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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,792 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    This is the maddest, illogical argument I've heard in a long time. :rolleyes:
    If at 6pm there are some unsavoury arguments going on between adults, not necessarily people tanked up out of their mind but they have had a couple and its dropped the barriers, and its not getting to fisticuff levels but it is get quite brash, there's lots of swearing , there lots of goading, there's lots of unsuitable subject matter the 6 year old should not be listening to ...

    or do you know what I want to leave that all behind and relax , so lets go to that lovely quiet restaurant down the road...

    You want the option of going to a quiet restaurant for a relaxed meal, and the way to guarantee that is to ban children because they might see other adults off their heads on drink "not getting to fisitcuffs levels but ... quite brash ... lots of swearing ... lots of goading ... lots of unsuitable subject matter"

    :confused::confused::confused:

    If that's what passes for a relaxing meal in Sligo, thank feck I never moved there! :p


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 109 ✭✭Dublin Pintman


    I think all under 18's should be banned from pubs or any establishment that serves alcohol on the premises come to think of it, like restaurants etc if they sell drink

    - what do reckon? - too severe or do you agree?

    Yeah we shouldn't let children be exposed to the idea that it's normal for adults to socialise and have fun together. Better for children to grow up thinking it's normal to sit in your room all day playing computer games.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,794 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    Daledge wrote: »
    So what happens when little Timmy and his mates all turn 18 after never having stepped foot in a pub? ....

    same thing that happens at present with little virgin Timmy and his mates when they turn old enough for fornicating and have sex for the first time ;) ... or would you rather the little darlings go to the bedroom and being around whilst your having it off so they can get accustomed to things? :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,794 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    It;s not the worst idea ever expressed in AH but it's in the top three...

    cool, ... any prizes?

    EDIT: watch this space , maybe soon I will take 1st position ... (if i dont get banned first)


  • Registered Users Posts: 451 ✭✭The Red Lad


    Maybe not resteraunts as such but kids shouldn't be in pubs at anytime IMO it's no place for them.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    I wouldn't bring them into a proper drinking bar but your normal pub grub restaurant place I don't see a problem


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,794 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    Ban the pool table, ban the bacon fries and the johnny machine.

    what if the saucepan lids think the machine is a snack vending machine? ... "thats what dad told me it was when I asked him what it was as I was sipping on my fanta and eating my Tayto's !"....


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,794 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    This is the maddest, illogical argument I've heard in a long time. :rolleyes:






    You want the option of going to a quiet restaurant for a relaxed meal, and the way to guarantee that is to ban children because they might see other adults off their heads on drink "not getting to fisitcuffs levels but ... quite brash ... lots of swearing ... lots of goading ... lots of unsuitable subject matter"

    :confused::confused::confused:

    If that's what passes for a relaxing meal in Sligo, thank feck I never moved there! :p

    I know - even when I read my own posts back it confuses me too ...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,388 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    Maybe not resteraunts as such but kids shouldn't be in pubs at anytime IMO it's no place for them.

    Why not? If I want to go to a nice country pub for a drink while we're out for a family walk, and the kids can have a 7up and a bag of crisps I don't see the problem at all.

    Getting a mineral and a bag of tayto in the pub is a tradition. Now having your kids in the pub while you're in having a skinful or if there's a pub full of drinkers then that's down to the publican or parent to sort, not the government.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,794 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    Yeah we shouldn't let children be exposed to the idea that it's normal for adults to socialise and have fun together. Better for children to grow up thinking it's normal to sit in your room all day playing computer games.

    most of them would rather be sitting at home on a computer game ... so stop dragging them to a pub or restaurant and let them have fun whilst they are young! ...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,388 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    most of them would rather be sitting at home on a computer game ... so stop dragging them to a pub or restaurant and let them have fun whilst they are young! ...

    It's the great thing about tech now, I can bring them to the pub and still let them play computer games, or have a game of pool, or do a bit of both while interacting with people and learning how to behave around people in a social setting.

    Like, if I have one of my kids in the pub (once in a blue moon) it'll be for either one drink or else while watching a match. If anyone comes into the pub that's pissed or acting a dick then we leave immediately.

    Common sense is what's needed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,794 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    Jayop wrote: »
    It's the great thing about tech now, I can bring them to the pub and still let them play computer games, or have a game of pool, or do a bit of both while interacting with people and learning how to behave around people in a social setting.

    Like, if I have one of my kids in the pub (once in a blue moon) it'll be for either one drink or else while watching a match. If anyone comes into the pub that's pissed or acting a dick then we leave immediately.

    Common sense is what's needed.

    aw that dont seem fair - through no fault of your own you are *forced* to leave when someone like that comes in? (form of bullying that is)
    what if you have only just bought your drinks and crisps and just sat down?

    Mind you its a pub so what can you expect in a pub, people who are drunk ...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    most of them would rather be sitting at home on a computer game ... so stop dragging them to a pub or restaurant and let them have fun whilst they are young! ...

    I don't know why I reply but anyway.

    While sitting in a pub is feck all fun for a child, heading out for family meals, etc can be. I certainly won't be letting my little fella sit in playing computer games all the time.

    This thread is just an "Andy's random ideas thread". There's no thought behind them, its all just blurted out with very little reasoning behind any of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    aw that dont seem fair - through no fault of your own you are *forced* to leave when someone like that comes in? (form of bullying that is)
    what if you have only just bought your drinks and crisps and just sat down?

    Mind you its a pub so what can you expect in a pub, people who are drunk ...

    Bullying!? You need to get a grip of yourself, Andy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,794 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    I read a few posts up that McDonalds in other countries they have started selling beer, what the hell! - its not going to happen over here in Ireland is it? (or has it happened already? how about up in Dublin or other big cities , they dont sell beer do they? - hope not , and long may it remain like that!)
    Have enough of rowdy customers in McD's when they are angry if they have run out of mc flurry flavour the customer wanted .. let alone adding beer into the equation..


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,794 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    KERSPLAT! wrote: »
    Bullying!? You need to get a grip of yourself, Andy.

    ok , I didnt mean it - but I guess I must of forgot the smiley. ... still dont think its fair that people have to move because a drunk came in or people acting the eejits to the annoyance of other customers


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    KERSPLAT! wrote:
    This thread is just an "Andy's random ideas thread". There's no thought behind them, its all just blurted out with very little reasoning behind any of it.


    It is AH though tbf.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,187 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    I read a few posts up that McDonalds in other countries they have started selling beer, what the hell! - its not going to happen over here in Ireland is it? (or has it happened already? how about up in Dublin or other big cities , they dont sell beer do they? - hope not , and long may it remain like that!)
    Have enough of rowdy customers in McD's when they are angry if they have run out of mc flurry flavour the customer wanted .. let alone adding beer into the equation..

    McDonald's and Burger King in Europe have been selling alcohol for years. I definitely remember it in France and The Netherlands 10+ years ago. Newsflash- most people are able to enjoy one beer with a meal without getting drunk!

    Thinking that children shouldn't be allowed in restaurants because people are drinking is indicative of Ireland's level of alcohol consumption and the attitudes towards it. If you suggested the same in France they'd think you were crazy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,985 ✭✭✭mikeym


    When I was a kid I had to sit in the Smokey Pub and I was given a Bag of Cheese & Onion Tayto and a Coke.

    Some would call that child neglect these days :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Have enough of rowdy customers in McD's when they are angry if they have run out of mc flurry flavour the customer wanted .. let alone adding beer into the equation..

    Where the f*ck are you going to these McDonald's?! Is this whole shtick a parody or what?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,792 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    I read a few posts up that McDonalds in other countries they have started selling beer ...

    Emm, yeah - since at least the 90s! :D That's a whole generation of parents that have grown up with the idea that it's okay to drink beer and raise children in the same place!

    FWIW, to get a liquour licence here in France for a public event, you write a note to the mayor saying "I plan to serve booze from 8pm until 3am on the night of the 26th-27th April." That's it. If he doesn't object within the cooling-off period, you're good to go and open your doors to any adult or child that wants to have a good time.

    And d'you know what? People bring their children, everyone has a good time, and the money gets spent on craft beer, Orangina and chocolate cake, instead of babysitters. :p

    Ireland has a messed-up relationship with drink, and decades of The Pledge, the Pioneers, throwing children out of GAA halls at 9pm, no booze on Good Friday and all that carry-on hasn't made the slightest bit of difference. Neither will minimum pricing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,794 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    seen me bank manager today - he likes the idea of my alcohol free family pub. Told him about the great selection of zero alcohol beers and drinks I am going to sell and I am even going to see alcohol free cocktails .. and even the kids can have them. Will make them feel very grown up!

    No food is going to be sold on the premises (unless you class Tayto's , Pork Scratchings, scampi fries etc as food)

    draught Coke (the black stuff) 7-up, fanta and mi-wadi will be available on tap at the bar ....

    There will be a 56" colour TV on the wall, and thinking of getting in live family friendly bands for entertainment . .


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭Jack the Stripper


    Jesus wept.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,187 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    seen me bank manager today - he likes the idea of my alcohol free family pub. Told him about the great selection of zero alcohol beers and drinks I am going to sell and I am even going to see alcohol free cocktails .. and even the kids can have them. Will make them feel very grown up!

    No food is going to be sold on the premises (unless you class Tayto's , Pork Scratchings, scampi fries etc as food)

    draught Coke (the black stuff) 7-up, fanta and mi-wadi will be available on tap at the bar ....

    There will be a 56" colour TV on the wall, and thinking of getting in live family friendly bands for entertainment . .

    Ah come on now. The premise of this thread is that kids being in the same room as people drinking alcohol is bad. But giving them fake cocktails in a fake pub so they can feel "grown up" is ok and isn't giving them a message about alcohol? Not to mention the sugary soft drinks on offer :eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,794 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    just filling a space in the market .

    is sugary drinks more harmful than alcohol?

    anyway I am going to have coke zero and other sugar free stuff on offer too ... I suppose now people will pick at that and say aspartame and artificial sweeteners causes cancer . I cant win :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭Barry Badrinath


    I cant win :)

    You can.............stop posting shyte


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,794 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    You can.............stop posting shyte

    :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,554 ✭✭✭Pat Mustard


    seen me bank manager today - he likes the idea of my alcohol free family pub. Told him about the great selection of zero alcohol beers and drinks I am going to sell and I am even going to see alcohol free cocktails .. and even the kids can have them. Will make them feel very grown up!

    No food is going to be sold on the premises (unless you class Tayto's , Pork Scratchings, scampi fries etc as food)

    draught Coke (the black stuff) 7-up, fanta and mi-wadi will be available on tap at the bar ....

    There will be a 56" colour TV on the wall, and thinking of getting in live family friendly bands for entertainment . .

    The meeting with the bank manager in two photos:

    latest?cb=20160103065223

    picard-facepalm.jpg?fit=275%2C183


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,794 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    The meeting with the bank manager in two photos:

    latest?cb=20160103065223

    picard-facepalm.jpg?fit=275%2C183

    I could use that barney fella at the top to deliver the drinks to the tables...

    The fella in the bottom one is doing the same action my mrs does when I start coming up with a new idea ...

    think I better stop posting shyte now because i can feel some AH members slowly going mad and needing therapy very soon :)


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