symptom.

About half seem to be woke liberals living in cities and the other half conservatives living in the smaller cities and country.

17 million guns were bought in the run up to this election :eek:

Birdnuts

yubabill wrote: »

This still goes on, I have seen it personally. One archetypal "mad scientist" I met told me a friend operated on him to clamp his pancreas to test something or other. He advised me not to do it because "it makes you very sick".

Don't know if anyone in Pfizer top brass would test their vaccine, but I personally will wait a couple of months after it becomes available.

Accoding it a virologist on the PK show this morning, the vaccine is likely to be of a type that has alot of nasty side-effects for some people.

tudderone

Birdnuts wrote: »

Accoding it a virologist on the PK show this morning, the vaccine is likely to be of a type that has alot of nasty side-effects for some people.

I was told it takes years to get any medicine or vaccine approved, especially after things like the Thalidomide scandal years ago. Its reported that the vaccine must be kept at a temperature of minus 70 degrees C. Better think warm thoughts when you are getting the injection.

Grizzly 45

tudderone wrote: »

I was watching dispatches last night on C4, which i know as a channel is further to the left than Karl Marx. But it seems America has been split down the middle for decades, and its finally bubbling to the surface. Some are blaming Trump for it, but it others say he was just a symptom.

About half seem to be woke liberals living in cities and the other half conservatives living in the smaller cities and country.

17 million guns were bought in the run up to this election :eek:

That's a given that there has always been this party split. But at one point it was they agreed to disagree and conducted themselves still as neighbours and relatively civilised people. Remember Ron Regan inviting the Dems and Tip O Neil to breakfast when he was elected president to try and foster diplomatic accord? what do you think would happen if Trump, when he gets back in, would do such or what the reaction would be?

It has become more and more obvious since Clinton that there is a nastier and downright aggressive and blatantly Socialist outlook in the Democrat party and it is really coming to the fore these days. Esp since Trump won in 2016 when before he was a Leftist Media darling in a TV show and palled around with the Clintons, and all the other Leftie media and NYC crowd. They really dont like been sold out by one of their own.

Wonder will the supply be able to meet the market on this Black Friday? Reckon with the possibility of Biden getting in it will top that number.
If you want Americans to stop buying guns, it's simple.Stop saying you are going to ban or confiscate them. Three years of the "Trump slump" in the gun industry proves that point.

Grizzly 45

Mellor wrote: »

i'd well believe it. If the boys in America are happy to get kitted out in blaze orange then that's good enough for me that the deer are blind to it - shooting accidents dropped considerably in the states when that came in, well according to, a pro hunter I heard talk about it on a podcast.

Yup,even the Germans in their hidebound traditions of wearing green, are starting to put blaze orange on their hatbands and starting to put blaze orange into their kit as well.

tudderone

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

It has become more and more obvious since Clinton that there is a nastier and downright aggressive and blatantly Socialist outlook in the Democrat party and it is really coming to the fore these days.

God knows why, anywhere they control is degenerating into a right tip :eek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzWSowCz_Ow

yubabill

Cass wrote: »

Real Clear politics have uncalled Arizona and Pennsylvania for Biden.

Both states are still at 97% count with Trump now behind by 14,000 in Arizona and 45,000 in PA. There is an estimated 95,000 votes to be counted in Az and 190,000 in PA.

Also in Georgia they're at 99% which leaves an estimated 49,000 votes to be counted with Trump trailing by only 11,000.

If he continues to catch Biden or even overtakes him that means Biden goes from the premature call of 290 down to 259 and Trump from 211 up to 242 and with him [Trump] definitely winning Alaska that is 245. Finally leaving North Carolina with it's 15 EV and Georgia with its 16 for a grand total of 276.

How mad would that be? If it were to happen i wonder would Biden's "acceptance" speech of unity, solidarity and co-operation still be valid?

RCP tweeted that they had not called PA at all yet.

Tim Pool calls himself a liberal who voted for Trump and he's read the lawsuit in PA. He reckons it's likely Biden will win in the voting but Trump has a tiny chance.

His take on the lawsuit is that the complaint about observers is not that strong, but the allegation that votes have not been treated equally (per bush v gore SC judgement) has a chance.

In PA Dem areas, voters were contacted to "cure" their vote if the officials thought it was noncompliant, but in Rep areas, they were not given this amenity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaQesIteFEw

Grizzly 45

tudderone wrote: »

God knows why, anywhere they control is degenerating into a right tip :eek:

That is absolutely depressing to watch...I can't believe it has degenerated so much in 30 years since I lived in CA.:(:(.Well actually,I can! Because it[CA in its entireity] was starting to accelerate off the cliff edge back in the mid-90s and obviously has now lit the afterburners to accelerate the crash.

The entire 33 Dist congress is now a total dumpster fire. It was under Republican control from 1967 to 1993 since then the Dems have control.... Keeps voting Dem and keeps voting in people like Feinstein,Boxer ,Clinton. Gore,Newsom, Biden Harris...:rolleyes::rolleyes:

BattleCorp

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

That is absolutely depressing to watch...I can't believe it has degenerated so much in 30 years since I lived in CA.:(:(.Well actually,I can! Because it[CA in its entireity] was starting to accelerate off the cliff edge back in the mid-90s and obviously has now lit the afterburners to accelerate the crash.

The entire 33 Dist congress is now a total dumpster fire. It was under Republican control from 1967 to 1993 since then the Dems have control.... Keeps voting Dem and keeps voting in people like Feinstein,Boxer ,Clinton. Gore,Newsom, Biden Harris...:rolleyes::rolleyes:

I was in SF in October 2019. Myself and the missus were on hols and after 2 days in the city my missus wouldn't stay there any more. The amount of homeless and people with mental issues made some areas look like land of the living dead.

I can't scream this loud enough. WHAT A FCUKIN KIP.

Grizzly 45

To bring back your happy memories of your travel:eek::eek:
I'd rather keep my memories of it in the 80s.:(:(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ld6qYJe4pRs

clawback07

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

One thing for sure is this,If the Dems think there is going to be a massive forgive and forget coming together as a nation singing Kuum ba eh and other Biden blather under the BidenHarris dictatorship .

After 4 years of remorseless slagging,attacks on people ,property ,famlies and children,who dared to publicly support their president onlineand in the media or in real life.With loss of jobs peoperty and dignity.They have another think coming.They can politely go and f&#k themselves!

A president who slagged off those Patriots who risked life and limb in the service of their country , called them cowards and losers . I'm sure John Mc Cain and others who endured the horrors of being a P.O.W . might not agree with you Grizzly . I'm totally impartial when it comes to American politics but when a loudmouth who never stood in a frontline situation belittles heros it's time he politely went and f##ked himself .

Rosahane

clawback07 wrote: »

A president who slagged off those Patriots who risked life and limb in the service of their country , called them cowards and losers . I'm sure John Mc Cain and others who endured the horrors of being a P.O.W . might not agree with you Grizzly . I'm totally impartial when it comes to American politics but when a loudmouth who never stood in a frontline situation belittles heros it's time he politely went and f##ked himself .

That was proved to be fake news!

tudderone

BattleCorp wrote: »

I was in SF in October 2019. Myself and the missus were on hols and after 2 days in the city my missus wouldn't stay there any more. The amount of homeless and people with mental issues made some areas look like land of the living dead.

I can't scream this loud enough. WHAT A FCUKIN KIP.

A lad i was in college with was heading to SF to work for his summer hol's. Never again was his opinion on it. He left central SF after a few weeks and got work in one of the outer suburbs.

And i thought dublin was bad.

Cass

clawback07 wrote: »

I'm totally impartial when it comes to American politics but when a loudmouth who never stood in a frontline situation belittles heros it's time he politely went and f##ked himself .

Remind me what branch of the Military Biden served in, and just for sh*ts and Giggles instead of relying on disproven and anonymous reports about the "loudmouth", how about hearing it straight from the horses mouth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whY71N9eVQ4

clawback07

Cass wrote: »

Remind me what branch of the Military Biden served in, and just for sh*ts and Giggles instead of relying on disproven and anonymous reports about the "loudmouth", how about hearing it straight from the horses mouth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whY71N9eVQ4

Gosh , I don't think I said he served in the military , don't recall him belittling anyone who did either. Both his sons served , one in the Army and one in the Navy , or is that fake news ?

tudderone

clawback07 wrote: »

Gosh , I don't think I said he served in the military , don't recall him belittling anyone who did either. Both his sons served , one in the Army and one in the Navy , or is that fake news ?

Which one was the one who is hooked on crack cocaine and doing dodgy deals with the Ukrainian villians ?

tudderone

Things getting hectic in America. One lad i know over there telling me he went into a gunshop for ammo. $60 for a 50 round box of .40 s&w :eek:.

Mellor

Rosahane wrote: »

That was proved to be fake news!

Was it?
To be honest, I’ve never believed he said. Seems contrary to his opinion of the military. But I also don’t know how it could be debunked. The ongoing problem with fake news.
Biden is also clearly joking in that clip.