14 black male students in Cambridge

Help!!!!

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

This alt-right versus-the-world shit is poisoning After Hours. Can there be some sort of containment thread for all this SJW/Libtard/Cuck stuff?

Who's Alt-right?? Also you dont need a safe space, you can just exit the thread

WildSaffron

I am not sure, Help!!!

I suppose a lot of it depends on the family dynamics (fear gives birth to fear). If the family read a lot and impress the importance of education, the children will see that as their natural birthright.

I suppose it also depends where you are brought up.

This also manifests itself in families of different colours/ethnicities as someone mentioned earlier - someone once said to me in Ballinasloe (in the Whesht of Ireland ) that they would rather see me come in and do well as opposed to one of their own trying to get "above themselves" - was quite shocked to hear that - but guess that is the reality all over the place.

The mindset you put into a child is what is important - am lucky that my father always said to me "education is your mother and father" and I naturally followed education - read a LOT - opened up my mind to possibilities etc.

Sometimes it takes me months to recognise that someone is being racist or insulting me - I just don't look for it lol! I imagine I am quite frustrating for all out racists ha ha..

Help!!!! wrote: »

Thanks for posting:D Do you not think that black Americans could do better but dont because of peer pressure. I mean if a black American ( I have seen it with blacks from other countries too ) is seen to be doing well they are seen as a sell out " Unkle Tom " " Orio " " Coconut " & other black people will go out of there way to bring them " back down to their level ".

I know people on here are trying to make out theres some underlying racist intention from my post ( My cousins were probably the first non white kids to live in Tipperary ) :rolleyes:

oneilla

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

This alt-right versus-the-world shit is poisoning After Hours. Can there be some sort of containment thread for all this SJW/Libtard/Cuck stuff?

The worst is when you lose IRL friends to this poppycock. It's very possible to ignore it especially if you don't use Twitter and aren't in college!

Help!!!!

WildSaffron wrote: »

I am not sure, Help!!!

I suppose a lot of it depends on the family dynamics (fear gives birth to fear). If the family read a lot and impress the importance of education, the children will see that as their natural birthright.

I suppose it also depends where you are brought up.

This also manifests itself in families of different colours/ethnicities as someone mentioned earlier - someone once said to me in Ballinasloe (in the Whesht of Ireland ) that they would rather see me come in and do well as opposed to one of their own trying to get "above themselves" - was quite shocked to hear that - but guess that is the reality all over the place.

The mindset you put into a child is what is important - am lucky that my father always said to me "education is your mother and father" and I naturally followed education - read a LOT - opened up my mind to possibilities etc.

Sometimes it takes me months to recognise that someone is being racist or insulting me - I just don't look for it lol! I imagine I am quite frustrating for all out racists ha ha..

Good for you, where are you from? I watch a bit of Tommy Sotomayor on youtube, he reckons it has to do with " black women " having kids by different fathers etc.

Junkyard Tom

Help!!!! wrote: »

Who's Alt-right?? Also you dont need a safe space, you can just exit the thread

Help!!!!

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Exactly!!

Junkyard Tom

oneilla wrote: »

The worst is when you lose IRL friends to this poppycock. It's very possible to ignore it especially if you don't use Twitter and aren't in college!

Is it actually happening in real life? I thought it was confined to the perpetually outraged internet keyboard masher.

Dear oh dear.

oneilla

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Is it actually happening in real life? I thought it was confined to the perpetually outraged internet keyboard masher.

Dear oh dear.

Yes. I met someone recently who used the phrase "POC" as if it was totally normal and I know of another who will happily rant IRL about SJWs as if there was a real life faction threatening people. It's very sad on both accounts.

Help!!!!

oneilla wrote: »

Yes. I met someone recently who used the phrase "POC" as if it was totally normal and I know of another who will happily rant IRL about SJWs as if there was a real life faction threatening people. It's very sad on both accounts.

Whats a POC or IRL?

oneilla

Help!!!! wrote: »

Whats a POC or IRL?

Lol, kid on! I bet you know all the lingo!!

Help!!!!

oneilla wrote: »

Lol, kid on! I bet you know all the lingo!!

No seriously, I thought you were talking about Irish friends when you put IRL

Il Fascista

oneilla wrote: »

Lol, kid on! I bet you know all the lingo!!

It's not even Alt Right lingo though, you're confusing sides!

dirtyden

Help!!!! wrote: »

Good for you, where are you from? I watch a bit of Tommy Sotomayor on youtube, he reckons it has to do with " black women " having kids by different fathers etc.

Well Tommy has a very simplistic view of socio - economic factors that can influence opportunity for populations. The reasons are complex and it does not start with someone having kids with multiple partners. Frankly I would consider someone with opinions like that to be a little bigoted

oneilla

Il Fascista wrote: »

It's not even Alt Right lingo though, you're confusing sides!

Both sides know each other's buzzwords!

dublinman1990

OK. This threads tells me that a small number of foreign guys; who are from backgrounds that is statistically not great from their own counterparts of African descent; are students in a big famous university in England. I'd say good for them.

I think their intentions are noble and sensible to say that their fellow counterparts from their home country in Africa can be able to dream big and to think outside of their own box if they want to get a decent education in life. These guys say their message in a much easier environment while being University students in the UK compared to what is experienced by the same people and possibly more attending college in the US.

There is a small cohort of vile people out there with racist tendencies in the world today who seemingly want to bash Black people at every opportunity they get and in a lot of cases it's very sad to see it happen in real life right in front of you. People like that are a blight on society's way of life. It is rare for racist attacks to happen in Ireland but when it's elsewhere in the US more so than in the UK it can be a highly charged issue for everyone involved.

I wish the guys well in their studies at Cambridge. I hope they have a great future ahead of them.

pangbang

WildSaffron wrote: »

I am black African (don't tell my mother - she has a nervous disposition).

Went to some good schools - scholarships on the main.

For me personally I find the African history and background is very different to that of the Caribbean / West Indies background and again very different to the African American experience.

Don't forget that racism is still thriving in America - why did Barack have such a rough ride? The "Nobamas" calling his wife a "monkey"? and getting away with it?

In my dealings with African Americans I feel they are still very aware that their world is weighted against them, not for them.

In Europe people with darker skin have an easier time - we are dealing with old, well matured cultures that have had centuries of dealing with migrations etc.

So as a black person in Europe - I don't feel that there is any barrier to me achieving what I want to do. Of course in reality there are the cupboard racists, the ones who would rather see Irish people doing a job than some blow-in, the UKIP "where did I put my brain this time" crowd - but that's par for the course.

I pretty much can take on a notion and bowl along happily without ever thinking about race. If I wanted to apply to Cambridge in the morning - sure, why wouldn't I?

I suspect if I were an African American in America - I would have certain thoughts about race, when I was considering education and career - even down to things like going to a "black" University - over here we just go to Uni.

So in answer to the OP's question, which is not as ridiculous as some people are trying to make it out to be - these are different experiences. Being black in America poses a lot more hurdles than being black in Europe or pretty much anywhere else. African Americans are not necessarily lazy - the system is weighed against them - they have to work harder, have more self confidence to even mentally get through the challenges; or they don't even have the heart to start trying because they have seen what their parents/family/peers have had to / are coping with.

My brother once got stopped by a racist copper in London (brother was driving a brand new company car). This dude was so incensed and caused so many problems for my brother for years - ended up in court, luckily brother's company hired a barrister because of the sheer racism of the whole thing.

That was a once in a lifetime "really?" like, really?" kind of moment for us.

It seems in 'Merica - this is an everyday occurrence for black people.

I agree with most of what you said, but the bolded part of your statement is whack-a-doodle to me.

Are you saying that its wrong or bad for an irish person, in Ireland, to prefer an irish person to work an irish job in Ireland rather than a "blow-in" not from Ireland?

Is that what youre saying, just to be clear?

Help!!!!

dirtyden wrote: »

Well Tommy has a very simplistic view of socio - economic factors that can influence opportunity for populations. The reasons are complex and it does not start with someone having kids with multiple partners. Frankly I would consider someone with opinions like that to be a little bigoted

Well maybe Tommy has this view because he has seen it first hand

harry Bailey esq

I misinterpreted the thread title
I thought there was 14 students taking a course in blackmail. I'd be brilliant at that. It's as simple as getting a decent camera,get a few snaps of some married family man with his arse bobbing up and down on top of some local skank and boom,you've got yerself a degree! That would be sweet.Although it would be most likely that there would be a significant drop off in students choosing to study art...

Help!!!!

harry Bailey esq wrote: »

I misinterpreted the thread title
I thought there was 14 students taking a course in blackmail. I'd be brilliant at that. It's as simple as getting a decent camera,get a few snaps of some married family man with his arse bobbing up and down on top of some local skank and boom,you've got yerself a degree! That would be sweet.Although it would be most likely that there would be a significant drop off in students choosing to study art...

You might get students that never want to leave though;)

imme

Where does ability, suitability for 3rd level education come into it OP

harry Bailey esq

Help!!!! wrote: »

14 black male students in Cambridge posed for a picture

Ah,now I understand.It was just a yearbook photo of the college basketball team.It's the way I size up life that led to my wrongful assumption.Its often said that there is a fine line between piety and corruption. I however don't subscribe to that theory. Im of the opinion that there is a no man's land between the two,something like the DMZ on the Korean peninsula which has featured a lot in the news of late.Personally,id sit closer to the northern side,that of course if we're to take as a given that the North is more corrupt than its neighbour to the south.Im rambling now,apologies for that.But there are some fairly bizarre university courses out there all the same,I was listening to Sean Moncrieff one day and he had a chap on who wrote his entire thesis on The Simpsons.Tours the States speaking at seminars and conventions and earns a nice living from it in fairness to him.Now that's just cool!No two ways about it.

RDM_83 again

Murrisk wrote: »

I think it's been shown in studies (would need to do some searching as it has been a while) that basically black people have to work a lot harder to prove themselves and get on in predominantly white countries. I have no problem believing that. Basically, an average intelligence white dude or dudette will get farther than an intellectually equivalent black person.

Ok since your not just talking about the USA in that post I am going to query this, in the UK/England the group with the worst educational outcomes isn't working class black boys, its working class white boys, how does this fit with what you state above.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/34667100/poor-white-boys-get-a-worse-start-in-life-says-equality-report

When you look at the other table in the link it does show a 2% difference towards the general white male population but its far smaller than the negative difference towards working class white boys of 15%.