Would you kill an intruder if you were guaranteed to get away scot free?

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In that situation I would do my best to disable them rather than killing them but If I did kill them I wouldn't feel too guilty about it. More than likely there would be no lights on and one would be shooting into the dark.

snowflaker

MonkieSocks wrote: »

Last nigh I shot an Byrgler in my Pajamas.



How he got into my Pajamas I'll never know :rolleyes:

A what???

snowflaker

Jack the Stripper wrote: »

I will kill any intruder full stop. Why should anyone be living in fear, I sleep with the gun by the bed loaded.

What if you accidentally discharge it and kill your girlfriend in the toilet? In court you wouldn't have a leg to stand on!

Beyondgone

snowflaker wrote: »

You could write a charity single with the McCanns

My kids are 6'5" and hairy. I'm not sweating someone abducting them all that much. They'd bring them back when they saw how much they eat.

snowflaker

Beyondgone wrote: »

My kids are 6'5" and hairy. I'm not sweating someone abducting them all that much. They'd bring them back when they saw how much they eat.

Your daughter is 6'5" and hairy? A catch!

Beyondgone

snowflaker wrote: »

Your daughter is 6'5" and hairy? A catch!

I keep telling her to shave.

MonkieSocks

snowflaker wrote: »

A what???

Ya Know, a Byrgler: Pyrson who Byrglers peoples abodes.

snowflaker

Beyondgone wrote: »

I keep telling her to shave.

I think that's breaching her personal space tbf

Erik Shin

Beyondgone wrote: »

My kids are 6'5" and hairy. I'm not sweating someone abducting them all that much. They'd bring them back when they saw how much they eat.

And that's just the twin girls...you should see his sons ffs​!

Erik Shin

MonkieSocks wrote: »

Last nigh I shot an Byrgler in my Pajamas.



How he got into my Pajamas I'll never know :rolleyes:

Must have been a turd byrgler

snowflaker

Erik Shin wrote: »

And that's just the twin girls...you should see his sons ffs​!

How many people live in this apartment that sleeps 3!

Beyondgone

Erik Shin wrote: »

And that's just the twin girls...you should see his sons ffs​!

Whose sons? You leave my big hairy daughters alone. You're bullying us. Ya big bully.

Erik Shin

snowflaker wrote: »

How many people like in this apartment that sleeps 3!

Think it's beyondgone-boy Walton's place.... probably 23 of them

MonkieSocks

Erik Shin wrote: »

Must have been a turd byrgler

Probably.

Those Cunce will rob any oul Sh1te

Beyondgone

This has descended into the gicker. It started out so well too. These sort of threads always bring out the worst in people. I blame the geese.

Erik Shin

Tell ya what.....any career burglar reading this thread is definitely taking tonight off!!

Eimee90

Breaking and Entry is one of the cruellest things criminals can do to people. it can mentally break people and leave them terrified in their own homes. I come from a rural area and elderly people are terrified of this happening to them. They are scumbags of the highest order, I'd have no interest in their wellbeing to be perfectly honest.

pablo128

Erik Shin wrote: »

Tell ya what.....any career burglar reading this thread is definitely taking tonight off!!

Nope,I'd say they are terrorising old people who haven't the strength to fight back. Some of the carry on is sickening, tying old people to their kitchen chair and beating lumps out of them for their pension money.

Utter scum.

Mysterypunter

No. I would kill a bully boy or a scumbag, even if I wasn't going to get away, lots of loudmouth idiot's about, you can't take on the world. I would serve a hundred years if I needed to kill someone. Probably never happen though

The Backwards Man

elsa21 wrote: »

Breaking and Entry is one of the cruellest things criminals can do to people. it can mentally break people and leave them terrified in their own homes. I come from a rural area and elderly people are terrified of this happening to them. They are scumbags of the highest order, I'd have no interest in their wellbeing to be perfectly honest.

It sure is. Scum of the earth are the cnuts that do that, and sympathy is the last thing I'd have for them. But until you've actually taken someone's life yourself you'll never know how ****ty that feels. No matter who they are.

Beyondgone

Mysterypunter wrote: »

No. I would kill a bully boy or a scumbag, even if I wasn't going to get away, lots of loudmouth idiot's about, you can't take on the world. I would serve a hundred years if I needed to kill someone. Probably never happen though

Oddly, I believe you.

walks away slowly..

foxy farmer

My grandmother always believed gurriers needed a "dawk". A bit like this.

Noodles81

Apart from guffawing with laughter at some of the posts...(who'd have thought such a thread would be so entertaining!) the best point I heard is the pitch fork under the bed. I'm actually going to use that...such a good idea.

About the morality of killing, you would be doing it out of fear, not like a planned thing. The fact that you know this and were protecting your family/ dog etc would salve the conscience I'd imagine.

the_syco

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

If for the sake of argument you had a choice between killing them and getting away with it or restraining them and handing them over to the cops, what would you do?

If the choice is between killing them, and allowing them to try again, my answer is; what intruder, officer?

jackofalltrades

The Backwards Man wrote: »

It sure is. Scum of the earth are the cnuts that do that, and sympathy is the last thing I'd have for them.
But until you've actually taken someone's life yourself you'll never know how ****ty that feels. No matter who they are.

Are you speaking from experience?

Yes killing someone probably isn't going to make you feel great.
But you're probably not going to feel that great after having your house broken into.
Or after you've been beaten up, tortured or raped.
You''ll probably feel doubly bad if any of the above happens to your loved ones.
There's no happy ending, so you may as well pick the one that leads to the best outcome for you and your loved ones.

We're talking hardened criminals, in groups with tools/weapons.
If you're in a confrontation it's because they haven't left and aren't bothered by a fight.
Presuming you can't retreat it's you or them.
Strike hard and fast, because they're not going to miss any sleep kicking your head in.

Junkyard Tom

I've chased a would-be burglar with a golf club once. Truth be told I only wanted to frighten the shit out of him and probably wouldn't have hit him with the club unless I felt threatened. Judging by the speed of his escape he was pretty scared. If I had a gun I'd much rather frighten someone off with a couple of badly aimed shots than actually use it.

suicide_circus

I wouldnt actively try to kill them but if they died in the process of me chasing them out then so be it

Bandana boy

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

I've chased a would-be burglar with a golf club once. Truth be told I only wanted to frighten the shit out of him and probably wouldn't have hit him with the club unless I felt threatened. Judging by the speed of his escape he was pretty scared. If I had a gun I'd much rather frighten someone off with a couple of badly aimed shots than actually use it.

When you fire a gun the bullet has go somewhere , If your going to fire a gun , center mass of the target . You will get over that quicker than finding your stray bullet hit an innocent person.

JaCrispy

RayM wrote: »

The average intruder doesn't want to kill you; they just want your stuff.

So ask the intruder if they are the "average intruder" before you decide of you want to kill them?

Samuel T. Cogley

foxy farmer wrote: »

My grandmother always believed gurriers needed a "dawk". A bit like this.

Thanks so much for that. You might have noted it wasn't safe for work.

sbsquarepants

If you break into someones house - you deserve whatever you get as far as I'm concerned. I catch someone in my house - god fúcking help them, I will go full on medieval on them!

gramar

Allah snackbar wrote: »

Naked with a horn , changes the whole dynamic of the situation

Would you beat them to death with your horn?

hurler32

Its only a matter of time before someone shots a burglar in Rural Ireland....most areas at breaking point ...

Samuel T. Cogley

hurler32 wrote: »

Its only a matter of time before someone shots a burglar in Rural Ireland....most areas at breaking point ...

That time was 12 odd years ago.

Manic Moran

Strong Life in Dublin wrote: »

Mostly keyboard warriors, they would proably **** themselfvs if their home was really broken into....myself included

Being scared doesn't prevent someone from acting. I say this as a veteran of more than one firefight.

Fiancee woke me up (Actually, thumped me up, I'm a heavy sleeper) two nights ago, convinced someone was in the house. You'd better believe I was nervous as I checked things out. But neither was I going to let that stop me using my pistol.

I think the question is fundamentally flawed. If you knew you were going to get away scot free then there would be some level of premeditation involved. When someone kills someone in self-defense its nearly always a reactionary action. You don't stop and think "I'll get away with it" before blowing someone away. Self-defense cases hinge on the homeowner being so scared that they don't consider their actions before doing them.

Very true.

Bandana boy wrote: »

When you fire a gun the bullet has go somewhere , If your going to fire a gun , center mass of the target . You will get over that quicker than finding your stray bullet hit an innocent person.

Also a valid point. For this reason, not only are warning shots not recommended in the US, they are often explicitly prohibited, particularly to the authorities. Discharge of a firearm is use of lethal force: That force may not be applied to direction you had intended, so the situation had better merit pulling the trigger. If it merits pulling the trigger, it merits aiming center mass.

This guy was in the news last month.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/no-charges-against-oklahoma-man-who-killed-3-intruders/

The getaway driver has been charged with the murder of the three lads who broke in. The grandfather of one of the deceased said it was unfair.

http://ktul.com/news/local/family-member-of-teen-burglary-suspect-killed-in-wagoner-county-break-in-speaks-out

After all, the three guys only had knuckle dusters and knives. The resident had an AR-15.

I get he's distraught, but the statement is idiotic.

The Specialist

Love the reaction of some pussies here doubting that people would actually murder someone to protect their family "cos internet". Exactly the type of weak spined ***** who would probably hide under the covers while their wife goes to check on the noise.

Bruthal

Donald Trump wrote: »

So what would be your preferred order of preparation in the event the intruder makes an entrance?

I read that wrong for a second

Beyondgone

The Specialist wrote: »

Love the reaction of some pussies here doubting that people would actually murder someone to protect their family "cos internet". Exactly the type of weak spined ***** who would probably hide under the covers while their wife goes to check on the noise.

Meh, I'm not doubting the will or want to kill 'em, I'm just a bit dubious about the "able to". Everyone says "I'd kill to protect my family" - it's kinda a given. Being strong/fast enough/awake enough/not tripping over your clothes/shoes/the cat/the wife on your way to "go gettem" is the issue.. then there's the whole "Oh look, it isn't the one ickle, sickly burglar, it's four of them...and they're quite hardy bucks as well.." factor.

Me personally, I'd give it a good lash, but I'm pushing on a bit now and am under Nooo illusions that much as I might still be Rambos best mate and sparring partner in my own mind, chances are 50:50 I'm gonna get seven-shades of shyte kicked out of me while attempting to terminate "The lads" using some household crap I manage to pick up en-route.

The Specialist

Beyondgone wrote: »

Meh, I'm not doubting the will or want to kill 'em, I'm just a bit dubious about the "able to". Everyone says "I'd kill to protect my family" - it's kinda a given. Being strong/fast enough/awake enough/not tripping over your clothes/shoes/the cat/the wife on your way to "go gettem" is the issue.. then there's the whole "Oh look, it isn't the one ickle, sickly burglar, it's four of them...and they're quite hardy bucks as well.." factor.

Me personally, I'd give it a good lash, but I'm pushing on a bit now and am under Nooo illusions that much as I might still be Rambos best mate and sparring partner in my own mind, chances are 50:50 I'm gonna get seven-shades of shyte kicked out of me while attempting to terminate "The lads" using some household crap I manage to pick up en-route.

That is why you should keep something capable of inflicting serious harm close to the bed (personally have a 12 inch blade to hand). I don't give a **** if it's 4 burly fellas in the house, 2 or 3 of them are getting it straight in to the heart.

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SEPT 23 1989

I won't attack somebody over trying to steal lumps of metal or plastic but if I find somebody wandering around upstairs near my wife and children all bets are off

Berserker

One of the reasons why I would like to see guns being made more freely available in Ireland. The thought of getting shot would make the little tramps think twice about breaking into your home.

Augme

Good to see so many internet hard men on the internet.

Beyondgone

Augme wrote: »

Good to see so many internet hard men on the internet.

If I didn't know so many crims, as "nodding hello acquaintances", who spend all day every day in the gym/ring/on steroids, I'd be convinced the burglars were all doomed.

As a matter of fact, I know a couple of bad-eggs who, in a fight, if I had a gun and they didn't, I wouldn't be even 30-70 convinced I'd be the one telling people about what happened, afterwards. Shooting them would only pi55 them off. A few foreign lads I know, who wouldn't be the best citizens, I wouldn't be 100% confident it would be 50-50 if they were across a field, in their jocks, unarmed and barefoot, headed for me - and I had a machine gun. I'd give it a lash, but I'd be expecting to be in the A&E for a while having a large automatic firearm removed from my back-passage and most of my bones re-set. I think people lack perspective. I blame the internet. And films.

Erik Shin

Augme wrote: »

Good to see so many internet hard men on the internet.

It's our last refuge since they closed down the video arcades...now we try to reenact Street fighter scenes upon home invaders!

Jesus Wept

Beyondgone wrote: »

Bang bang. One shot and it'd be all over for them.

If I had a gun.

Sadly I don't, so I'd probably just shout loudly and try to make my fur stand on end to appear bigger.

Sure we'd all be safer if we had loads more guns.

foxy farmer

Berserker wrote: »

One of the reasons why I would like to see guns being made more freely available in Ireland. The thought of getting shot would make the little tramps think twice about breaking into your home.

Its actually getting harder to own a firearm in this country. Lads over on hunting and shooting forum will tell you that.
In this country a gun can only be used for vermin control game hunting or target shooting. There's strict criteria set down by the gardai to prevent nutters owning guns.

Lau2976

Yes

Ex broke into my house with a crowbar before and tried to attack me with it. I pretty much froze and have the scar to show for it. I wouldn't make that mistake again.

Beyondgone

foxy farmer wrote: »

Its actually getting harder to own a firearm in this country. Lads over on hunting and shooting forum will tell you that.
In this country a gun can only be used for vermin control game hunting or target shooting. There's strict criteria set down by the gardai to prevent nuttersnormal people owning guns.

FYP. The crims, I'm sad to inform you, don't have to ask the Super for permission to have one. They just hand over €500 in a pub car-park. Gun licencing is irrelevant if you're a crim. It's only relevant if you're the type who taxes your car and recycles stuff. If I want an unlicenced automatic pistol, I can have one within 30 minutes. If I want one all licenced and stuff, it could take years, or even never. People need to be aware of this point of utter nonsense. Gun licensing only affects law-abiding people. Same as drivers licencing. If you think otherwise, you're Beyond delusional.

eurasian

No i would not kill anyone. And completely against this idea of having a gun.