Would you kill an intruder if you were guaranteed to get away scot free?

Wanderer2010

Had a lively discussion with some friends lately saying that if they had a gun and happened across an intruder in their house they would pull the trigger no questions asked, its them or me.
But really, could you kill an intruder if you had the means or is that standpoint often just bravado especially for men?
If for the sake of argument you had a choice between killing them and getting away with it or restraining them and handing them over to the cops, what would you do?

Erik Shin

100% yes, and would sleep peacefully at night.

Teddington Cuddlesworth

Top of the stairs, stark naked, with a cross bow.
Wouldn't think twice.

Slydice

like someone desperate breaking to steal food because the homeless situation is going mad

or

some evil rich villain trying to find my man-drawer to steal all my cool stuff?

Donald Trump

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

Had a lively discussion with some friends lately saying that if they had a gun and happened across  an intruder in their house they would pull the trigger no questions asked, its them or me.
But really, could you kill an intruder if you had the means or is that standpoint often just bravado especially for men?
If for the sake of argument you had a choice between killing them and getting away with it or restraining them and handing them over to the cops, what would you do?

Is that you Padraig Nally?

Ulysses Gaze

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

Had a lively discussion with some friends lately saying that if they had a gun and happened across an intruder in their house they would pull the trigger no questions asked, its them or me.
But really, could you kill an intruder if you had the means or is that standpoint often just bravado especially for men?
If for the sake of argument you had a choice between killing them and getting away with it or restraining them and handing them over to the cops, what would you do?

If they had any type of weapon in their hands, I'd gun them down without any remorse.

Bubbaclaus

I wouldn't think twice. Their own fault for breaking the law.

RayM

Not a chance. I don't own anything worth taking someone's life for.

Donald Trump

Teddington Cuddlesworth wrote: »

Top of the stairs, stark naked, with a cross bow.
Wouldn't think twice.

So what would be your preferred order of preparation in the event the intruder makes an entrance?

Finding the cross-bow or getting your kit off?

In fairness, the getting naked bit probably isn't necessary in practice, but hey, whatever floats your boat

snowflaker

No. Death for b&e is a very harsh punishment

Ulysses Gaze

RayM wrote: »

Not a chance. I don't own anything worth taking someone's life for.

Your own life?

Erik Shin

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Your own life?

Like he said... nothing worth taking

Tilikum

100% yes

RayM

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Your own life?

The average intruder doesn't want to kill you; they just want your stuff. If your life is under threat, that's a completely different question.

Elemonator

It's just a standpoint of bravado for most people and they know it. I'm not a psychopath so no, I wouldn't kill them unless they had intentions of killing me or family/friend in the house. Unless that intruder was intent on physically harming someone in the house, I would likely hold him at gunpoint and call the guards. If you were to shoot an intruder who's sole intent was just to steal your paintings etc. and you kill them for it, then you are far worse than them. It is far from reasonable in fact. I'd actually recommend checking out DPP cases to see what happens to those who go far beyond reasonable force.

Beyondgone

Bang bang. One shot and it'd be all over for them.

If I had a gun.

Sadly I don't, so I'd probably just shout loudly and try to make my fur stand on end to appear bigger.

Teddington Cuddlesworth

Donald Trump wrote: »

So what would be your preferred order of preparation in the event the intruder makes an entrance?

Finding the cross-bow or getting your kit off?

In fairness, the getting naked bit probably isn't necessary in practice, but hey, whatever floats your boat

Getting naked is 33% of my defense plan. I'd be just another nutter with a cross bow if I was wearing any clothes.

It adds to the image too, no one wants to see a naked man with a cross bow.

frozenfrozen

think of the mess it would make

snowflaker

Teddington Cuddlesworth wrote: »

Getting naked is 33% of my defense plan. I'd be just another nutter with a cross bow if I was wearing any clothes.

It adds to the image too, no one wants to see a naked man with a cross bow.

I'm sure someone has a fetish for it, probably a German

4Ad

Yep..
I have a golf club under the bed..
I"d give it to them between the eyes...
Having said that anytime the alarm does go off I panic and run around in circles..

snowflaker

Beyondgone wrote: »

Bang bang. One shot and it'd be all over for them.

If I had a gun.

Sadly I don't, so I'd probably just shout loudly and try to make my fur stand on end to appear bigger.

Would you be naked too???

OU812

Beyondgone wrote: »

Bang bang. One shot and it'd be all over for them.

If I had a gun.

Sadly I don't, so I'd probably just shout loudly and try to make my fur stand on end to appear bigger.

That's two shots.

Proper procedure is to shoot them first, then shout loudly "Stop or I'll shoot", then fire a second shot into the ceiling.

Forensics isn't going to know the order of the shots and to any witness, you warned them fairly in advance.

gifted

There was a time when I would have said yes...but I don't think I would....taking a life?...think about it for a minute...it's a life...so I wouldn't.

Wanderer2010

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

...... is that standpoint often just bravado especially for men?.............

Well you know your friends more than us :pac:
They sound full of sh1t to me.

A mate of mine maintains he has a golf club just in case, now in a hall or landing I reckon a gold club is a useless weapon as there's little space to swing it........... the same chap has never been in a fight & is built like a box of matches.

Allah snackbar

Naked with a horn , changes the whole dynamic of the situation

Beyondgone

snowflaker wrote: »

Would you be naked too???

Pffft. Newb question! Of course. How else would they see my standey-uppey fur??

shamrock55

Depends,if they are just cming in for a tv or playstation then ill just pound the **** out of them with a bat,if they are in my kids rooms i pound them to death with said bat

snowflaker

All these nekkid nerds - intruder sue for PTSD

Beyondgone

OU812 wrote: »

That's two shots.

Proper procedure is to shoot them first, then shout loudly "Stop or I'll shoot", then fire a second shot into the ceiling.

Forensics isn't going tonnnow he order of the shots and to any witness, you warned them fairly in advance.

That was actually no shots. My engorged fur probably just confused you.

Sam Kade

4Ad wrote: »

Yep..
I have a golf club under the bed..
I"d give it to them between the eyes...
Having said that anytime the alarm does go off I panic and run around in circles then I hide under the bed

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diomed

4Ad wrote: »

Yep..
I have a golf club under the bed..
I"d give it to them between the eyes...
Having said that anytime the alarm does go off I panic and run around in circles..

Some old guy tried that once (Clontarf?)
He chased a young guy waving his golf club.
The young lad took it from him and knocked seven bells out of him.
Think it through a little, please.

snowflaker

shamrock55 wrote: »

Depends,if they are just cming in for a tv or playstation then ill just pound the **** out of them with a bat,if they are in my kids rooms i pound them to death with said bat

What if they wrestle the bat from you and pound the crap outta you???

Or are you like most boardsies with a 7th black belt in magna crav or some shyte?

Beyondgone

shamrock55 wrote: »

Depends,if they are just cming in for a tv or playstation then ill just pound the **** out of them with a bat,if they are in my kids rooms i pound them to death with said bat

Bats are tiny. You'd be waay better pounding them with something bigger like a chicken or a small goose. A small goose is probably the best option - no Jury would convict you. Or believe it happened. Do it naked as well. Add to the confusion.

snowflaker

Beyondgone wrote: »

Bats are tiny. You'd be waay better pounding them with something bigger like a chicken or a small goose. A small goose is probably the best option - no Jury would convict you. Or believe it happened. Do it naked as well. Add to the confusion.

I think you'd be done for cruelty to bats- aren't they a protected species???

Beyondgone

snowflaker wrote: »

I think you'd be done for cruelty to bats- aren't they a protected species???

Absolutely. Hence the goose. No one cares about geese. Bats have powerful friends.

Arghus

I dunno. Like to think I wouldn't have to, but I could do it if in fear of my life or those I love. Not something I would relish the thought of to be honest.

snowflaker

Beyondgone wrote: »

Absolutely. Hence the goose. No one cares about geese. Bats have powerful friends.

Geese as web footed animals have protections too- throw a shoe!!!

pjohnson

Allah snackbar wrote: »

Naked with a horn , changes the whole dynamic of the situation

"I've been expecting you mate. Dya want to be the little spoon or the little spoon laddie?"

Erik Shin

diomed wrote: »

Some old guy tried that once (Clontarf?)
He chased a young guy waving his golf club.
The young lad took it from him and knocked seven bells out of him.
Think it through a little, please.

Don't let him take it from you

snowflaker

pjohnson wrote: »

"I've been expecting you mate. Dya want to be the little spoon or the little spoon laddie?"

The fork obv, what's the horn for!!!

shamrock55

snowflaker wrote: »

What if they wrestle the bat from you and pound the crap outta you???

Or are you like most boardsies with a 7th black belt in magna crav or some shyte?

Lets just say id be fairly confidant that wouldnt happen

Eoinbmw

Golf club is a bad choice cant realy swing it in a house!
Hatchet, hammer,wheelbrace or iron bar is what you need!

Beyondgone

Erik Shin wrote: »

Don't let him take it from you

No one ever "lets" them take it. They take it. They've no manners these burglar types. The beauty of the goose is they have 2 handles legs, so you can get a fantastic grip. If it's a live goose, the noise of their honking would add to the effect.

RayM

Beyondgone wrote: »

Bats are tiny. You'd be waay better pounding them with something bigger like a chicken or a small goose. A small goose is probably the best option - no Jury would convict you. Or believe it happened. Do it naked as well. Add to the confusion.

And for added confusion, keep chanting the names of the Irish 1990 World Cup squad (including the backroom staff, like Maurice Setters and Mick Byrne) while you beat them. It wouldn't even make it to court.

wakka12

I would never kill somebody unless it was absolutely necessary, ie. they were threatening my life/had a deadly weapon

pjohnson

Beyondgone wrote: »

No one ever "lets" them take it. They take it. They've no manners these burglar types. The beauty of the goose is they have 2 handles legs, so you can get a fantastic grip. If it's a live goose, the noise of their honking would add to the effect.

"Between you're goose honking and my horn making sweet jungle music we'll give that intruder the time of his life."

Samuel T. Cogley

Strike first and strike hard. Defence and the Dwelling Act

Erik Shin

wakka12 wrote: »

I would never kill somebody unless it was absolutely necessary, ie. they were threatening my life/had a deadly weapon

Does your man standing at the top of the stairs with the horn count?

Beyondgone

Teddington Cuddlesworth wrote: »

Getting naked is 33% of my defense plan. I'd be just another nutter with a cross bow if I was wearing any clothes.

It adds to the image too, no one wants to see a naked man with a cross bow.

Imagine that bow was a goose. Now you've crossed from "naked and armed" to "naked and with poultry".:cool:

No one wants to mess with that sort of powerful stuff. Crossbows are so 1980's.

snowflaker

shamrock55 wrote: »

Lets just say id be fairly confidant that wouldnt happen

Oh do tell!

Archeron

Beyondgone wrote: »

Bats are tiny. You'd be waay better pounding them with something bigger like a chicken or a small goose. A small goose is probably the best option - no Jury would convict you. Or believe it happened. Do it naked as well. Add to the confusion.

I sense an episode of Murder She Wrote in the making.