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DCM 2017 Mentored Novices Thread
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Mind yourself, definitely rest x
Browneyes thanks. Had my 2nd ice bath, god it's like a form of torture! Physio had a quick examination of my knee as well. My peroneal tendons from my heel right into my knee are all very tender. It's all stemming from weak glutes. He gave me more Glute activation exercises to do. No running for at least 1 week. No more high mileage. He'll treat me properly on Wednesday but in the meantime he thinks I will make the start line but if I want to make the finish line I will need to rethink my goals as 'pace' rather than distance will cause the joint to lock again. So I may be targeting a 5 hr marathon but it's still a marathon right
That’s great news that you’ll make the start and a 5hr marathon is great! You’re very lucky to have a physio that will see you on a Sunday x0 -
Mind yourself, definitely rest x
Browneyes thanks. Had my 2nd ice bath, god it's like a form of torture! Physio had a quick examination of my knee as well. My peroneal tendons from my heel right into my knee are all very tender. It's all stemming from weak glutes. He gave me more Glute activation exercises to do. No running for at least 1 week. No more high mileage. He'll treat me properly on Wednesday but in the meantime he thinks I will make the start line but if I want to make the finish line I will need to rethink my goals as 'pace' rather than distance will cause the joint to lock again. So I may be targeting a 5 hr marathon but it's still a marathon right
That is brilliant news that you will make the day. What a relief.thunderdog wrote: »Got the 20 in today, took it fairly handy. Easily could have gone on for another 6.....metres!
Wore a gel belt today for the first time. Lower back a bit tender after it. I couldn't really figure out the best way to wear it. Most people with the pouch type ones seem to wear it with the pouch on their back so I did the same. No problem with it during the run which is the main thing!
Hope everyone's 20 milers went to plan
What belt did you use? I have a selection but the High 5 gel belt is great and super light. I also have the Nathan version of the flip belt and haven’t decided which i’ll Use for DCM. Both brilliant.Last few pages are proper full on battle mode here, amazing. Best of luck to Ariana and others who are going into taper after truly pushing their limits. Fantastic.
I havent had a decent LSR in three weeks for various reasons. I have only had two 27-28k runs so far and both were before the half marathon. I was looking forward to attempting 30+ this weekend but woke up last night with sore tummy, and wanting to throw up and now I have some body ache etc too. Sounds like LSR (and taper) will have to wait... Fingers crossed.
Get better soon.Hey all I've loads to catch up on, I'm on my phone on my way home from the 3/4 marathon so happy to have it done , I hit a wall at 19.5 miles I had to wall thought I was going to be sick but I didn't and hubby talked me through it and Neady if your reading your marathon report and what you wrote in your report, you ran your self in to this you can run your self out of it.
It was also great chatting to my fellow novices thanks so much for saying hello
I'll be back later to catch up and report in more detail now I will wobble in to kildare village hubby wants to look at runners lol
Well done. Was it a good race? Great to have it over with and be looking forward to taper now.0 -
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He said he would leave the key out for me to use the ice bath but he forgot so he popped down to open up for me and while he was there he just had a quick examination, he didn't treat me as such bit it's too soon anyhow with inflammation. He's so good I am lucky. He's more of a gaa man but he ran a marathon himself so he does get it.BrownEyes79 wrote: »That’s great news that you’ll make the start and a 5hr marathon is great! You’re very lucky to have a physio that will see you on a Sunday x
Baby well done today. You did brilliant.
KG I must check out those belts. I might need a new one as I'll have tonnes of gels now if I'm going for 5 hours
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RolandDeschain wrote: »Ariana, kellygirl, Damo.....hope ye are all better today. The miles are in the bank so hopefully the rest over the taper will see ye back in to condition for this day 3 weeks.
Well done to the folks that did the 3/4 marathon. Looks to be an interesting race. I must have a look at it myself next year.
Week 14 report
Really good week. All my runs were solid. Pacing was strong and consistent and motivation remained high from the half and 20 miler over the 2 weeks previous.
Monday - 5m easy
Tuesday - 5m paced at pmp
Wednesday - gym. Mostly upper body stuff
Thursday - 7m boards session. Really good. 8.30 average was comfortable.
Friday- gym. Deadlifts and core.
Saturday - 18m LSR up to howth summit. Hoping that the climbs on the long runs will have built endurance in my legs for the climbs at roebuck on race day.
Sunday - 4m recovery.
Tapering begins. Only 3 weeks. Nerves beginning to jangle a bit.
Well done on a great week! Mine was very similar except I replaced gym sessions with pint sessions
So far, so good, touch wood. At this point I nearly feel guilty for having had a trouble free 15 weeks. I just keep getting this horrible feeling that there has to be a curve ball ahead! 0 -
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He said he would leave the key out for me to use the ice bath but he forgot so he popped down to open up for me and while he was there he just had a quick examination, he didn't treat me as such bit it's too soon anyhow with inflammation. He's so good I am lucky. He's more of a gaa man but he ran a marathon himself so he does get it.
Baby well done today. You did brilliant.
KG I must check out those belts. I might need a new one as I'll have tonnes of gels now if I'm going for 5 hours
Both are great. Really don’t know which I’ll wear on the day - might come down to weather as the Nathan is material though it got soaked one day and still no problem. You’ll get use out of that on any run whereas the high 5 one you’d just use in a race really. It just takes 6 gels and has a pouch then which took my phone and a tissues or whatever else I carried.0 -
Both are great. Really don’t know which I’ll wear on the day - might come down to weather as the Nathan is material though it got soaked one day and still no problem. You’ll get use out of that on any run whereas the high 5 one you’d just use in a race really. It just takes 6 gels and has a pouch then which took my phone and a tissues or whatever else I carried.
Lippy? Eye shadow? Copy of RTE Guide?
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20 miles done - Like a stitch but much sharper. After the pain cleared a bit I took another two and it came back worse than ever. So back to just gels from now on. Confidence knocked a bit though as the last 10km was such a struggle. Not sure how I'll do another 10km on the day.
Anyway, it's done and Taper time!!!!
Well done on the 20 miler I hope the tummy is ok good you know what is triggering itWell that was a disaster
I cant even walk at the moment, i can't bend the offending knee at all. Sorry for the "poor me" post.
You poor thing, I hope they physio sorts you out and as others have said probably good timing you have time to strengthen and can hopefully get back running or cycle instead if needs be
It was a great event, everyone ran it as a training run loads of water, food, toilets and support from fellow runners and it was great meeting to other lovely ladies from here and I know they told me their usernames but I have gone blank now lovely running with them both for a whileWell done. Was it a good race? Great to have it over with and be looking forward to taper now.
Which brings me to how my longest run ever went!
I made a big mistake today,
I changed my watch to miles ( I was thinking it would help me not focus on how much I had left to do) nope!! I was not watching my pace as I am used to running in KM and know what my pace should be in KM
We started out very well, behind the 4hr 30 pacers, it was very congested and we moved up to get out of the way and just ahead of pacers. I was chatting to hubby and looking at my watch I thought I was running slow enough and before we knew it pacers were out of sight behind us. I felt ok so was not worried, I did wonder if it was a little fast and checked my watch but thought we were ok.
at some stage, I met up with one of our novices annapr it was great chatting and running along Hubby pulled away from us and I started to feel my right calf get tight so I slowed down a little, last I seen was annapr flying a long running very well. met with hubby at the water station and carried on and along cam next Anne and we chatted for a little I took your advice and stopped and stretched and actually got hubby to massage the tightness out,
I was worried at this point, I was afraid it would go and I would not be able to finish it was at this point the 4hr 30 paces passed us and I say we had about less than half the distance left to do, I realised I had ran too fast at the start and was feeling it, really hit a wall at around 6km left to go! once I got through that I kept going and was even able to speed up at the finish.
My confidence is knocked though how I felt for the last 12 km of today's LSR keeps playing on my mind, knowing on marathon day I have that again ec
extra to run not sure if I could.
I am worried I have not done enough or my LSR maybe should have been longer, I have totally changed my time goal to 5hrs or more or to just finish now
well done to everyone I hope all niggles go quickly and we are all in flying form come DCM
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It was a great event, everyone ran it as a training run loads of water, food, toilets and support from fellow runners and it was great meeting to other lovely ladies from here and I know they told me their usernames but I have gone blank now lovely running with them both for a while
Which brings me to how my longest run ever went!
I made a big mistake today,
I changed my watch to miles ( I was thinking it would help me not focus on how much I had left to do) nope!! I was not watching my pace as I am used to running in KM and know what my pace should be in KM
We started out very well, behind the 4hr 30 pacers, it was very congested and we moved up to get out of the way and just ahead of pacers. I was chatting to hubby and looking at my watch I thought I was running slow enough and before we knew it pacers were out of sight behind us. I felt ok so was not worried, I did wonder if it was a little fast and checked my watch but thought we were ok.
at some stage, I met up with one of our novices annapr it was great chatting and running along Hubby pulled away from us and I started to feel my right calf get tight so I slowed down a little, last I seen was annapr flying a long running very well. met with hubby at the water station and carried on and along cam next Anne and we chatted for a little I took your advice and stopped and stretched and actually got hubby to massage the tightness out,
I was worried at this point, I was afraid it would go and I would not be able to finish it was at this point the 4hr 30 paces passed us and I say we had about less than half the distance left to do, I realised I had ran too fast at the start and was feeling it, really hit a wall at around 6km left to go! once I got through that I kept going and was even able to speed up at the finish.
My confidence is knocked though how I felt for the last 12 km of today's LSR keeps playing on my mind, knowing on marathon day I have that again ec
extra to run not sure if I could.
I am worried I have not done enough or my LSR maybe should have been longer, I have totally changed my time goal to 5hrs or more or to just finish now
well done to everyone I hope all niggles go quickly and we are all in flying form come DCM
Sorry for the essay
I bet you have learned loads from today so sounds like it was great. Worth doing it for that alone i’d say.
Firstly you kept going and things got better again so you need to remember that on the day when you go through a bad stage.
Secondly, you were running on tired legs with no taper - and got ahead of the pacers. A post in the last few pages mentioned 10-15 seconds per km or mile at the start can make a big difference later on. You’ll be much fresher on marathon day.
Interesting about you changing to miles. I thought about doing that as I made a paceband for yesterday’s run and obviously would be smaller if miles as opposed to kms.0 -
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I bet you have learned loads from today so sounds like it was great. Worth doing it for that alone i’d say.
Firstly you kept going and things got better again so you need to remember that on the day when you go through a bad stage.
Secondly, you were running on tired legs with no taper - and got ahead of the pacers. A post in the last few pages mentioned 10-15 seconds per km or mile at the start can make a big difference later on. You’ll be much fresher on marathon day.
Interesting about you changing to miles. I thought about doing that as I made a paceband for yesterday’s run and obviously would be smaller if miles as opposed to kms.
Thanks so much, a good friend said the same so it is reassuring
I am amazed how changing to miles, threw me off so much, in the end, I was watching the KM markers and it was great seeing them get 30 KM it was to late to change my watch back so left it.
Now chaffing anyone any quick cures! unfortunately, I have had a falling out with my sports bra after today and the state of me, I used anti-chaffing cream as well!! 0 -
Thanks so much, a good friend said the same so it is reassuring
I am amazed how changing to miles, threw me off so much, in the end, I was watching the KM markers and it was great seeing them get 30 KM it was to late to change my watch back so left it.
Now chaffing anyone any quick cures! unfortunately, I have had a falling out with my sports bra after today and the state of me, I used anti-chaffing cream as well!!
Teatree oil - I have used that and takes the sting away. Usually i’m ok the next day, it’s just the initial shower that stings like hell. What cream did you use? I find Body Glide great. Still miss the odd spot but I coat myself in it.0 -
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Week 16
A very mixed bag to say the least for the 2017 Novices. Some unreal performances on the last LSRs (including the 3/4 Marathon) before the taper begins. We also had the first Novice meetup, with maybe another to follow. Unfortunately some of our most active Novices are now on the treatment table!
I can't predict with any accuracy what may happen with your physio visits. All I can say really is, best of luck, and whatever happens now you've got the hard work done, so try not to worry too much and fingers crossed the breaks will go in your favour.
I'm so proud of the efforts from everyone here the last few months. Who would have predicted we'd be on the brink of running a marathon this year?
Even though we're now in the taper period, it's not as if you're stopping altogether, more winding down gradually. Hence, both plans have the same number of runs, just with less mileage. So eat, sleep and hydrate as well as you can, because the date with destiny is getting ever nearer!
@statina, congrats on your 20 miler, I would take that in a heartbeat, and not be concerned about trying to bag another so near the main event. This is what we mean when we talk about not trying to chase lost miles Same rules apply to anyone else considering similar
Thanks again to all my collaborators. It means a lot, especially when I've had a very busy weekend of my own
Plans for next week as follows:-
HHN1: Rest + 5M easy + 8M easy + 4M easy + Rest + 12M LSR + cross
Boards: (Rest/cross/3M rec) + 5M easy + 5M easy + 5M easy + (Rest/cross/3M rec) + 14M LSR + (rest/cross/3M rec)
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Thanks so much, a good friend said the same so it is reassuring
I am amazed how changing to miles, threw me off so much, in the end, I was watching the KM markers and it was great seeing them get 30 KM it was to late to change my watch back so left it.
Now chaffing anyone any quick cures! unfortunately, I have had a falling out with my sports bra after today and the state of me, I used anti-chaffing cream as well!!
Browneyes, Lazare.... 0 -
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Mind yourself, definitely rest x
Browneyes thanks. Had my 2nd ice bath, god it's like a form of torture! Physio had a quick examination of my knee as well. My peroneal tendons from my heel right into my knee are all very tender. It's all stemming from weak glutes. He gave me more Glute activation exercises to do. No running for at least 1 week. No more high mileage. He'll treat me properly on Wednesday but in the meantime he thinks I will make the start line but if I want to make the finish line I will need to rethink my goals as 'pace' rather than distance will cause the joint to lock again. So I may be targeting a 5 hr marathon but it's still a marathon right
Hey ariana. Sorry to hear about the injury and hopefully you get back on the road soon. I probably should've piped up earlier but I see this so often in logs and threads and rarely get listened to when I say it so have given up the ghost on saying it most of the time(not said it here I think but just years of it In general).
You guys will have to slow up on the training runs. I see so many posts here about runs at marathon pace, close to MP or even faster on long runs and easy runs. A lot of you guys are getting overuse injuries, too many tbh and a lot of that stems from running too hard when you shouldn't be. Pretty much all of you guys are running more mileage than ever before and some considerably more and this does take it's toll for sure but I don't think the mileage is the major contributor here. Running as hard as a lot of you guys do when you are supposed to be running easy is the major factor imo. it doesn't give your muscles a chance to recover properly so they become tighter and overworked, add to this that running faster uses a greater range of motion when something is tight and you get the idea.
It's a classic novice mistake but easy runs and those paces are there for a reason, this is what training has become through over a 100 years of honing by some of the greatest coaches in history through experience and 100's of thousands of athletes before you guys. it feels unreal to blast out fast runs all the time but with experience comes knowledge that you have to manage that too with discipline and realise when it's time to push and time to hold back. There's an old saying about easy runs which goes that you should be embarrassed running that pace if a friend sees you. The purpose of them is to recover and improve low intensity fitness.0 -
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Thanks so much, a good friend said the same so it is reassuring
I am amazed how changing to miles, threw me off so much, in the end, I was watching the KM markers and it was great seeing them get 30 KM it was to late to change my watch back so left it.
Now chaffing anyone any quick cures! unfortunately, I have had a falling out with my sports bra after today and the state of me, I used anti-chaffing cream as well!!
Even though it hurt you yesterday you should probably wear the same bra on marathon day since it’s broken in now!! If you wear a different one you’ll prob have the same problem but in new spots!
Skyblue have you no advice on sports bras.....:D 0
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