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    #632
    Jobs OXO
    Closed Accounts Posts: 887 ✭✭✭Jobs OXO


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    I'm sure there are a handful of cases every couple of years where users have a genuine need to close an account for matters of urgent privacy. It could have been a case that such users could have emailed the site to request same and make a case for closure.

    As it is, the vast majority of closed accounts are being used in a negative anti community sense.

    Give over ! I have reinvented myself and may do so again if I choose.


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    #633
    KERSPLAT!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    It's like Byrner phones, Byrner accounts. Use it and ditch it. Isn't that right OXO!


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    #634
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    #635
    Jobs OXO
    Closed Accounts Posts: 887 ✭✭✭Jobs OXO


    KERSPLAT! wrote: »
    It's like Byrner phones, Byrner accounts. Use it and ditch it. Isn't that right OXO!

    Eh? Paranoid much?


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    #636
    hinault
    Registered Users Posts: 5,932 ✭✭✭hinault


    ....... wrote: »
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    Agreed.

    Rightly or wrongly, this site has a pretty poor reputation according to other sites in that regard.

    A few years ago this site probably had a more captive audience, but with all sorts of other discussion sites operating these days, the audience here are no longer captive. This development is welcome.

    I've been carded several times on this site, but I'm still happy to contribute to this site with the only account that I have ever operated for this site.


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    #637
    KERSPLAT!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    Jobs OXO wrote: »
    Eh? Paranoid much?

    More than a little. Chemical imbalance I'm told


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    #638
    Jobs OXO
    Closed Accounts Posts: 887 ✭✭✭Jobs OXO


    KERSPLAT! wrote: »
    More than a little. Chemical imbalance I'm told

    Ah Chemical Byrne. Nope not me. Have another try if you want?


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    #639
    Peregrine
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,402 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


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    It is absolutely how it should be. Someone with a poor record will get longer bans. Poor record means recent record. A couple of cards and a ban four years ago and then nothing until now doesn't constitute a poor record.

    In your idea, every transgression would have a certain card or ban associated with it and it would be applied with no regard to your previous transgressions. If calling someone a dickhead is a red card, you could call someone a dickhead everyday and only keep picking up red cards. What's the point in that? The user is just collecting cards that have no meaning. You may as well not get red cards because they don't mean anything. That is absolutely not how it is and should never be how it is. If someone gets a red card and then has another transgression then they should get a one day ban. If they keep it up, three day ban, one week ban and increment until permanent. Anyone who doesn't get the message after so many warnings and bans shouldn't be allowed to waste other users' and moderators' time further.


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    #641
    Boards.ie: Mark
    Boards.ie Employee Posts: 5,461 ✭✭✭✭✭Boards.ie: Mark
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    Closed accounts are brought up every so often, but there are always arguments both for and against. As Niamh said, this is something we'll have to mull over. But unless we were to tie accounts to something with more setup required than an e-mail address - which I don't think will happen - there will always be people willing to scrap an ID for a new account.

    If there were suggestions as to how to make disciplinary action and appeals process better or more straightforward for all, we'd certainly like to hear them. At the moment, a person appealing can try to come to an agreement with the mod who took action, then raise it to a CMod, and then request an Admin review. If it stands after all that, then surely whatever action taken was justified.

    How can I? User's guide to some features on the new site



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    #642
    Jobs OXO
    Closed Accounts Posts: 887 ✭✭✭Jobs OXO


    Boards.ie: Mark wrote: »
    Closed accounts are brought up every so often, but there are always arguments both for and against. As Niamh said, this is something we'll have to mull over. But unless we were to tie accounts to something with more setup required than an e-mail address - which I don't think will happen - there will always be people willing to scrap an ID for a new account.

    If there were suggestions as to how to make disciplinary action and appeals process better or more straightforward for all, we'd certainly like to hear them. At the moment, a person appealing can try to come to an agreement with the mod who took action, then raise it to a CMod, and then request an Admin review. If it stands after all that, then surely whatever action taken was justified.

    Could you do an analysis to outline what % of DRPs are actually successful?


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    #643
    WinnyThePoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    Jobs OXO wrote: »
    Could you do an analysis to outline what % of DRPs are actually successful?

    What do you mean by successful?


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    #644
    Jobs OXO
    Closed Accounts Posts: 887 ✭✭✭Jobs OXO


    WinnyThePoo wrote: »
    What do you mean by successful?

    Cards/bans overturned


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    #645
    WinnyThePoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    Jobs OXO wrote: »
    Cards/bans overturned

    What does it matter?


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    #646
    Jobs OXO
    Closed Accounts Posts: 887 ✭✭✭Jobs OXO


    WinnyThePoo wrote: »
    What does it matter?

    If that's your attitude why bother posting? I asked a question.


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    #647
    D0NNELLY
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭D0NNELLY


    Boards.ie: Mark wrote: »
    Closed accounts are brought up every so often, but there are always arguments both for and against. As Niamh said, this is something we'll have to mull over. But unless we were to tie accounts to something with more setup required than an e-mail address - which I don't think will happen - there will always be people willing to scrap an ID for a new account.

    Email accounts are as throw away as boards accounts. Text the confirmation message to a phone. One account per phone number.


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    #648
    Erik Shin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,721 ✭✭✭Erik Shin


    D0NNELLY wrote: »
    Email accounts are as throw away as boards accounts. Text the confirmation message to a phone. One account per phone number.

    Sim cards are throw away also if we're going down that route


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    #649
    D0NNELLY
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭D0NNELLY


    Erik Shin wrote: »
    Sim cards are throw away also if we're going down that route

    The serial reregers do it cause it's a 2 min job to get a new email address. Constantly getting new SIM cards just wouldn't be worth the hassle


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    #650
    handlemaster
    Registered Users Posts: 6,003 ✭✭✭handlemaster


    Boards has gotten more and more boring. Its become a big echo chamber


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    #651
    KERSPLAT!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    Jobs OXO wrote: »
    Cards/bans overturned

    The forum is public, you could get the information yourself though I'm not sure what it would prove? If 95% were upheld, what would that mean? Genuine question. What analysis would you do on the results?

    I mean you could say the same for prison forum appeals but that's full of banned reregs. I don't see what the analysis of either would accomplish but if you can put forward a decent case for it I'd have no problem having a look.


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    #652
    Turtyturd
    Registered Users Posts: 28,397 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Peregrine wrote: »
    It is absolutely how it should be. Someone with a poor record will get longer bans. Poor record means recent record. A couple of cards and a ban four years ago and then nothing until now doesn't constitute a poor record.

    In your idea, every transgression would have a certain card or ban associated with it and it would be applied with no regard to your previous transgressions. If calling someone a dickhead is a red card, you could call someone a dickhead everyday and only keep picking up red cards. What's the point in that? The user is just collecting cards that have no meaning. You may as well not get red cards because they don't mean anything. That is absolutely not how it is and should never be how it is. If someone gets a red card and then has another transgression then they should get a one day ban. If they keep it up, three day ban, one week ban and increment until permanent. Anyone who doesn't get the message after so many warnings and bans shouldn't be allowed to waste other users' and moderators' time further.

    Each post could still be viewed independently and have incremental bans as a result of each infraction. But what happens is you get the mod saying 'I am upholding this based on several of your other posts...' and these posts won't have been carded so shouldn't play any part in the decision. If a poster is only allowed to comment on the post they are disputing the same rule should apply to mods. There's plenty of examples of a Cmod threatening to implement bans on other posts after a poster has disputed a card, hardly the type of behaviour to encourage posters to dispute their cards (probably his intention) or that's conducive to a fair system.


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    #653
    KERSPLAT!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    Turtyturd wrote: »
    Each post could still be viewed independently and have incremental bans as a result of each infraction. But what happens is you get the mod saying 'I am upholding this based on several of your other posts...' and these posts won't have been carded so shouldn't play any part in the decision. If a poster is only allowed to comment on the post they are disputing the same rule should apply to mods. There's plenty of examples of a Cmod threatening to implement bans on other posts after a poster has disputed a card, hardly the type of behaviour to encourage posters to dispute their cards (probably his intention) or that's conducive to a fair system.

    The poster appealing can comment on any of their posts, what is discarded is the excuse of "but they called me a ***" or "but that poster did it too". I've never seen a poster in DRP be told not to bring up any post but the one they're disputing.


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    #654
    Jobs OXO
    Closed Accounts Posts: 887 ✭✭✭Jobs OXO


    Turtyturd wrote: »
    Each post could still be viewed independently and have incremental bans as a result of each infraction. But what happens is you get the mod saying 'I am upholding this based on several of your other posts...' and these posts won't have been carded so shouldn't play any part in the decision. If a poster is only allowed to comment on the post they are disputing the same rule should apply to mods. There's plenty of examples of a Cmod threatening to implement bans on other posts after a poster has disputed a card, hardly the type of behaviour to encourage posters to dispute their cards (probably his intention) or that's conducive to a fair system.

    This is exactly the point.


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    #655
    Zaph
    Registered Users, Subscribers Posts: 47,305 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    Jobs OXO wrote: »
    Could you do an analysis to outline what % of DRPs are actually successful?

    Here's a link to the DRF archive, knock yourself out.


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    #656
    Jobs OXO
    Closed Accounts Posts: 887 ✭✭✭Jobs OXO


    Zaph wrote: »
    Here's a link to the DRF archive, knock yourself out.

    Sound, but I asked a man a question. Could you allow HIM answer the question I asked HIM instead of piling in as per usual?


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    #657
    mikeybrennan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 869 ✭✭✭mikeybrennan


    D0NNELLY wrote: »
    The serial reregers do it cause it's a 2 min job to get a new email address. Constantly getting new SIM cards just wouldn't be worth the hassle

    Takes the same amount of time to order one as setup email


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    #658
    Zaph
    Registered Users, Subscribers Posts: 47,305 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    Jobs OXO wrote: »
    Sound, but I asked a man a question. Could you allow HIM answer the question I asked HIM instead of piling in as per usual?

    Given that the stats you're looking for aren't kept as a matter of course, it's as easy for you to go look for them yourself as it is for Mark to do the legwork given that there's no benefit to him in actually doing so.


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    #659
    Jobs OXO
    Closed Accounts Posts: 887 ✭✭✭Jobs OXO


    Zaph wrote: »
    Given that the stats you're looking for aren't kept as a matter of course, it's as easy for you to go look for them yourself as it is for Mark to do the legwork given that there's no benefit to him in actually doing so.

    Can he talk for himself ?


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    #660
    Zaph
    Registered Users, Subscribers Posts: 47,305 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    Jobs OXO wrote: »
    Can he talk for himself ?

    It's outside of office hours so he's not around right now so I'm offering you an alternative whereby you can get the information you want quicker.


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    #661
    Jobs OXO
    Closed Accounts Posts: 887 ✭✭✭Jobs OXO


    Zaph wrote: »
    It's outside of office hours so he's not around right now so I'm offering you an alternative whereby you can get the information you want quicker.

    Thanks but I will wait for him to respond tomorrow.


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