Tips on Fat and Weight Loss Please

Zillah

DisneyLover wrote: »

No, I had an eating disorder for years. I know calories for every food - Anyone who had a bad ED knows them inside out.

An eating disorder doesn't give you super powers. You will never make progress if you're not willing to consider changes in your approach. All the threads in the world won't help if you won't listen to advice.

GeorgeStobort

Day Lewin wrote: »

Hi, Disney-Lover:

May I offer an alternative view?

Is it possible, that your food, exercise, height and size are now in balance - neither gaining nor losing - you may be already at your optimum weight; and if healthy and strong, maybe you could turn your attention away from this topic?

Believe me, I mean no disrespect. But if you had an eating disorder, as you say, you might be giving this whole subject more attention than it deserves or needs. Maybe you are a sensible weight already, and just stay that way.

Are you in good health? Active, energetic, busy, cheerful, not sick or exhausted? Because that's how people are meant to be. And we all come in different sizes, quite naturally.

Best of luck with it, anyway. :-)

Going on 17 stone is not a healthy weight for any women and I know she's tall . It's not a healthy weight for most men

Day Lewin

GeorgeStobort wrote: »

Going on 17 stone is not a healthy weight for any women and I know she's tall . It's not a healthy weight for most men

OK, fair enough, I'd missed that actual figure. Yes, that's a bit of a weight to carry right enough.

DisneyLover

Tiddlypeeps wrote: »

That's a pretty big range. 2,200 is probably pretty close to maintenance for you. Especially since you are eyeballing your food measurements the 1,700 to 2,200 everyday could easily average a good bit over 2,000 a day which is too high to be expecting much weight loss at all. I'd aim to stay under 1,700 every day and see how that goes.

No its not though. Im 5'11 and 16 stone 10 lbs and Im active so its not, 2200 was recommended for weight loss and 1900 was recommended for losing 2 lbs a week

DisneyLover

Day Lewin wrote: »

OK, fair enough, I'd missed that actual figure. Yes, that's a bit of a weight to carry right enough.

Yeah like I hate being this weight. Im in a size 18-20 and tshirt size 16-18. Im uncomfortable in my size. Being my height its ok but a healthy weight for me is 11 and a half to around 13 stone.

DisneyLover

everlast75 wrote: »

Take one week where you diary everything and I mean everything. Weigh your food where sized portions are being eaten.

Download myfitnesspal app. You can barcode any food and input your daily food and drink.

Be honest and make your week your "typical" routine. Don't be good just because you are entering everything.

Let us know what the results are.

Once there is a calory deficit you have to be on the right track.

Ok will do. I always have a deficit though.

DisneyLover

notjustsweet wrote: »

I didn't suggest allergy testing!
You need to go and see your gp and get thyroid testing done and anything else they see fit.
A dietitian isn't a doctor, you need to see the gp.
Edit to add I have autoimmune underactive thyroid, like you I struggled with diet and exercise until I was so stressed I was constantly in tears. Once I was diagnosed and medicated I lost 4 stone in a year
With thyroid issues your body has no metabolism so no diet or exercise makes a difference until it's sorted.

Are you reluctant to weigh your food because of your previous issues or because you feel you know the weights?

Thanks ! I suffer a lot from stomach pains. I know a doc that looks after stomach pains with acupuncture, he's also a dietician. Might pay him a visit

njs030

DisneyLover wrote: »

Thanks ! I suffer a lot from stomach pains. I know a doc that looks after stomach pains with acupuncture, he's also a dietician. Might pay him a visit

A medical doctor?

Alf Veedersane

DisneyLover wrote: »

Ok will do. I always have a deficit though.

Based on eyeballing quantities rather than weighing. It's not accurate. If I'm a little above the weight I need to be for a competition, I need to weigh and count EVERYTHING I eat and drink to drop the excess. Everything.

If I don't drop the weight, I drop the calories again until I do.

But it needs to be accurate.

MadamRazz

notjustsweet wrote:

I didn't suggest allergy testing! You need to go and see your gp and get thyroid testing done and anything else they see fit. A dietitian isn't a doctor, you need to see the gp. Edit to add I have autoimmune underactive thyroid, like you I struggled with diet and exercise until I was so stressed I was constantly in tears. Once I was diagnosed and medicated I lost 4 stone in a year With thyroid issues your body has no metabolism so no diet or exercise makes a difference until it's sorted.

I would second getting your thryoid tested. And maybe even PCOS. That can cause you to hold on to weight if not treated possibly. Speaking from experience in both cases.
I would also cut out sugar as much as possible. It will be hard but it will make a massive difference. And drinking more water, cliche I know but its true.
All of these things have really helped me. Good luck!

learn_more

DisneyLover wrote: »

I've posted here before, I'm ok now with food, have that down and know what I'm doing.

But my workouts aren't making a difference at all.

I'm walking 5'000-15'000 everyday. I'm going on my exercise bike (its a 'proper' Reebok one) 25-45 mins 4 days a week.

I'm using a 5kg kettle bell and dumbbells for 20 mins 4 days a week, changing the muscle groups used daily.

Is this making me gain rather than lose fat ? Should I be doing stuff like jumping jacks (hate them lol) more ?

Going away in 9 weeks. I hate the sun ! Want to lose at least 8 pounds by then but nothing is budging !

I'm female, 24, 5 foot 11 and 16 stone 10 lbs. It should be coming off me ! Do you think I need to go to a specialist ? Can IBS and allergies really stall weight loss?

It sounds to me your strategy is to 'burn off' excess calories.

You are completely over estimating how much calories you are using up. You think all this activity is enough but it plainly isn't.

Your kettle bell activity hardly burns any calories at all. You could eat in one meal the amount you'd burn up in a whole week of this activity.

The quality of your proper Reebok bike is completely irrelevant to how much you sweat and burn and push yourself on it.

As previous posters have said, watch you diet. It's much easier to restrict calorific intake than it is to burn it off once you've consumed them.

DisneyLover

learn_more wrote: »

It sounds to me your strategy is to 'burn off' excess calories.

You are completely over estimating how much calories you are using up. You think all this activity is enough but it plainly isn't.

Your kettle bell activity hardly burns any calories at all. You could eat in one meal the amount you'd burn up in a whole week of this activity.

The quality of your proper Reebok bike is completely irrelevant to how much you sweat and burn and push yourself on it.

As previous posters have said, watch you diet. It's much easier to restrict calorific intake than it is to burn it off once you've consumed them.

No I eat the amount of calories I need to lose weight the exercise is just for a 'bonus' to it like.

I like exercising. I used to very fit had to give up camogie and tennis because I got very bad tendonitis.

When Im on my bike I can go level 18-20 for 10 mins. Thats very high like. Ive always been very fit at any weight !

DisneyLover

MadamRazz wrote: »

I would second getting your thryoid tested. And maybe even PCOS. That can cause you to hold on to weight if not treated possibly. Speaking from experience in both cases.
I would also cut out sugar as much as possible. It will be hard but it will make a massive difference. And drinking more water, cliche I know but its true.
All of these things have really helped me. Good luck!

Did you just go to a GP and try do this ? I work in a hospital so hmm might go see someone there about my thyroid ? Ive never had a problem with sugar levels or blood pressure, all normal!

DisneyLover

notjustsweet wrote: »

A medical doctor?

He's a medical doctor yeah. Think he's the only Irish acupuncture doc who works in a hospital - Think he works in the Matter ? Also has a place atm in Donny Carney but he's moving to Howth.

DisneyLover

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Based on eyeballing quantities rather than weighing. It's not accurate. If I'm a little above the weight I need to be for a competition, I need to weigh and count EVERYTHING I eat and drink to drop the excess. Everything.

If I don't drop the weight, I drop the calories again until I do.

But it needs to be accurate.

Ok might try a weight then. I suppose youre right in terms of cereals, patients I have always think 140 calories of corn flakes is a massive bowl when really its only half !

So can I ask - When do I weigh? Before or after I cook ? I do random shifts atm so Im trying to meal prep. Do I weigh pasta before or after ? And where did you get a good scales ?

Alf Veedersane

DisneyLover wrote: »

Ok might try a weight then. I suppose youre right in terms of cereals, patients I have always think 140 calories of corn flakes is a massive bowl when really its only half !

So can I ask - When do I weigh? Before or after I cook ? I do random shifts atm so Im trying to meal prep. Do I weigh pasta before or after ? And where did you get a good scales ?

Anywhere should have one: Argos, Tesco etc. Just weigh beforehand.

It only needs to be for a couple of weeks til you can get a good appreciation of what calories are in a portion size and you'll find yourself needing to use the scale less.

Also read the nutrition stickies. I had an ED myself and I found understanding nutrition a lot better helped, amongst other things.

MadamRazz

DisneyLover wrote: »

Did you just go to a GP and try do this ? I work in a hospital so hmm might go see someone there about my thyroid ? Ive never had a problem with sugar levels or blood pressure, all normal!

Yes I did. But I had to specifically ask for it. And cutting out sugar will help lose weight whether you have issues with your sugar levels or not.

GeorgeStobort

DisneyLover wrote: »

No its not though. Im 5'11 and 16 stone 10 lbs and Im active so its not, 2200 was recommended for weight loss and 1900 was recommended for losing 2 lbs a week

Your saying it's not . Alot of people are saying it is . Believe what you want so . But remember you came here for a reason. Your still Fat . The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result

GeorgeStobort

DisneyLover wrote: »

Ok will do. I always have a deficit though.

No you think your in a deficit. Your not . We can disagree night and day . But the proof is you not losing

whoopsadoodles

GeorgeStobort wrote: »

Your saying it's not . Alot of people are saying it is . Believe what you want so . But remember you came here for a reason. Your still Fat . The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result

GeorgeStobort wrote: »

No you think your in a deficit. Your not . We can disagree night and day . But the proof is you not losing

Well no, actually, a lot of people aren't saying that 1700 - 2200 calories is too many. What they're actually saying is that she perhaps isn't calculating the calories correctly. There is a very big difference.

Putting her details into calculator.net she still should be losing weight eating an average of 2,000 calories a day. The issue appears to lie with the fact she doesn't accurately calculate how many calories are in the food she is eating.

This is a breakdown based on the info the OP has given us. I've gone with lightly active, rather than moderately as I feel the OP more likely has a fairly sedentary job is some days the step count is only 5,000 and it will at least be a more cautious estimate.

njs030

DisneyLover wrote: »

He's a medical doctor yeah. Think he's the only Irish acupuncture doc who works in a hospital - Think he works in the Matter ? Also has a place atm in Donny Carney but he's moving to Howth.

An acupuncturist isn't a medical doctor op, it's not a field of medical study like cardiology or neurology.
If you want thyroid tests run as a few people have suggested you need to see a proper gp with a medical degree.
If you don't want to then that's fine just ignore the suggestions!

whoopsadoodles

notjustsweet wrote: »

An acupuncturist isn't a medical doctor op, it's not a field of medical study like cardiology or neurology.
If you want thyroid tests run as a few people have suggested you need to see a proper gp with a medical degree.
If you don't want to then that's fine just ignore the suggestions!

Some medical doctors also do acupuncture.

njs030

whoopsadoodles wrote: »

Some medical doctors also do acupuncture.

I googled the acupuncturist in the mater and he isn't a doctor.

Edit sorry I see your correct. I found some in Dublin, interesting.

whoopsadoodles

notjustsweet wrote: »

Do you know of any? I couldn't find any and definitely not any gps that will do a thyroid test while doing acupuncture in a hospital setting.

I googled the acupuncturist in the mater and he isn't a doctor.

http://www.dublinmedicalacupuncture.ie/dr-brendan-fitzpatrick.html

http://www.drchanmullen.com/about/

I've been to the 2nd one, she's a medical doctor and GP as well as an acupuncturist. And funnily enough, I went to her about fertility treatment where she ran blood tests - for thyroid function among other things. Prescribed chlomid....and administered acupuncture.

BoatMad

GeorgeStobort wrote: »

No you think your in a deficit. Your not . We can disagree night and day . But the proof is you not losing

1700 calories may not be enough , as the body compensates

It worth noting that patients post barriatric surgery have intakes that are dramatically lower then these typical ranges. ( is their dinner fits into a small glass )

In my experience reducing calorific intake slighty may result in temporary weight loss but the body self stabilises

If you have any suspicion of under functioning thyroid , have that sorted first as it can significantly impede the process

Excercise in moderation , you cannot shed large amounts of weight solely through exercise ( and keep it off ) excessive excercise can be damaging

njs030

whoopsadoodles wrote: »

http://www.dublinmedicalacupuncture.ie/dr-brendan-fitzpatrick.html

http://www.drchanmullen.com/about/

I've been to the 2nd one, she's a medical doctor and GP as well as an acupuncturist. And funnily enough, I went to her about fertility treatment where she ran blood tests - for thyroid function among other things. Prescribed chlomid....and administered acupuncture.

Yeah I edited it, perhaps there is two in the mater.
That's very interesting, did the acupuncture help? I'd hate the needles

whoopsadoodles

notjustsweet wrote: »

Yeah I edited it, perhaps there is two in the mater.
That's very interesting, did the acupuncture help? I'd hate the needles

Nothing helped unfortunately but that's life

I've had acupuncture and dry needling for other issues and have found it fantastic.

GeorgeStobort

BoatMad wrote: »

1700 calories may not be enough , as the body compensates

It worth noting that patients post barriatric surgery have intakes that are dramatically lower then these typical ranges. ( is their dinner fits into a small glass )

In my experience reducing calorific intake slighty may result in temporary weight loss but the body self stabilises

If you have any suspicion of under functioning thyroid , have that sorted first as it can significantly impede the process

Excercise in moderation , you cannot shed large amounts of weight solely through exercise ( and keep it off ) excessive excercise can be damaging

It compensates by taking what it needs from stored fat

Blacktie.

GeorgeStobort wrote: »

It compensates by taking what it needs from stored fat

Not necessarily. There's also reductions in NEAT levels that happens with prolonged calorie restriction.

runawaybishop

BoatMad wrote: »

1700 calories may not be enough , as the body compensates

Not much at that weight it doesn't. OP is probably overestimating calorie intake, as suggested numerous times.