Install plug now?

antodeco

Hi all,
Getting an extension done on the house at the minute and I will be moving to EV in the next 2 - 3 years. I was wondering if it makes sense to get a plug installed now, or should I wait until closer to the time? Equally, is it a standard external plug, that the electrician can install fairly straightforward?

Thanks

Evd-Burner

No point in getting a plug(charger) installed at the moment but it would be good planning to put a 32amp capable cable in. Just leave either end secure in a junction box at either end. Then when it comes to getting an EV it's just a matter of doing the necessary hook up.

KCross

Evd-Burner wrote: »

No point in getting a plug(charger) installed at the moment but it would be good planning to put a 32amp capable cable in. Just leave either end secure in a junction box at either end. Then when it comes to getting an EV it's just a matter of doing the necessary hook up.

^^ This.

Just get the cable in as thats the only "hard" part.

So, at least, a 6sqmm cable (10sqmm if its 20m+ run) from your distribution board to the point on the outside wall where you want the charge point. You could terminate it as a standard outdoor 3 pin plug for the time being and then when you decide to get an EV you can change it to a proper EV charge point very easily.

antodeco

Thanks guys. The main board would only be 2 metres from where the plug would be, so no long running cables.

cros13

Agree that doing the cable run now would be the best thing.

If you wanted to spend a little more Rolec has a €100 outdoor socket that can be upgraded to a 32A Type 2 EV chargepoint in a few minutes. Provided you get an electrician to install 32A MCB on the distribution board when the socket is installed it's just six screws, three wires and pop out the faceplate.

https://www.yesss.co.uk/heating-ventilation-c5/ev-charging-c1694/charge-points-c1695/rolec-ev-ready-deep-base-wallpod-evwp0020-p23230

http://assets.rolecserv.com/files/products_document/52aecb6d48e55b4a2c1a9f28d8d545ef/original.pdf

ED E

Out of curiosity, anyone forsee EVs using CPs as data connections? Would it be worth running Cat5 to the point to prevent the need for EoP in future?

Evd-Burner

ED E wrote:

Out of curiosity, anyone forsee EVs using CPs as data connections? Would it be worth running Cat5 to the point to prevent the need for EoP in future?

No harm in running the cable. It would only cost a few euros. However I'd expect they would connect via wifi.

BoatMad

ED E wrote: »

Out of curiosity, anyone forsee EVs using CPs as data connections? Would it be worth running Cat5 to the point to prevent the need for EoP in future?

No , anything will be 4G /wifi , cables are sooooo 80s

cros13

I always run CAT6 just in case I want to put a wifi AP beside the chargepoint if BMW finally turns on the WiFi (the hardware is there) or if I move to a Tesla which can use the WiFi.

BoatMad

cros13 wrote: »

I always run CAT6 just in case I want to put a wifi AP beside the chargepoint if BMW finally turns on the WiFi (the hardware is there) or if I move to a Tesla which can use the WiFi.

Why not use a yaggi, get your wifi to " reach out "

Cables are so 80 s

cros13

BoatMad wrote: »

Why not use a yaggi, get your wifi to " reach out "

Cables are so 80 s

In the case of the apartment there are seven floors of concrete and steel apartment block in between.
With portlaoise there's foil coated insulation making the house a faraday cage.
With my place in Tipp the chargers are located in a garage/shed too far from the house and I need an AP there anyway.

I also use multiple APs in all because of the number of devices I have and throughput requirements. To ensure each AP only covers a small area at maximum throughput I dial back the power levels.

ED E

BoatMad wrote: »

Cables are so 80 s

Only in the home SOHO sector



Brings up a good point though, in the states 1 Account, 1 Number, 2 Sims has started to take off, similar would be perfect here to include cars (ICE or EV) but AFAIK we've none offering it. I understand premium cars have their own fleet deals but would be nice to give the owner that choice.

BoatMad

ED E wrote: »

Only in the home SOHO sector



Brings up a good point though, in the states 1 Account, 1 Number, 2 Sims has started to take off, similar would be perfect here to include cars (ICE or EV) but AFAIK we've none offering it. I understand premium cars have their own fleet deals but would be nice to give the owner that choice.

This is possible here , but gsm doesn't countenance cloned sims. So the network merely routes calls to a major number

It is possible to get multiple sims with grouped data usage but not at consumer level at present ( networks have no incentives to offer that )
You can buy such data sims online quite easily


The us tends to be behind Europe on mobile comms