Chelsea vs Spurs- FA Cup Semi Final

yabadabado

Bret Hart wrote: »

Spurs will be doing well to hang on to Kane and Alli as they'll soon begin too realise if they want to win silverware,there going to have join a club that's DNA is synonymous with it.

I think Kane will hang around for a few years no matter what happens(within reason) the likes of Alli Eriksen
Alderweireld would he much harder to hold onto especially if Poch left.

yabadabado

Deise Vu wrote: »

What are you a moderator in as a matter of interest? Welcome to the football forum anyway. Spurs are the team that has **** the bed to the extent that Chelsea's unassailable 10 point lead has decreased to 4 points in the last five weeks.

If you need any technical explanations such as the offside rule or anything just pm me.

Burn

U ok hun

Trigger

It's mad but to go after a Soccer mod that has been a staple of the soccer forum for years :pac:

"Welcome to the soccer forum" coming from a Spurs fan who are afraid to even join into the actual forum and like to live in their own little world over on that Forum.

yabadabado

One of the best posters in this forum as well .

Deise Vu

Deise Vu wrote: »

What are you a moderator in as a matter of interest? Welcome to the football forum anyway. Spurs are the team that has **** the bed to the extent that Chelsea's unassailable 10 point lead has decreased to 4 points in the last five weeks.

If you need any technical explanations such as the offside rule or anything just pm me.

If Spurs overhall Chelsea and win the league then they will be rightly praised. Until then they may be regarded as a club who just can't get it together to cross the line to the next level.

2 league cups and an FA cup in the last 30 years says it all, and they've been in Arsenal's shadow for a long long time.

yabadabado

Spurs need to win a trophy with that team asap .Even a league cup would help.it's all well and good playing attractive football and getting heaps of praise but until they actually win something it will always be thrown at them that they are soft.

yabadabado

yabadabado wrote: »

Spurs need to win a trophy with that team asap .Even a league cup would help.it's all well and good playing attractive football and getting heaps of praise but until they actually win something it will always be thrown at them that they are soft.

I don't think they are too far away tbh. Very good manager with an excellent team.

yabadabado

RoboKlopp wrote: »

I don't think they are too far away tbh. Very good manager with an excellent team.

I agree but need silverware or players heads will be turned.I think they will have bids for numerous players this summer and be interesting to see what happens.

yabadabado

yabadabado wrote: »

I agree but need silverware or players heads will be turned.I think they will have bids for numerous players this summer and be interesting to see what happens.

Yeah maybe.

They'll have CL next season anyway so personally I can see them adding top players rather than subtracting.

adox

Deise Vu wrote: »

What are you a moderator in as a matter of interest? Welcome to the football forum anyway. Spurs are the team that has **** the bed to the extent that Chelsea's unassailable 10 point lead has decreased to 4 points in the last five weeks.

If you need any technical explanations such as the offside rule or anything just pm me.

Cringey.

GavRedKing

Deise Vu wrote: »

What are you a moderator in as a matter of interest? Welcome to the football forum anyway. Spurs are the team that has **** the bed to the extent that Chelsea's unassailable 10 point lead has decreased to 4 points in the last five weeks.

If you need any technical explanations such as the offside rule or anything just pm me.

How many lemons do you want mate? :pac:

yabadabado

That's what happens when they leave their hosted backwater !

SlickRic

Deise Vu wrote: »

What are you a moderator in as a matter of interest? Welcome to the football forum anyway. Spurs are the team that has **** the bed to the extent that Chelsea's unassailable 10 point lead has decreased to 4 points in the last five weeks.

If you need any technical explanations such as the offside rule or anything just pm me.

Spurs lost when it matters. Deal with it. It's the usual pattern.

It's one thing to cut a lead down. It's another to get over the line. If you knew anything about top level sport, you'd know the difference.

This Spurs team have proven the sweet sum of fúck all until they actually put some silverware in that trophy cabinet. For all the plaudits they get (and I've seen a few too many articles and pundits telling me they're the best team in the league in recent weeks), they've not won anything.

If they don't overhaul Chelsea (which given Chelsea's run-in is highly likely), then all Spurs will have achieved is Champions League football, St Totteringham's Day not happening for once, and maybe a golden boot for Harry Kane.

Well done.

Dirty Dingus McGee

SlickRic wrote: »

Spurs lost when it matters. Deal with it. It's the usual pattern.

It's one thing to cut a lead down. It's another to get over the line. If you knew anything about top level sport, you'd know the difference.

This Spurs team have proven the sweet sum of fúck all until they actually put some silverware in that trophy cabinet. For all the plaudits they get (and I've seen a few too many articles and pundits telling me they're the best team in the league in recent weeks), they've not won anything.

If they don't overhaul Chelsea (which given Chelsea's run-in is highly likely), then all Spurs will have achieved is Champions League football, St Totteringham's Day not happening for once, and maybe a golden boot for Harry Kane.

Well done.

Spot on.

Spurs great run although excellent is meaningless because they haven't had any pressure on them it's an Arsenalesque run of form of playing well when you were out of contention, now that they are in contention we'll see how good they are.They completely **** themselves last year when they should have won the league so until they perform when the pressure is really on they don'tr deserve the massive praise they have been getting up to now.

Andersonisgod

SlickRic wrote: »

Spurs lost when it matters. Deal with it. It's the usual pattern.

It's one thing to cut a lead down. It's another to get over the line. If you knew anything about top level sport, you'd know the difference.

This Spurs team have proven the sweet sum of fúck all until they actually put some silverware in that trophy cabinet. For all the plaudits they get (and I've seen a few too many articles and pundits telling me they're the best team in the league in recent weeks), they've not won anything.

If they don't overhaul Chelsea (which given Chelsea's run-in is highly likely), then all Spurs will have achieved is Champions League football, St Totteringham's Day not happening for once, and maybe a golden boot for Harry Kane.

Well done.

They've been the best team in the Premier League points-wise over the course of the last 2 seasons.

I'm not arguing in favour of them, simply stating that it's not like they've only been on a good run of form the last few weeks.

sReq | uTeK

Andersonisgod wrote: »

They've been the best team in the Premier League points-wise over the course of the last 2 seasons.

I'm not arguing in favour of them, simply stating that it's not like they've only been on a good run of form the last few weeks.

So what. They've won nothing. Winners win losers lose.

Spurs until they prove otherwise play some neat stuff when it doesn't matter and lost 5-1 to a relegated Newcastle side when it does.

Skylinehead

Andersonisgod wrote: »

They've been the best team in the Premier League points-wise over the course of the last 2 seasons.

I'm not arguing in favour of them, simply stating that it's not like they've only been on a good run of form the last few weeks.

Yeah he's hardly claiming they're on a random run of form when he states that they should have won the league last year now is he?

Andersonisgod

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

So what. They've won nothing. Winners win losers lose.

Spurs until they prove otherwise play some neat stuff when it doesn't matter and lost 5-1 to a relegated Newcastle side when it does.

Don't think I could've been any clearer short of writing it in caps. Not. Arguing. In. Favour. Of. Spurs.


Simply pointing out Slick Ric's metric as being misleading. Odd example of game though given that the actual race for the title was over at that stage and the difference between 2nd and 3rd is almost insignificant.

Trigger

Spurs are the only team you can trust to finish 3rd in a 2 horse race

SlickRic

Andersonisgod wrote: »

They've been the best team in the Premier League points-wise over the course of the last 2 seasons.

I'm not arguing in favour of them, simply stating that it's not like they've only been on a good run of form the last few weeks.

You're completely missing my point on purpose, or you're illiterate.

Choose one.

Deise Vu

Jesus, I seem to have hit a nerve or two here! Enjoy the run in lads, won't it be interesting to see which of Liverpool, Utd or Arsenal **** the bed? Again.

sReq | uTeK

Deise Vu wrote: »

Jesus, I seem to have hit a nerve or two here! Enjoy the run in lads, won't it be interesting to see which of Liverpool, Utd or Arsenal **** the bed? Again.

As you can see from Arsenal there is no glory In consequetively gaining qualification to the champions league time and time again. MEDIOCROTY should not be the be all and end all, but sadly for spurs fans it's the case.

Andersonisgod

SlickRic wrote: »

You're completely missing my point on purpose, or you're illiterate.

Choose one.

Make your point clearer or stop whinging.

That'd be helpful.

Osmosis Jones

Deise Vu wrote: »

Jesus, I seem to have hit a nerve or two here! Enjoy the run in lads, won't it be interesting to see which of Liverpool, Utd or Arsenal **** the bed? Again.

Christ, a couple of top 4 finished and Spurs fans are as unbearable as the rest of us.

yabadabado

Deise Vu wrote: »

Jesus, I seem to have hit a nerve or two here! Enjoy the run in lads, won't it be interesting to see which of Liverpool, Utd or Arsenal **** the bed? Again.

I dont think you hit a nerve ,you just acted like a little bitch when someone questioned Spurs bottle and got called on it.

adox

Deise Vu wrote: »

Jesus, I seem to have hit a nerve or two here! Enjoy the run in lads, won't it be interesting to see which of Liverpool, Utd or Arsenal **** the bed? Again.

Ha. Scattergun approach now.

Toys out of the pram stuff.

Hilarious.

Deise Vu

In fairness I will admit I was humbled by the insightful analaysis here. There was a cracking game with six goals dominated by one team who still managed to lose by two goals despite dominating possession and getting 11-1 corners, lots of "professional fouls", etc etc . Plenty to discuss but the Lord Guru (apparently) had it sorted. The team that has managed to make a league if it the last two seasons is ****ting the bed. That's fantastic analysis, and I am embarrassed I didn't spot it myself.

Here's a question for you gurus. If Chelsea don't **** the bed with their handy run in will Kanye be the first player to ever win two consecutive league titles without playing a singe minute of either CL or EL football. He had some engine in him doesn't he?

Notorious

Deise Vu wrote: »

..will Kanye be the first player to ever win two consecutive league titles..

Hold on a second, did I miss Chelsea signing Kanye West??

Deise Vu

They might as well, they have no opposition apparently.

Arghus

If Spurs were as ultra defensive today as some they might not have conceded four.

Osmosis Jones

Deise Vu wrote: »

In fairness I will admit I was humbled by the insightful analaysis here. There was a cracking game with six goals dominated by one team who still managed to lose by two goals despite dominating possession and getting 11-1 corners, lots of "professional fouls", etc etc . Plenty to discuss but the Lord Guru (apparently) had it sorted. The team that has managed to make a league if it the last two seasons is ****ting the bed. That's fantastic analysis, and I am embarrassed I didn't spot it myself.

Here's a question for you gurus. If Chelsea don't **** the bed with their handy run in will Kanye be the first player to ever win two consecutive league titles without playing a singe minute of either CL or EL football. He had some engine in him doesn't he?

Yes yes, congratulations on "making a league of it." Truly the highest honour in football.

Deise Vu

I think I know why there is a Spurs forum now. So far all I'm getting here is something about beds and lemons. It's way above my understanding.

Corholio

I think there's a lot of over analysis on things like 'bottling' etc in football sometimes. I watched a very good game today that Spurs mostly dominated, to a point where Chelsea were struggling to even get the ball. I felt Spurs lacked pace in the last part of the pitch though and that slowed up a lot of their attacks to the point where Chelsea could get one of the defenders in the way to clear things. Spurs chance was definitely when Alli equalised and they had the momentum after that, but I felt they tried the 'Eriksen ball in behind' too often when they had possession and Chelsea were dealing with most of it. Poor enough not to close down Hazard for his goal, as good a strike as it was, should certainly have been avoided.

Was great to watch Spurs play like that today, even if it came to nothing in the end. Chelsea's resolve in defence was impressive to watch as well and their ability to make it count more than Spurs did.

The Talking Bread

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

Christ, a couple of top 4 finished and Spurs fans are as unbearable as the rest of us.

I've said it before, but whether out of frustration, arrogance, fear of the inevitable loss of players such as Kane ( ) or mere lacking a sense of humour or even an inferiority complex ( joke... ), Spurs fans can't seem to take any criticism or slagging the last 2 seasons.

They seem to think everyone is out to get them and even though they get lots of deserved praise, like all teams, they deserve criticism. I know all fans have an instinct to feel they have to defend their team from criticism, some reasonable, others not, a lot of Spurs fans need to realise that they did bottle it last year. This year is different, they haven't ever gone on a bad run. What has cost them is that run in October of 4 or 5 draws.

Other than that, apart from a couple of defeats that were hardly embarrasing given the opposition, they have been consistent. They just have unfortunately came up against an excellent Chelsea team.

They are not bottling this season by any means, the opposite in fact. They are fighting a battle to catch Chelsea that seemed an inevitable loss a few weeks back and have put themselves in a situation where there is, although probably unlikely, a good chance of them catching their rivals.

Arsenal and United coming up now, both of whom will be desperate to win themselves so it is a good opportunity to evaluate their mentality when the finishing line is in sight.

Even today, they were very unlucky and itwas a typical cup game.

Saying that I stand by my point that certain Spurs fans need to get a dose of reality that people who give them any sort of criticism aren't necessarily merely out to insult the team.



Ohm, and I was clearly joking about the inferiority complex remark,,,,,,,kind of !

Deise Vu

Corholio wrote: »

I think there's a lot of over analysis on things like 'bottling' etc in football sometimes. I watched a very good game today that Spurs mostly dominated, to a point where Chelsea were struggling to even get the ball. I felt Spurs lacked pace in the last part of the pitch though and that slowed up a lot of their attacks to the point where Chelsea could get one of the defenders in the way to clear things. Spurs chance was definitely when Alli equalised and they had the momentum after that, but I felt they tried the 'Eriksen ball in behind' too often when they had possession and Chelsea were dealing with most of it. Poor enough not to close down Hazard for his goal, as good a strike as it was, should certainly have been avoided.

Was great to watch Spurs play like that today, even if it came to nothing in the end. Chelsea's resolve in defence was impressive to watch as well and their ability to make it count more than Spurs did.

What the hell is this madness? You are trying to analyse a marvellous match. You will get banned. Next you will be asking questions about Ericsson's delivery from corners or maybe asking why a huge team like Spurs can be dominated at set pieces by Sideshow Bob or questioning the philosophy about keeping possession and trying to find space. Maybe it's better to let the opposition have the ball and compress the game in your own half?

All interesting stuff or maybe we should discuss citrus fruits and fecal matter instead because everyone knows that Spurs fans just can't handle not winning seeing as they've won all those cups over the last 30 years.

Lukker-

Deise Vu wrote: »

What the hell is this madness? You are trying to analyse a marvellous match. You will get banned. Next you will be asking questions about Ericsson's delivery from corners or maybe asking why a huge team like Spurs can be dominated at set pieces by Sideshow Bob or questioning the philosophy about keeping possession and trying to find space. Maybe it's better to let the opposition have the ball and compress the game in your own half?

All interesting stuff or maybe we should discuss citrus fruits and fecal matter instead because everyone knows that Spurs fans just can't handle not winning seeing as they've won all those cups over the last 30 years.

You certainly can't.

Deise Vu

Lukker- wrote: »

You certainly can't.

You got me there. It was only the endless series of trophies, year after year that dragged me into following Spurs.

Any thoughts on how the game ended the way it did.

I'll simplify that for you. Any thoughts? About anything like.

For instance is Kanye/ Kante the first (possibly!) player to win two EPLs ( or any major European league for that matter) who hadn't played a minute of CL or EL football. Is that even relevant or important? I'm just asking.

Tom Mann Centuria

Deise Vu wrote: »

For instance is Kanye/ Kante the first (possibly!) player to win two EPLs ( or any major European league for that matter) who hadn't played a minute of CL or EL football. Is that even relevant or important? I'm just asking.

Don't think it's important really, there won't be an asterisk on Kante's winners medal should he get one.

SlickRic

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Make your point clearer or stop whinging.

That'd be helpful.

Spurs! Spurs! With the precocious talents of Dele Alli, the vision of Christian Eriksen and the unerring finishing ability of Harry Kane, the North London outfit are a sight to behold when in full flight. Despite the talents on show, when it comes to actually winning when it truly matters, the Lilywhites of White Hart Lane still fall agonisingly short of the standard required.

But maybe one day? Let's go Tottenham Hotspur!

Tom Mann Centuria

SlickRic wrote: »

Spurs! Spurs! With the precocious talents of Dele Alli, the vision of Christian Eriksen and the unerring finishing ability of Harry Kane, the North London outfit are a sight to behold when in full flight. Despite the talents on show, when it comes to actually winning when it truly matters, the Lilywhites of White Hart Lane still fall agonisingly short of the standard required.

But maybe one day? Let's go Tottenham Hotspur!

Quality Pathe News coverage!

Andersonisgod

SlickRic wrote: »

Spurs! Spurs! With the precocious talents of Dele Alli, the vision of Christian Eriksen and the unerring finishing ability of Harry Kane, the North London outfit are a sight to behold when in full flight. Despite the talents on show, when it comes to actually winning when it truly matters, the Lilywhites of White Hart Lane still fall agonisingly short of the standard required.

But maybe one day? Let's go Tottenham Hotspur!

That language seems a bit flowery for my liking...

But hey, nice deflection away from the original point that you know you were wrong about but didn't expect to get called out on it. Shame I'm here, and that's what I do.

SlickRic

Andersonisgod wrote: »

That language seems a bit flowery for my liking...

But hey, nice deflection away from the original point that you know you were wrong about but didn't expect to get called out on it. Shame I'm here, and that's what I do.

You talk nonsense from a pedestal. That's what you do.

And there's no point explaining again. It's clear to everyone but you. And you'll ignore or deflect anyway. Another thing you do.

I'll leave you to prepare for El Clasico.

jacool

SlickRic wrote: »

Spurs lost when it matters. Deal with it. It's the usual pattern.

It's one thing to cut a lead down. It's another to get over the line. If you knew anything about top level sport, you'd know the difference.

This Spurs team have proven the sweet sum of fúck all until they actually put some silverware in that trophy cabinet. For all the plaudits they get (and I've seen a few too many articles and pundits telling me they're the best team in the league in recent weeks), they've not won anything.

If they don't overhaul Chelsea (which given Chelsea's run-in is highly likely), then all Spurs will have achieved is Champions League football, St Totteringham's Day not happening for once, and maybe a golden boot for Harry Kane.

Well done.

You should see how desperate the fans of some clubs are to achieve just that one target!!

My take on the game was that Spurs were unlucky, and Chelsea were ruthless. There was nothing on the Spurs bench, but Chelsea threw on 3 quality players to turn the game.
I thought the referee favoured Chelsea throughout the game.
Alonso and Ake got away with loads of fouls without being booked for them (Alonso booked for kicking the ball away) and Kante got to build up a load of fouls before his booking. Dembele should have been carded as well for Spurs. I'm not forgetting the handball either, I thought that the linesman should have called that.
The penalty was a crazy one, one of those that showed Moses at his professional best. He was on his way down when it might have been easier to hurdle Son (what was he doing??), but I know that if Moses was on my team I wouldn't be complaining if he did the same thing.
I think that has settled the league as well now, as Spurs won't get any chance to close the gap now over the next two series of fixtures as Chelsea play first in both. Tottenham just have to keep winning now to ensure second place.

A great week for football though, 2 cracking games (Barca/Juve) !!

DrumSteve

Great game, matic's goal was something else though.

Chelsea well deserved it too regardless of any potenial ref decisions (spurs were fairly dirty at times and got away with it)

Deise Vu

Deise Vu wrote: »

I think I know why there is a Spurs forum now. So far all I'm getting here is something about beds and lemons. It's way above my understanding.

Its a self contained bubble of delusions by the sounds of it.

Plenty of debate across the soccer forum between various different supporters some good some bad but that's the point.

Imagine going to a soccer match and only the home support are allowed attend. Sounds **** doesn't it?

Giggsy11

SlickRic wrote: »

You talk nonsense from a pedestal. That's what you do.
.

Hit nail on the head. Funny how he talked so much about possession when Jose's team had less possession and not a peep about it when Chelsea had around 35% possession in a neutral venue.

duploelabs

I'm open to correction but I don't think Mark Schwarzer played any champions league football when he played for Chelsea in the 14/15 season so therefore he's the first, not Kanye/Kante, that's won back to back epl titles with two different clubs without playing any European football.

HalloweenJack

He would have played for Boro and/or Fulham in their Europa League runs, surely.

The Talking Bread

HalloweenJack wrote: »

He would have played for Boro and/or Fulham in their Europa League runs, surely.

He is referring to Champions League the year Chelsea won the title.

In fact the previous season he played in the latter stages of the Champions League, against Atletico Madrid, I think because Cech was injured??

I think he is the oldest Champ League keeper/

M!Ck^

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Its a self contained bubble of delusions by the sounds of it.

Plenty of debate across the soccer forum between various different supporters some good some bad but that's the point.

Imagine going to a soccer match and only the home support are allowed attend. Sounds **** doesn't it?

Depends on the away fans!