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People on Boards who judge other people

  • 23-04-2017 1:48pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    There's a strong element of looking down on other people present on these pages. Be the targets poor people, single mothers or working class people as they put it. The thing is I rarely rarely hear those views among real people. Are more people than I think judgmental or does Boards bring out the extremes in society?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 14 CzechChick


    i agree from reading the posts today, seems like 90% looking down


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭EICVD


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    There's a strong element of looking down on other people present on these pages. Be the targets poor people, single mothers or working class people as they put it. The thing is I rarely rarely hear those views among real people. Are more people than I think judgmental or does Boards bring out the extremes in society?

    It's easy to judge people hiding behind a username!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    CzechChick wrote: »
    i agree from reading the posts today, seems like 90% looking down

    I'd have to a disagree with that number. My maths puts it about 78%


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭Jack the Stripper


    I'd have to a disagree with that number. My maths puts it about 78%

    Link?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    I'd have to a disagree with that number. My maths puts it about 78%

    WELL THAT'S BECAUSE EVERYONE ON SOCIAL WELFARE IS SH1TY AT MATHS! ect


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    There's a strong element of looking down on other people present on these pages. Be the targets poor people, single mothers or working class people as they put it. The thing is I rarely rarely hear those views among real people. Are more people than I think judgmental or does Boards bring out the extremes in society?


    Maybe people feel they have to moderate their opinions around you.

    I have plenty of friends that I would plan a genocide with and people who I say nothing around until they are sussed out.

    Even on boards I would moderate my opinions compared to my inner circle.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 14 CzechChick


    I'd have to a disagree with that number. My maths puts it about 78%

    i dispute your 12% differential


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    EICVD wrote: »
    It's easy to judge people hiding behind a username!

    That's very true but it implies that these views are secretly held. I have never heard people get as angry at social welfare as I have on Boards.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    Multiquoters, the lot of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,706 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    AH brings out the chronic moaner in people.

    What I can't work out is how people get so worked up about other people liking/not liking a particular food/sport/song/place/anything that they try and get them to see that they are wrong.

    Why would you even give a f**k what completely anonymous strangers like or don't like.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Maybe people feel they have to moderate their opinions around you.

    I have plenty of friends that I would plan a genocide with and people who I say nothing around until they are sussed out.

    I don't think so Richard. My friends aren't that weak that they have to hide their opinion around me.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭Jack the Stripper


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    WELL THAT'S BECAUSE EVERYONE ON SOCIAL WELFARE IS SH1TY AT MATHS! ect

    What's with the cap locks none of us have a visual impairment.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    There's a strong element of looking down on other people present on these pages. Be the targets poor people, single mothers or working class people as they put it. The thing is I rarely rarely hear those views among real people. Are more people than I think judgmental or does Boards bring out the extremes in society?

    People find it easier to hang out unpopular opinions in a forum setting that they would be more reserved of offending someone face to face.
    I agree there is a lot of "looking down" on those who aren't as fortunate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    There is an intolerance on Boards that I don't encounter in real life. But if it keeps a discussion moving fair enough. It's the replies that just dismiss others, simply because the posters don't agree, that are purely judgemental and add nothing to the discussion.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 14 CzechChick


    People find it easier to hang out unpopular opinions in a forum setting that they would be more reserved of offending someone face to face.
    I agree there is a lot of "looking down" on those who aren't as fortunate.

    not from what i see on here, seems if you dont hold the line as regards opinions you are a bottom feeder from their POV


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 14 CzechChick


    There is an intolerance on Boards that I don't encounter in real life. But if it keeps a discussion moving fair enough. It's the replies that just dismiss others, simply because the posters don't agree, that are purely judgemental and add nothing to the discussion.

    i dont agree with that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    24% of the 90% disagree.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    CzechChick wrote: »
    not from what i see on here, seems if you dont hold the line as regards opinions you are a bottom feeder from their POV

    Anyone that cannot change their mind or opinions based on responses of others, is a little single minded and immune to progression. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    People find it easier to hang out unpopular opinions in a forum setting that they would be more reserved of offending someone face to face.
    I agree there is a lot of "looking down" on those who aren't as fortunate.

    I agree with most of that but, in fairness, there are one or two of those less fortunate, as you put it, who are very intolerant of anybody who can afford to have, eat, do, or enjoy anything that they don't. Like everything in life, it works both ways.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    CzechChick wrote: »
    i dont agree with that

    And I respect your right to not agree.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    There are certainly some extremes on boards. In my opinion people find it easier to express them here rather than in person because they can hide behind a username, close an account if needs be or just ditch it, have more time to formulate arguments and opinions compared to when they're put on the spot in an in person discussion.

    You also have to differentiate between actual opinions and trolls which can be difficult at times too.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 14 CzechChick


    And I respect your right to not agree.

    Red card


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    I agree with most of that but, in fairness, there are one or two of those less fortunate, as you put it, who are very intolerant of anybody who can afford to have, eat, do, or enjoy anything that they don't. Like everything in life, it works both ways.

    One in particular springs to mind!


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I agree with most of that but, in fairness, there are one or two of those less fortunate, as you put it, who are very intolerant of anybody who can afford to have, eat, do, or enjoy anything that they don't. Like everything in life, it works both ways.

    That's true.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭soups05


    Anyone that cannot change their mind or opinions based on responses of others ;)

    is probably safe in the knowledge that they are correct and other opinions are simply opinions. why would i change my mind simply because you disagree with me?
    you should respect my opinion as much as i respect your right to be wrong.



    :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 646 ✭✭✭hungry hypno toad


    Agreed, express any legitimate concerns about the impact of mass immigration on Europe and European values and you are branded racist or far right. The biased moderation is not helpful either.

    Plus lots of anti British sentiment which I find disappointing along with others gloating over the democratic Brexit decision and the alleged damage it will do the British economy.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    soups05 wrote: »
    is probably safe in the knowledge that they are correct and other opinions are simply opinions. why would i change my mind simply because you disagree with me?
    you should respect my opinion as much as i respect your right to be wrong.



    :)
    I don't mean do a u turn on your principles because of a disagreement, more so your opinion on something can change based on others experiences.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,317 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    There's a strong element of looking down on other people present on these pages. Be the targets poor people, single mothers or working class people as they put it. The thing is I rarely rarely hear those views among real people. Are more people than I think judgmental or does Boards bring out the extremes in society?


    I don't think Boards actually does bring out the extremists at all, well, certainly not what I would consider extremist anyway, but I've never been near the migrant threads or politics which seem to generate a disproportionate amount of threads in Feedback.

    Everyone judges to some extent, some more than others, and just as they will judge negatively, so too will they judge positively. Isn't that how we've determined our place in the world since we were babies ourselves, and how societies have evolved since the dawn of man?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    KERSPLAT! wrote: »
    One in particular springs to mind!

    If it's the same one as comes to mind for me, they not only do so but in the process they drag the discussion off topic because human nature demands that their intolerance is responded to.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 469 ✭✭Somedude9


    You're all a bunch of little whinging geebags...Whoops :o


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Samaris


    What's with the cap locks none of us have a visual impairment.

    I might and I look down my nose (myopically) at you for assuming such ableism!

    Harumph, I say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,317 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    What's with the cap locks none of us have a visual impairment.

    o/

    :pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 14 CzechChick


    Somedude9 wrote: »
    You're all a bunch of little whinging geebags...Whoops :o

    You are a nerd


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    CzechChick wrote: »
    You are a nerd

    And a dude none the less. Banned.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    KERSPLAT! wrote: »
    And a dude none the less. Banned.

    :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Judging others as being judgemental is the worst and most hypocritical judgementalism there is.

    And misinterpreting posts as judgmental comes a close second

    And these two are epidemic here.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Graces7 wrote: »
    Judging others as being judgemental is the worst and most hypocritical judgementalism there is.

    And misinterpreting posts as judgmental comes a close second

    And these two are epidemic here.

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/endemic


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    Agreed, express any legitimate concerns about the impact of mass immigration on Europe and European values and you are branded racist or far right. The biased moderation is not helpful either.

    Plus lots of anti British sentiment which I find disappointing along with others gloating over the democratic Brexit decision and the alleged damage it will do the British economy.

    Mod

    Take your mod issues to the appropriate forums. This isn't one of them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39,022 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    I agree with most of that but, in fairness, there are one or two of those less fortunate, as you put it, who are very intolerant of anybody who can afford to have, eat, do, or enjoy anything that they don't. Like everything in life, it works both ways.

    That's very true but it's also fair to say that polarising opinions often serve to polarise views (captain state the obvious here)

    There are threads were people line up to say "poor people don't want education, people's poverty is their own doing, single mothers should know when to stop having kids ect". These sort of views bring out opposing and sometimes, equally vile views.

    I don't agree with the ridiculous everyone should feel ashamed for eating out view, but I think it's understandable when people question privilege in response to dole bashing.

    For example two of the biggest dole and poverty bashers on here talk about inheriting their house, getting their mother/spouse to wash all their clothes and then talk about other people not being self reliant. Now I myself am being judgmental here, but it's hard not to be when some views are presented and those espousing them. I'm not saying it's right. I'm just detailing how judgement begets judgement.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,317 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    I hadn't realised this was a thread for people to air their personal grievances with other posters. Not something I think anyone should get caught up in tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    There's a strong element of looking down on other people present on these pages. Be the targets poor people, single mothers or working class people as they put it. The thing is I rarely rarely hear those views among real people. Are more people than I think judgmental or does Boards bring out the extremes in society?

    I think you have taking a certain position which may lead to a degree of judgement.

    I have heard these views in real life and plenty more besides.

    You mentioned working class etc but what about the bias against anyone who strives to be successful.

    Everyone gets judged and its up to the individual to deal with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39,022 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    There's a strong element of looking down on other people present on these pages. Be the targets poor people, single mothers or working class people as they put it. The thing is I rarely rarely hear those views among real people. Are more people than I think judgmental or does Boards bring out the extremes in society?

    I find this place to be the antithesis of the likes of some other places. Take for example, the Sunday World Facebook page. Full of people making excuses for criminals and fraudsters. ''Ah shure nobody got hurt, what harm''. There was a cash-in-transit robbery this week and one comment said ''Fair juice 2 de boys, Enda Kenny stole all are jobs inanyway''.

    There's got to be a middle ground somewhere!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,871 ✭✭✭DeanAustin


    Had to laugh yesterday at someone claiming they were being bullied on here. Wind yer neck in and grow thicker skin, it's the internet FFS.

    Cyber bullying to me is when someone in real life bullies you online. I could get that. I don't consider what happens on here between people who don't know each other as bullying. If yer that bothered ignore those people or find another site.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    I think some on boards find the courage to express their true views from behind a keyboard and then some just like to wind others up.

    Hard to tell the difference sometimes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    A bit of puritanical opinion going around alright, but then I've been seen as judgemental of the hijab even though it's the idea behind it,which basically amounts to more puritanism again, imo. My friend said everyone judges somebody, but I don't know if that's true..


    It's not just Boards either. Try being a vegetarian or vegan on Facebook, it does not go down well. On the other hand you'd see fanatical vegans judging meat eaters there as well.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    Personally my views on here are the same as what I express in real life and I don't think there's any harm in calling people out on their judgemental view of anyone.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    DeanAustin wrote:
    Cyber bullying to me is when someone in real life bullies you online. I could get that. I don't consider what happens on here between people who don't know each other as bullying. If yer that bothered ignore those people or find another site.


    You do realise this IS real life don't you? Do people honestly think boards is an alternate universe where there aren't really people behind their posts.

    Just because it's anonymous doesn't give people licence to bully.


  • Registered Users Posts: 540 ✭✭✭Solomon Pleasant


    Ireland has built a society which prides itself on material possession (cars/obsessive property ownership being regarded as a fundamental success metric being the perfect example) and one which is innately judgmental as a result. It's not just boards where people judge each other, people judge each other everywhere and at every opportunity they get - people are just generally more vocal about it on boards because it's an anonymous internet forum which won't affect people's views of the poster in reality, therefore granting them the perfect opportunity to voice their actual opinions. I don't think that this is a phenomenon unique to Ireland but it is extremely prominent in Ireland and something which I really dislike about the country.


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