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Substantial Refurbishment Criteria

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    #62
    gizmo81
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭gizmo81


    That's what I was thinking but the RTB were saying otherwise, that the three properties thing is valid.


    jamesthepeach wrote: »
    There is no such thing as market rent in an rpz.


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    #63
    jamesthepeach
    Registered Users Posts: 992 ✭✭✭jamesthepeach


    gizmo81 wrote: »
    That's what I was thinking but the RTB were saying otherwise, that the three properties thing is valid.

    More rubbish pulled out of their holes.
    How can there be market rent if it is remt controlled at different levels for everybody.

    If the ipoa had any nuts they would ask for funding and destroy these shisters.


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    #64
    The_Conductor
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,285 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    I'm not entirely sure why they're running scared.
    The legislation is full of holes, very probably unconstitutional on 4 different grounds (which the Minister himself has acknowledged, but says as the RPZ and other measures are only 'temporary' in nature, he can get around constitutional property protections)- and the body charged with policing this- is hopeless for both tenants and landlords.

    Its a goddamn mess- and the only proposals are to heap additional misery on both tenants and landlords.


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    #65
    GGTrek
    Registered Users Posts: 834 ✭✭✭GGTrek


    gizmo81 wrote: »
    That's what I was thinking but the RTB were saying otherwise, that the three properties thing is valid.


    jamesthepeach wrote: »
    There is no such thing as market rent in an rpz.

    Yes it is still valid in a RPZ. For a RPZ rent review you have first to show the calculation and then show that the rent calculated with the RPZ rules is still lower than 3 equivalent properties and then present proof of the three equivalent properties rent amounts: on average 8 pages of red tape in double copy, every page dated and signed to make sure that the tenant does not try to be smart. It is a massive amount of administration work, there is a separate thread showing that one big letting agent is abandoning the business because of all the cost of red tape. Irish govvie loves red tape, since this is usually the only thig their bureaucrats can produce.


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    #66
    mrslancaster
    Registered Users Posts: 1,813 ✭✭✭mrslancaster


    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/nctstyle-test-for-rental-properties-35812809.html

    -- maybe this is the future for all rental properties here but then again maybe this is the norm in other countries...anyone know?


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    #67
    GGTrek
    Registered Users Posts: 834 ✭✭✭GGTrek


    mrslancaster wrote: »
    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/nctstyle-test-for-rental-properties-35812809.html

    -- maybe this is the future for all rental properties here but then again maybe this is the norm in other countries...anyone know?
    This is other misery heaped over landlords and tenants. It will block the market completely. The DCC does not have the manpower and the skills (neither legal, nor technical) to inspect every rented property. Imagine the months long queues that would form in order to get the clearance certificate, who pays for the certificate?
    Many DCC health officers inspectors are just office penpushers, they do not even know how the law should be applied (most are not building surveyors!). To give you an example, the RTA 2015 introduced a rent deposit protection scheme administered by the RTB, do you know why it is not yet running? Because the RTB has neither the manpower nor the skills to administer anything!


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    #68
    Bigmac1euro
    Registered Users Posts: 1,466 ✭✭✭Bigmac1euro


    Would replacing carpet in hall, stairs and landing, New carpets in dining and living room.
    Painting the whole house and refitting a new bath with new tiles on the wall, spending about 6k in total count as a substantial refurbishment ?


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    #69
    The_Conductor
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,285 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    Bigmac1euro wrote: »
    Would replacing carpet in hall, stairs and landing, New carpets in dining and living room.
    Painting the whole house and refitting a new bath with new tiles on the wall, spending about 6k in total count as a substantial refurbishment ?

    Not a snowballs chance in hell.
    You need a major refurbishment- possibly changing the structure of character of the property- in order for it to merit consideration under the Act. A new bathroom or kitchen, carpets- or painting- would 100% definitely not qualify.


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    #70
    Bigmac1euro
    Registered Users Posts: 1,466 ✭✭✭Bigmac1euro


    The_Conductor wrote: »
    Not a snowballs chance in hell.
    You need a major refurbishment- possibly changing the structure of character of the property- in order for it to merit consideration under the Act. A new bathroom or kitchen, carpets- or painting- would 100% definitely not qualify.

    That's music to my ears thanks!


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