14 black male students in Cambridge

Help!!!!

tomwaterford wrote: »

What has any of this got to do with the lads in the photo though??

Britain isn't even in Europe anymore?


Im even more lost....is Europe poorer than America?

Your not making much sense

Havent you heard Britain will now be a state of the USA?

tomwaterford

Help!!!! wrote: »

Havent you heard Britain will now be a state of the USA?

OK lad

kunst nugget

Help!!!! wrote: »

But why is it that Asians & Africans who move to America do much better?? Not all come from wealthy backgrounds

In 1990, the median household income of an African immigrant was $30,907, according to the Center for Research on Immigration Policy in Washington, D.C. That compares with $19,533 for black Americans. Africans who immigrate to the United States come largely from the educated middle class of their countries. The research center reports 47 percent are college graduates and 22 percent have a professional specialty. Only 14 percent of black Americans graduate from college.

https://www.library.yale.edu/~fboateng/akata.htm

Asian-Americans are the highest-earning and fastest-growing racial group in the United States.

They’re also the best educated, as new numbers released by the U.S. Census Bureau demonstrate. More than half of Asians in the United States, 54 percent, have at least a bachelor’s degree. That’s up from 38 percent in 1995. It’s an impressive number, especially when compared to the 33 percent college-graduation rate for the total U.S. population.

The Census Bureau also found that higher-education rates for native-born Asian-Americans are the same as their foreign-born counterparts.

Experts say this impressive rate of educational achievement has a lot to do with a U.S. immigration policy that favors the applications of highly-educated immigrants from Asian countries.

“Since 1965, some Asian-American immigrants have come to the U.S. under certain immigration preference categories that favor professional skills and training,” Eliza Noh, an associate professor at California State University, Fullerton, said in an email. “Those groups tend to already have educational training and economic resources, which they invest in their children’s education. Their access to social and economic capital is what fuels academic achievement.”

http://blogs.voanews.com/all-about-america/2016/04/11/why-asian-americans-are-the-most-educated-group-in-america/

Irish Guitarist

William Gore, 19, who studies English, said he felt "really lucky" to be involved in a photo that has gone viral.
He said he wanted to send out a message that black students should "apply" to Cambridge, adding: "You don't need to change who you are to get here.
"There are people here at Cambridge from different backgrounds, who don't fit the stereotypical image of what a Cambridge student looks like, doing their thing and killing it."

Keep at the English. You'll get there eventually.

osarusan

A quick google of those names would suggest that some of these Africans made the long, arduous journey to Cambridge after finishing school in such exotic places as Worcestershire, Kent, Guildford, Northampton, and London.

kunst nugget

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

Keep at the English. You'll get there eventually.

Aye, black people and their slang. So hard to understand…:rolleyes:

Irish Guitarist

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

Keep at the English. You'll get there eventually.

What is wrong with a young lad talking like a young lad?

Shenshen

Help!!!! wrote: »

OK, so we have 14 Africans get into one of the top universities in the world. In the USA Africans & Asians do well academically & career wise but African Americans seem to struggle. Is it because they are being constantly told that the system doesnt work for them??

Where does it say they're African in that article? I assumed they were British?

Irish Guitarist

kunst nugget wrote: »

Aye, black people and their slang. So hard to understand?:rolleyes:

Sorry for being so white and cis.

Barry Badrinath

This is fcuking stupid.

Start making some sense OP.

From what I gather from the link....black guys are encouraging black guys to apply to a University that apparently is "traditionally" a "honky" University.

So, is it a combination of race, wealth, social standings and tradition?

This sh1t has nothing to do with race and has everything to do with brainz.

No love, the reason you are not in Cambridge, its not because you are black, its because you are stupid.....just like a sh1t load of white guys.

kunst nugget

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

Sorry for being so white and cis.

Ah, why would you be sorry, you're killing it!

Gatling

So 14 college people on posing for a photograph is News these day ,

oneilla

tomwaterford wrote: »

These two facts are unrelated


Saying roddy collins used manage Cambridge United is more relevant??
At least it's in the same country?

Is Roddy Collins a black man!? If he was, and he was African and he got into a University then we're getting somewhere :PAC:

Barry Badrinath

Gatling wrote: »

So 14 college people on posing for a photograph is News these day ,

I think the OP is just saying that African Americans are lazy.

beans

Thought this would be an interesting tangent

Muslim teenager repeats '#Blacklivesmatter' 100 times on Stanford application and is accepted

One eyed Jack

Help!!!! wrote: »

You look at the African Americans & the crap they have to put up with. Not from racist/fascist/white supremacist/KKK/white privilege but from liberal/SJW's/white feminists/white apologists. They are constantly being told that the system is against them that white people have an advantage over them etc. Strange how Asians & Africans in America can beat the system. Keep telling someone they will never make it & they stop trying. The focus should be on encouraging the African Americans to put in the hard work to get better education & clean up their neighbourhoods.
The following 2 videos really show the idiocy that African Americans have to put up with...

You think black people actually listen to white people talking shìte? Even white people don't listen to white people talking shìte!

pilly

Help!!!! wrote:

Unrelated?? OK maybe its a little early in the day for you so I'll try again. Forget about the logistics You have black people from 2 different continents & the ones on the poorest do better in education than the ones on possibly the richest one. Why is that??

Would you believe me if I told you not one of those black guys in Cambridge are poor?

Cop on OP, you ****ed up in your initial post, just admit it.

Murrisk

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

It's all just middle class white people wanting to virtue signal for social cachet. There's a fcuking epidemic of it in western society. Louise O'Neill posted recently after she seen Moonlight and said that it was good to see a film about black people as it wasn't just white people that have stories to tell. These people are as dumb as you can get but yet they think they are profound and progressive. Arsehats the whole lot of them.

You're obsessed with LON. It illustrates why all newspaper have clickbait writers on their staff now. It works.

dav3

Help!!!! wrote: »

You look at the African Americans & the crap they have to put up with. Not from racist/fascist/white supremacist/KKK/white privilege...

No of course not. The slavery, the lynching, the hangings, the discrimination, the segregation, the everyday racism is not a patch on what they have to put up with from normal people these days.

We all look forward to your next irrelevant sh*t-stirring post OP. Make it a better one next time.

So edgy OP, so edgy.

Murrisk

I think it's been shown in studies (would need to do some searching as it has been a while) that basically black people have to work a lot harder to prove themselves and get on in predominantly white countries. I have no problem believing that. Basically, an average intelligence white dude or dudette will get farther than an intellectually equivalent black person.

bnt

Senor Fancy Pants wrote: »

From what I gather from the link....black guys are encouraging black guys to apply to a University that apparently is "traditionally" a "honky" University.

Just about all universities are tradtitionally "honky" universities. The very concept of a university is a "honky" idea. Where they exist outside Europe at all, they are a colonial legacy - even such august institutions as Harvard, which was named after an English immigrant preacher who bequeathed money and books to start it.

diomed

I think I can help the discussion by adding some irrelevant information.
Years ago I went to Trinity College, Cambridge .... for a week. It was a course held during the college holidays.
The drinks in the student bar were unbelievably cheap. We wrote our orders on a matchbox and got drunk every night.
Isn't that where they ran around in Chariots Of Fire?

neverever1

I'd say the majority that go to Cambridge are people you'd want to avoid, be they black or white. The same as Trinity here.

Victor

Help!!!! wrote: »

Africans & Asians in America do better academically than African American & better in life in terms of employment etc.

Might this be because many African & Asian immigrants come from better off backgrounds, with better education, financing and connections?

ScumLord

The guy in the white jacket with the black and red stripe looks like a time traveller from the 90s.

kunst nugget

diomed wrote: »

I think I can help the discussion by adding some irrelevant information.
Years ago I went to Trinity College, Cambridge .... for a week. It was a course held during the college holidays.
The drinks in the student bar were unbelievably cheap. We wrote our orders on a matchbox and got drunk every night.
Isn't that where they ran around in Chariots Of Fire?

And were there any African-Americans getting drunk with you? I bet there wasn't because they were too busy complaining about 'barriers' like poverty…

neverever1

kunst nugget wrote: »

And were there any African-Americans getting drunk with you? I bet there wasn't because they were too busy complaining about 'barriers' like poverty…

I think more likely that the black guys were off with some young ones showing off what they got! Big brains.

wes

bnt wrote: »

The very concept of a university is a "honky" idea.

Oldest University in the world is Morrocan..........

Jelle1880

Alvin Icy Wrongdoing wrote: »

SJW's and snowflakes

Which snowflakes would that be ? The extreme left or extreme right ?

Outlaw Pete

Murrisk wrote: »

You're obsessed with LON.

Oh, a liberal attacking the poster rather than the post... colour me surprised.

Help!!!!

dav3 wrote: »

No of course not. The slavery, the lynching, the hangings, the discrimination, the segregation, the everyday racism is not a patch on what they have to put up with from normal people these days.

We all look forward to your next irrelevant sh*t-stirring post OP. Make it a better one next time.

So edgy OP, so edgy.

What are you on about? AFAIK there's been no lynchings/segregation for decades. Everyday racism?? So how long do we use these excuses for?

kunst nugget

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Oh, a liberal attacking the poster rather than the post... colour me surprised.

Oh, someone calling a poster a liberal. On an Irish site no less… back in my day it was all blueshirts and smelly crusties. None of this alt-right fascists and liberal snowflakes nonsense.

Irish Praetorian

If anyone would like an actually interesting take on the issue of African Americans in higher education I'd highly recommend anything by Dr. Thomas Sowell (if you can endure the annoying penchant for his fans to tack on some classical music to make it sound more 'smart').

Setting that aside, there there an actual issue people want to discuss like racial quotas, the African-American v. Asian-American experience, drop-out statistics; or are we just vaguely jousting at each other as being racist/cucks/snowflakes/fascists?

pilly

Irish Praetorian wrote: »

If anyone would like an actually interesting take on the issue of African Americans in higher education I'd highly recommend anything by Dr. Thomas Sowell (if you can endure the annoying penchant for his fans to tack on some classical music to make it sound more 'smart').

Setting that aside, there there an actual issue people want to discuss like racial quotas, the African-American v. Asian-American experience, drop-out statistics; or are we just vaguely jousting at each other as being racist/cucks/snowflakes/fascists?

You're right, it would have been an interesting topic other than the fact that the OP was a load of crap.

Help!!!!

pilly wrote: »

You're right, it would have been an interesting topic other than the fact that the OP was a load of crap.

Interesting enough to have you post something about it

Help!!!!

Senor Fancy Pants wrote: »

I think the OP is just saying that African Americans are lazy.

Actually no. I think they have been told they are the victims for so long that they kind of just skate through life thinking they will never be anything so why bother.
An Irish example would be the travellers. Traveller kids are not encouraged to to do better in education. " Ah sure its their culture "

Thomas Sowell was talking 27years ago about the problems that America is having now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVvnTByzTmA

dav3

Help!!!! wrote: »

What are you on about? AFAIK there's been no lynchings/segregation for decades. Everyday racism?? So how long do we use these excuses for?

Who says anything about making excuses?

Help!!!! wrote: »

You look at the African Americans & the crap they have to put up with.

I imagine what I have listed would play a large part in the 'crap they have to put up with'.

What is it that has you so annoyed? Is it 'African Americans' or the 14 blacked lads in the picture you posted that you claim are 'Africans' from Cambridge England?

What has you so riled up on a sunny Wednesday afternoon that you just had to post this nonsense on an Irish forum?

Irish Praetorian

Help!!!! wrote: »

Actually no. I think they have been told they are the victims for so long that they kind of just skate through life thinking they will never be anything so why bother.
An Irish example would be the travellers. Traveller kids are not encouraged to to do better in education. " Ah sure its their culture "

Thomas Sowell was talking 27years ago about the problems that America is having now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVvnTByzTmA

Finally, I've spent months trying to get fellow boardsies to take a trip on the Sowell-plane.

pilly

Help!!!! wrote:

Interesting enough to have you post something about it

Not interesting, just amusing when someone makes a total tit of themselves. Gave me a giggle that's all.

WildSaffron

I am black African (don't tell my mother - she has a nervous disposition).

Went to some good schools - scholarships on the main.

For me personally I find the African history and background is very different to that of the Caribbean / West Indies background and again very different to the African American experience.

Don't forget that racism is still thriving in America - why did Barack have such a rough ride? The "Nobamas" calling his wife a "monkey"? and getting away with it?

In my dealings with African Americans I feel they are still very aware that their world is weighted against them, not for them.

In Europe people with darker skin have an easier time - we are dealing with old, well matured cultures that have had centuries of dealing with migrations etc.

So as a black person in Europe - I don't feel that there is any barrier to me achieving what I want to do. Of course in reality there are the cupboard racists, the ones who would rather see Irish people doing a job than some blow-in, the UKIP "where did I put my brain this time" crowd - but that's par for the course.

I pretty much can take on a notion and bowl along happily without ever thinking about race. If I wanted to apply to Cambridge in the morning - sure, why wouldn't I?

I suspect if I were an African American in America - I would have certain thoughts about race, when I was considering education and career - even down to things like going to a "black" University - over here we just go to Uni.

So in answer to the OP's question, which is not as ridiculous as some people are trying to make it out to be - these are different experiences. Being black in America poses a lot more hurdles than being black in Europe or pretty much anywhere else. African Americans are not necessarily lazy - the system is weighed against them - they have to work harder, have more self confidence to even mentally get through the challenges; or they don't even have the heart to start trying because they have seen what their parents/family/peers have had to / are coping with.

My brother once got stopped by a racist copper in London (brother was driving a brand new company car). This dude was so incensed and caused so many problems for my brother for years - ended up in court, luckily brother's company hired a barrister because of the sheer racism of the whole thing.

That was a once in a lifetime "really?" like, really?" kind of moment for us.

It seems in 'Merica - this is an everyday occurrence for black people.

Help!!!!

dav3 wrote: »

Who says anything about making excuses?



I imagine what I have listed would play a large part in the 'crap they have to put up with'.

What is it that has you so annoyed? Is it 'African Americans' or the 14 blacked lads in the picture you posted that you claim are 'Africans' from Cambridge England?

What has you so riled up on a sunny Wednesday afternoon that you just had to post this nonsense on an Irish forum?

Maybe decades ago but why is it that African kids & not just wealthy African kids are better educated than African American kids?
Dont try to make out theres some racist undertone to what I posted

Tom Mann Centuria

Hector Bellend wrote: »

Who gives a rats ass?

Arse. It's rats arse.

NoCrackHaving

Help!!!! wrote: »

Maybe decades ago but why is it that African kids & not just wealthy African kids are better educated than African American kids?
Dont try to make out theres some racist undertone to what I posted

Ah come on now really? The literacy rate in sub-Saharan Africa is roughly 59%, in the US it's 98/99% although I suspect this may be slightly over exaggerated as functional illiteracy is phenomenally high across parts of the US so I would round this down to 90-94% in reality(source: UNESCO Institute for Statistics).Even taking aside the issues of functional illiteracy etc. it's quite clear that your average black person in the US is far better educated than your average black person in Africa. Also this is just literacy, I haven't touched on any other facets of education. To claim otherwise is just head in the sand stuff.

As an aside why the obsession with the educational attainment of black people in the US versus elsewhere? Why not black Irish people which is surely a more relevant point on an Irish forum.

Help!!!!

WildSaffron wrote: »

I am black African (don't tell my mother - she has a nervous disposition).

Went to some good schools - scholarships on the main.

For me personally I find the African history and background is very different to that of the Caribbean / West Indies background and again very different to the African American experience.

Don't forget that racism is still thriving in America - why did Barack have such a rough ride? The "Nobamas" calling his wife a "monkey"? and getting away with it?

In my dealings with African Americans I feel they are still very aware that their world is weighted against them, not for them.

In Europe people with darker skin have an easier time - we are dealing with old, well matured cultures that have had centuries of dealing with migrations etc.

So as a black person in Europe - I don't feel that there is any barrier to me achieving what I want to do. Of course in reality there are the cupboard racists, the ones who would rather see Irish people doing a job than some blow-in, the UKIP "where did I put my brain this time" crowd - but that's par for the course.

I pretty much can take on a notion and bowl along happily without ever thinking about race. If I wanted to apply to Cambridge in the morning - sure, why wouldn't I?

I suspect if I were an African American in America - I would have certain thoughts about race, when I was considering education and career - even down to things like going to a "black" University - over here we just go to Uni.

So in answer to the OP's question, which is not as ridiculous as some people are trying to make it out to be - these are different experiences. Being black in America poses a lot more hurdles than being black in Europe or pretty much anywhere else. African Americans are not necessarily lazy - the system is weighed against them - they have to work harder, have more self confidence to even mentally get through the challenges; or they don't even have the heart to start trying because they have seen what their parents/family/peers have had to / are coping with.

My brother once got stopped by a racist copper in London (brother was driving a brand new company car). This dude was so incensed and caused so many problems for my brother for years - ended up in court, luckily brother's company hired a barrister because of the sheer racism of the whole thing.

That was a once in a lifetime "really?" like, really?" kind of moment for us.

It seems in 'Merica - this is an everyday occurrence for black people.

Thanks for posting:D Do you not think that black Americans could do better but dont because of peer pressure. I mean if a black American ( I have seen it with blacks from other countries too ) is seen to be doing well they are seen as a sell out " Unkle Tom " " Orio " " Coconut " & other black people will go out of there way to bring them " back down to their level ".

I know people on here are trying to make out theres some underlying racist intention from my post ( My cousins were probably the first non white kids to live in Tipperary ) :rolleyes:

dav3

Help!!!! wrote: »

Maybe decades ago but why is it that African kids & not just wealthy African kids are better educated than African American kids?
Dont try to make out theres some racist undertone to what I posted

That's quite a claim without any stats to back it up...yet again.

I say we should just leave the thread at WildSaffron's post and head out into the sunshine.

Help!!!!

NoCrackHaving wrote: »

Ah come on now really? The literacy rate in sub-Saharan Africa is roughly 59%, in the US it's 98/99% although I suspect this may be slightly over exaggerated as functional illiteracy is phenomenally high across parts of the US so I would round this down to 90-94% in reality(source: UNESCO Institute for Statistics).Even taking aside the issues of functional illiteracy etc. it's quite clear that your average black person in the US is far better educated than your average black person in Africa. Also this is just literacy, I haven't touched on any other facets of education. To claim otherwise is just head in the sand stuff.

As an aside why the obsession with the educational attainment of black people in the US versus elsewhere? Why not black Irish people which is surely a more relevant point on an Irish forum.

I didnt think we had to just talk about Irish subjects. I would say black Irish people would get the same education as any other person. I know my cousins did back in the later 80s & their children have had no problems.

Help!!!!

dav3 wrote: »

That's quite a claim without any stats to back it up...yet again.

I say we should just leave the thread at WildSaffron's post and head out into the sunshine.

Well if you go to an African country the kids walk for miles to go to school, they want knowledge. OK the level of education is not up to the standards of the US but if you put a 12 year old from a village in Africa up against a 12 year old from say Harlem in a spelling contest I know who I'd put my money on.

kunst nugget

Help!!!! wrote: »

Thanks for posting:D Do you not think that black Americans could do better but dont because of peer pressure. I mean if a black American ( I have seen it with blacks from other countries too ) is seen to be doing well they are seen as a sell out " Unkle Tom " " Orio " " Coconut " & other black people will go out of there way to bring them " back down to their level ".

I know people on here are trying to make out theres some underlying racist intention from my post ( My cousins were probably the first non white kids to live in Tipperary ) :rolleyes:

Is this not the type of thing you'll see in Ireland too? Begrudgery based on circumstance? 'Would you look at your man over there after getting too big for his boots. It was far from fine wine that he was raised!'

You're going to have problems with educational achievement in terms of people from deprived areas - it would be a big issue over here too. In America, there's going to be a high proportion of black people living in deprived areas. Factor in the exorbitant costs of college over in the States and it can be easy to see why it would be a pipe dream for a lot of people.

Junkyard Tom

This alt-right versus-the-world shit is poisoning After Hours. Can there be some sort of containment thread for all this SJW/Libtard/Cuck stuff?

Murrisk

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Oh, a liberal attacking the poster rather than the post... colour me surprised.

Seriously, she's clearly a walking, talking troll. Talk about playing right into her hands. The best anyone can do with an LON is ignore her.