That time of year again!

Crazyteacher

Its another way of shortlisting I suppose. But by the time you get degree results( year by year in some forms), masters results, Pgde results , it can get so wearisome. I think they make a lot of work for themselves to read when all they need is our teaching council registration and evetting. Maybe the want to put people off.

mtoutlemonde

Crazyteacher wrote: »

Quite common. One school in particular required an A1 in your teaching subjects. The ETB forms require them as do some voluntary secondaries.

That's where you put in your random A's and B's at HL I think this is the most ridiculous questions they can ask. What about the candidate that took up their teaching subject at third level? Are they not shortlisted because they didn't study it at second level? What about the candidate that performed better in their subject at third level?

Crazyteacher

True, Often people develop their real love of a subject at third level.

Liberal_irony

Anyone notice the Kildare school advertising two 11 hour contracts for maths... Clearly breaking up a full-time contract...

maynooth_rules

Application form for this position is available from xxxxx.
Applications are to be accepted by post only.
5 copies of Application Form must be submitted.
Teaching Council evidence of subjects you are qualified to teach must be submitted.
Garda Vetting Cert must be provided
Two written references are required.
This position is for 22 hours Geography and Resource Maths teaching per week
Hand written applications will not be accepted.

Is this not bordering on ridiculous now.

happywithlife

maynooth_rules wrote: »

Is this not bordering on ridiculous now.

I've seen worse- saw one recently where you had to submit 5 copies of the application forms, and 5 copies of your certs/diploma/teaching council reg and something else - can't remember now. Also saw one asking for passport photo with letter of application

evolving_doors

happywithlife wrote: »

I've seen worse- saw one recently where you had to submit 5 copies of the application forms, and 5 copies of your certs/diploma/teaching council reg and something else - can't remember now. Also saw one asking for passport photo with letter of application

What they heck would a school be doing with 5 copies of your application form. Is this before you're even called for interview?

happywithlife

Gebgbegb wrote: »

What they heck would a school be doing with 5 copies of your application form. Is this before you're even called for interview?

Presume it's so they don't have to photocopy a set for the interview panel. Yep no guarantee of even bring shortlisted. Also filling in lots of application forms but still having to submit a cv with them! 🙄

maynooth_rules

maynooth_rules wrote: »

That certain Wicklow school is up again with its 101 teaching jobs. Thankfully they have shortened the application form but there are still some tedious questions there. The amount of teachers that wasted so much time on their 20 page application form last year....and then receive no word back

Lovely rejection email from that school in Wicklow.
Same every year. They advertise every job under the sun, have a really long application form then the customary lovely rejection.
Tbf at least they have the manners to send out a reply. So simple to do with email today yet so few schools afford the decency.

oneright

I got that lovely email myself today! How long does it take ETBs to get back to you,I had an interview last week and the stress in the wait!

evolving_doors

maynooth_rules wrote: »

Lovely rejection email from that school in Wicklow.
Same every year. They advertise every job under the sun, have a really long application form then the customary lovely rejection.
Tbf at least they have the manners to send out a reply. So simple to do with email today yet so few schools afford the decency.

Is this correct...In a new school once the population increase therefore the hours available increase... therefore they have to readvertise the same job over and over?

Would that school you speak of be of a minority denomination ... so they might be looking for someone who would fit that ethos profile?

TheDriver

Gebgbegb wrote: »

Is this correct...In a new school once the population increase therefore the hours available increase... therefore they have to readvertise the same job over and over?

Would that school you speak of be of a minority denomination ... so they might be looking for someone who would fit that ethos profile?

There is a circular that states that staff on CID have to be offered the hours being advertised first before being advertised. Except in a situation where you need 2 english teachers for a block and hence can't offer the hours to your 1 teacher.

ETBs: all differ on timeframes in getting back to you. It all depends on their HR departments.

evolving_doors

TheDriver wrote: »

There is a circular that states that staff on CID have to be offered the hours being advertised first before being advertised. Except in a situation where you need 2 english teachers for a block and hence can't offer the hours to your 1 teacher.

ETBs: all differ on timeframes in getting back to you. It all depends on their HR departments.

Yes I'm thinking of a new school about 2 years old where 20 jobs were advertised! The subject combinations were a little bit specific with odd enough combinations (for a new school! ). So in that case I would assume none of the current staff are open to CID's. Would that be fair to say?

TheDriver

That sounds about right, strange

LeonDen

I've got called for an interview next week for a geography, history and English job however, I'm only TC qualified in geog and hist. (The panel should know this from my app form) Any advice on how to answer any English qs thrown my way?

icebergiceberg

One of the most frustrating things with application forms-going back many, many years- was the pitiful amount of space you had to write (yes write) your responses to questions. A small box was intimidating if you had unwieldy handwriting.

The amount of paper work nowadays is frightening (especially as someone noted above) the core info needed:TC Reg, relevant experience and reference contacts is small. That is the important bit and all the other stuff will come out in the wash at interview.

Eimee90

LeonDen wrote:

I've got called for an interview next week for a geography, history and English job however, I'm only TC qualified in geog and hist. (The panel should know this from my app form) Any advice on how to answer any English qs thrown my way?

I would be surprised if you were asked English Content questions. Unless you are familiar with the course and have taught it, it would be riddiculous to expect you to know. With all due respect, the English hours should be given to an English teacher.
Best of luck with the interview, fingers crossed

TheDriver

LeonDen wrote: »

I've got called for an interview next week for a geography, history and English job however, I'm only TC qualified in geog and hist. (The panel should know this from my app form) Any advice on how to answer any English qs thrown my way?

I can't think of any teacher that would be registered in all 3. Having said that, applicants that don't meet the criteria are usually not called to interview so maybe they realised there was no one applying with this combo