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scotindublin wrote: »Are you using a GPS watch Ariana? This should help you to maintain a consistent pace for the PMP.
I am in no way advocating that we have to become slaves to watches etc; I just think that running to a set pace is a tricky skill to master for relative novice runners over time and as you become more experienced it will be easier to judge pace by feel alone.
Yes, i have a garmin, my problem seems to be that i get chatting with friends or enjoying the scenery and forget to look at it very often
I guess if i read the manual i could probably set a target pace with alerts if i'm going too fast/too slow, i just need to make the time to figure it out.
I have my easy pace fairly down without the watch but pmp tends to be anything that is faster than easy and that's a pretty big range 0 -
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What if you set your Garmin to autolap every say 500m? At least it would beep/vibrate and prompt you to check your pace...if you have the easy pace down without your watch then it won't take you too long to get a feel for PMP also.
Wubble might be along to suggest some naked running aswell ( don't worry it is fully clothed just without your watch/phone for pacing!).Yes, i have a garmin, my problem seems to be that i get chatting with friends or enjoying the scenery and forget to look at it very often I guess if i read the manual i could probably set a target pace with alerts if i'm going too fast/too slow, i just need to make the time to figure it out.
I have my easy pace fairly down without the watch but pmp tends to be anything that is faster than easy and that's a pretty big range0 -
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I never thought of setting a shorter lap time, it's at the default. Good idea, i'll try it thanks.
Its good that you were faster than PMP - so you'll get an extra training effect there - but doing it too often will mean your body wont be training itself to run with its own fuel at that pace. You'll keep on dipping into reserves by doing faster stuff.
On race day you'll have pacers etc to keep you in check, but you certainly want your body trained before that to know what PMP is.
Anyway, if your laughing and joking while doing a PMP run at HMP then this marathon will be a breeze to you
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Had my lunch time run, great day in dublin to get out. Dry, light breeze and a bit of sun. Did 8.5 km in 44.19. Average pace of 5:16 km. Guzzled the protein milk after it! Felt really good after it and really glad I got out.
Have a 5k park run on sat morning and then going for a 10 k Sunday night. Literally cant wait. (Plus all that Premiership football in between ) 0 -
AuldManKing wrote: »Its good that you were faster than PMP - so you'll get an extra training effect there - but doing it too often will mean your body wont be training itself to run with its own fuel at that pace. You'll keep on dipping into reserves by doing faster stuff.
On race day you'll have pacers etc to keep you in check, but you certainly want your body trained before that to know what PMP is.
Anyway, if your laughing and joking while doing a PMP run at HMP then this marathon will be a breeze to you
I wouldn't quite say this. I can talk at HMP but i do find as time goes on i get closer to just 1 word answers. I mostly run on my own but about once a week i run with a few friends and i enjoy the company. They tend to run easy but there's 1 girl who's a bit faster than me so i was hoping her easy would be my pmp but i think her easy might be my hmp (she says it's me who's pushing the pace) I might try to run with them on an easy day and stay with the slower group.
Are there many pace groups for the marathon. Its early days but say i go for 4:20:00? Or would i have to choose either 4:15 or 4:30?0 -
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I believe there are pacers ever 10 minutes from 3.00 hr pace.....one thing I would suggest is if you are doing the race series 1/2 run with one of the pace groups during that.....just to get a feel for what it is like.
The pacers give great encouragement during the marathon ( at least this was my impression from last year).I wouldn't quite say this. I can talk at HMP but i do find as time goes on i get closer to just 1 word answers. I mostly run on my own but about once a week i run with a few friends and i enjoy the company. They tend to run easy but there's 1 girl who's a bit faster than me so i was hoping her easy would be my pmp but i think her easy might be my hmp (she says it's me who's pushing the pace) I might try to run with them on an easy day and stay with the slower group.
Are there many pace groups for the marathon. Its early days but say i go for 4:20:00? Or would i have to choose either 4:15 or 4:30?0 -
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12 mile LSR done. Only 4 more long long runs to do now before the looooong run is how I'm looking at it. Not a bad run, average pace of 12:39. I had a quick break at 7 miles for a wee, a gel and some water, had everything laid out ready so that I didn't stop for long.
Back in the day, I would sometimes have a pro plus, caffeine tablet, after a heavy night to get through work the next day, they were great but then I found sometimes that you would really crash once the effect wore off. Any evidence or discussions about whether the same can happen with gels?
Gels are fuel. You take them to ensure you don't run out of fuel during prolonged exercise. After the finish line you will probably crash but a pizza and lots of pints will fix that!
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I have started back running again after nearly two weeks of not running at all.
Over the last two weeks I have been cycling a long - including a really long one - 240 odd kilometers, 10+ hours moving time. In total I would have done over 700 kms over cycling including couple of goes at Mamore Gap. I understand that cycling can never really replace running but surely it would help build endurance and I suppose train the mental game of "sticking with it" thru rain, aches and pains. Here's hoping.
Anyway, back to running today and did a gentle 13k @ 6m/km pace, usual niggles - left ankle protests first and then it fades, right thigh moans a bit, and then it's the left knee, but after about 5k everything is calm and you are just moving along and after stopping, for the first time my legs felt lighter (instead of the usual dead tired feel I used to get). Perhaps something to do with the cycling. Anyway, back to running 100% now and looking forward 20k LSR on Saturday.
I'll declare an interest here. Cycling is a magnificent sport. It has been my lifelong interest. However there is zero correlation between running and cycling ability. Most good cyclists couldn't run to save their lives. Sure isn't it a known fact that triathlon was invented for those who couldn't make it as cyclists?
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I guess it's all relative - considering where I am coming from - lead 'sitter' of Club CouchPotato, any activity I do will help my running I suppose. This may not translate to those who are already reasonably fit and good at cycling or running. 0
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I guess it's all relative - considering where I am coming from - lead 'sitter' of Club CouchPotato, any activity I do will help my running I suppose. This may not translate to those who are already reasonably fit and good at cycling or running.
Oh both will undoubtedly boost your fitness! As someone who spent 30 years on that couch ( or more accurately on a high stool 5 nights a week ) I can appreciate your efforts. One thing I have learned here though is that the marathon is a special beast that needs lots of running. It stresses the body so much, not just the normal indicators of fitness.0 -
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A question on paces and watches!! I run with my hubby most of the time ( well I should say I run behind him) But can watches really differ in pace!! last night my watch said 6-minute pace and he was in front telling me it was slow at 6.30-minute :D:D I have a Tom Tom he has a Gramin :eek: that is a big difference to me!
It does not really matter in the grand scheme of things on till it is our LSR and pace is important and I am running it too fast
or am I
Otherwise, the week is going well, I am looking forward to my run tonight and then LSR on Sunday I am a little nervous but looking forward to it as well.
Muddypaws, you still going to Galeforce next week 0 -
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This is the one i got actually. It's less expensive than the one i linked earlier. Sorry about that.
The bottles are smaller than the one i posted earlier, 200ml compared to 300ml but it's enough for me, as i say so far i've still had at least 1 full bottle to knock back at the end of the run.Bought!!!
... and received!!! Can't wait to try it out on the next long run.
Probably a really stupid question, but what are the dangly bits for?0
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