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DCM 2017 Mentored Novices Thread
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clickerquicklic wrote: »I'm probably guilty of overthinking things ! strava can be a curse sometimes when you look at other peoples history's who ran faster 10 mile times and didn't go on to do a sub 1.30 half marathon. I think your right though i'll just man up and race this one , kinda regretting not racing the Frank Duffy not nice to leave a race feeling you didn't push yourself to the max.
I'll set out with the 1.30 pacers and smash the second half to come in under. Does anyone know what way the pacers will approach it considering second half is much easier? Even if I blow up and run 1.40 maybe that's an experience I should have pre marathon.
Haha, I forgot you hadn't 'raced' the 10! I'm running to Paddy Powers now to bet on you running sub 1:30
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leesider77 wrote: »I'm really in two minds about this HM. I've signed up as part of this race series but not sure how much benefit I'll get if it's a tough course. Don't want to de moralize myself by finding it so tough that I won't be able to visualize myself running twice as long. How is it in reality? FD and fingal were no bother but think this is a step up from a hill perspective.
It looks like a tough course to me too, getting the correct pacing strategy will be important.
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scotindublin wrote: »When I passed the DJ/Band in Castleknock during the marathon last year they were playing Born to Run by the legend that is Springsteen.
Very apt and had a good laugh at that.
Ah, now that'd be a lot more up my street than the drivel played on Saturday.
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Okay, I'm out!
As planned, I did 2-3 miles yesterday (3.85km @ 7:12 pace) and it was actually a lot harder than it should have been. But I had a nice rest for the rest of the day and fuelled up, and went to bed early and woke this morning nervous at the prospect of 15 miles, but otherwise fine - not tired, no aches, raring to go.
I was conscious that this might just be too soon after the FD10 and had in mind AMK's advice about cutting it short after a few miles if I felt I wasn't up for it. But the first 9 or so kilometres were grand, enjoyable even. And the next 9km were tiring but doable. Then at about 19km I had to stop for about 30 seconds to cross the road at traffic, and maybe it was that, but I found it very hard to get going again. At 20km, I stopped to walk. I hadn't even made it to half marathon distance
I thought after a short walk I might be able to run again and continue, but I just couldn't. It wasn't cramp or muscle strain or anything. It was merely pure fatigue. I completed the full distance, 24.57km at an overall pace of 8:13. But I only ran 20km of it and then had the "long walk of shame" back home.
So, feeling pretty depressed about it. I didn't even make 14 miles which was what I'd done two weeks ago, never mind go on and do 15 miles. I can't see how I can ever do 26 of them.
I'll still do the HM, but I'm feeling highly doubtful about the DCM. Obviously this is all within an hour of arriving home so at the height of my disappointment and negativity. Give it a few hours, or overnight and hopefully I'll be looking at it with different perspective again and ready to give it a shot.
First 9km done at a pace of 7:33, next 11km before I stopped was slower at 7:54. I don't feel like the problem was that I went out too quickly. Maybe it was just too soon after FD10. Maybe I really need to start looking at how I fuel. I've been resistant to "processed" fuel like gels and tried to stay with healthier options instead. Maybe I need to give up that strategy and just go with the gels so I can sustain the energy I need. I've a lot to think about.....0 -
Okay, I'm out!
As planned, I did 2-3 miles yesterday (3.85km @ 7:12 pace) and it was actually a lot harder than it should have been. But I had a nice rest for the rest of the day and fuelled up, and went to bed early and woke this morning nervous at the prospect of 15 miles, but otherwise fine - not tired, no aches, raring to go.
I was conscious that this might just be too soon after the FD10 and had in mind AMK's advice about cutting it short after a few miles if I felt I wasn't up for it. But the first 9 or so kilometres were grand, enjoyable even. And the next 9km were tiring but doable. Then at about 19km I had to stop for about 30 seconds to cross the road at traffic, and maybe it was that, but I found it very hard to get going again. At 20km, I stopped to walk. I hadn't even made it to half marathon distance I thought after a short walk I might be able to run again and continue, but I just couldn't. It wasn't cramp or muscle strain or anything. It was merely pure fatigue. I completed the full distance, 24.57km at an overall pace of 8:13. But I only ran 20km of it and then had the "long walk of shame" back home.
So, feeling pretty depressed about it. I didn't even make 14 miles which was what I'd done two weeks ago, never mind go on and do 15 miles. I can't see how I can ever do 26 of them.
I'll still do the HM, but I'm feeling highly doubtful about the DCM. Obviously this is all within an hour of arriving home so at the height of my disappointment and negativity. Give it a few hours, or overnight and hopefully I'll be looking at it with different perspective again and ready to give it a shot.
First 9km done at a pace of 7:33, next 11km before I stopped was slower at 7:54. I don't feel like the problem was that I went out too quickly. Maybe it was just too soon after FD10. Maybe I really need to start looking at how I fuel. I've been resistant to "processed" fuel like gels and tried to stay with healthier options instead. Maybe I need to give up that strategy and just go with the gels so I can sustain the energy I need. I've a lot to think about.....
Dont lose heart yet QB. I think it may be a case of not giving your body enough time after the 10 Miler. You pushed yourself very hard and did extremely well on Saturday and Id say maybe your body hasnt fully recovered yet.
Going out yesterday and today for a long one was probably too much too soon after the FD.
I havent done anything since Saturday, planning a 4/5 mile today after feeling quite achy on Sunday.0 -
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Wubble Wubble wrote: »Not me I'm afraid. I was in two spots, but nowhere near the zoo
Ah, your a dark horse LOL I noticed a few people shouting support and I either gave the thumbs up or said thank you
Quickbeam massive well done on getting out so soon after the FD10mile and I agree with beakerjoe I say your still tired after the great run you had on Saturday, I bet you will feel better about it later on.
I know for a fact I would have been able to attempt that today, I know 3 miles will be hard tonight.I am still tired and a little akey from Saturday. I went out for an easy cycle with my friend yesterday and I faded at the end could not wait to get back home.0 -
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Okay, I'm out!
As planned, I did 2-3 miles yesterday (3.85km @ 7:12 pace) and it was actually a lot harder than it should have been. But I had a nice rest for the rest of the day and fuelled up, and went to bed early and woke this morning nervous at the prospect of 15 miles, but otherwise fine - not tired, no aches, raring to go.
I was conscious that this might just be too soon after the FD10 and had in mind AMK's advice about cutting it short after a few miles if I felt I wasn't up for it. But the first 9 or so kilometres were grand, enjoyable even. And the next 9km were tiring but doable. Then at about 19km I had to stop for about 30 seconds to cross the road at traffic, and maybe it was that, but I found it very hard to get going again. At 20km, I stopped to walk. I hadn't even made it to half marathon distance I thought after a short walk I might be able to run again and continue, but I just couldn't. It wasn't cramp or muscle strain or anything. It was merely pure fatigue. I completed the full distance, 24.57km at an overall pace of 8:13. But I only ran 20km of it and then had the "long walk of shame" back home.
So, feeling pretty depressed about it. I didn't even make 14 miles which was what I'd done two weeks ago, never mind go on and do 15 miles. I can't see how I can ever do 26 of them.
I'll still do the HM, but I'm feeling highly doubtful about the DCM. Obviously this is all within an hour of arriving home so at the height of my disappointment and negativity. Give it a few hours, or overnight and hopefully I'll be looking at it with different perspective again and ready to give it a shot.
This is exactly how I was feeling on Saturday, I've done longer runs, what the hell is wrong with me? if I hadn't made such a public thing about doing DCM, I would have quit on Saturday as well.
I know I've said this a couple of times, but I honestly cannot believe how naive I was about this undertaking. When you see people of different shapes, sizes and ages, doing marathons on the TV, I for one, thought, how hard can it be really? The answer is f*cking hard. It isn't just the running, its the whole eating and sleeping properly thing, I'm used to having breakfast, sometimes missing lunch because I'm too busy, or I just forget, late dinner, late to bed. Things like that have to change with this amount of exercise, its the discipline to do those things that I am worrying about - because yes, I did have to stay up to watch the last GOT at 2am on Monday morning.
My training buddy has another training buddy who unfortunately has had to decide to mainly walk DCM due to injury, she will jog some, but will walk the majority of it, she is still doing it though. Now I may end up sticking with her, who knows, when the time comes, but I will be there lining up and I will get to the end. You've paid your money, you can't get it back, or defer, you are in with this bunch of crazy people, so keep on keeping on, get the miles in, walking or running, the atmosphere on the day will be a huge lift - so I'm assured
Please take heart in knowing that I was feeling exactly the same at the weekend, and I am absolutely dreading my 15 miler on Saturday, but after the 10 mile race, I now know not to push myself too hard, to jog and walk if necessary, but just to keep moving forward.
Please stick with it, there's not many of us plodders on here 0 -
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Okay, I'm out!
As planned, I did 2-3 miles yesterday (3.85km @ 7:12 pace) and it was actually a lot harder than it should have been. But I had a nice rest for the rest of the day and fuelled up, and went to bed early and woke this morning nervous at the prospect of 15 miles, but otherwise fine - not tired, no aches, raring to go.
I was conscious that this might just be too soon after the FD10 and had in mind AMK's advice about cutting it short after a few miles if I felt I wasn't up for it. But the first 9 or so kilometres were grand, enjoyable even. And the next 9km were tiring but doable. Then at about 19km I had to stop for about 30 seconds to cross the road at traffic, and maybe it was that, but I found it very hard to get going again. At 20km, I stopped to walk. I hadn't even made it to half marathon distance I thought after a short walk I might be able to run again and continue, but I just couldn't. It wasn't cramp or muscle strain or anything. It was merely pure fatigue. I completed the full distance, 24.57km at an overall pace of 8:13. But I only ran 20km of it and then had the "long walk of shame" back home.
So, feeling pretty depressed about it. I didn't even make 14 miles which was what I'd done two weeks ago, never mind go on and do 15 miles. I can't see how I can ever do 26 of them.
I'll still do the HM, but I'm feeling highly doubtful about the DCM. Obviously this is all within an hour of arriving home so at the height of my disappointment and negativity. Give it a few hours, or overnight and hopefully I'll be looking at it with different perspective again and ready to give it a shot.
First 9km done at a pace of 7:33, next 11km before I stopped was slower at 7:54. I don't feel like the problem was that I went out too quickly. Maybe it was just too soon after FD10. Maybe I really need to start looking at how I fuel. I've been resistant to "processed" fuel like gels and tried to stay with healthier options instead. Maybe I need to give up that strategy and just go with the gels so I can sustain the energy I need. I've a lot to think about.....
Nope - you're not out - we're not letting you leave - simple as that.
Obviously fatigue was in the legs following the FD - it takes a few days for the body to recover - it also takes a longer time for it to adapt to a training session.
Neither has happened yet.
Don't loose heart just yet - brush off the long run and move on with the plan as is - dont try and catch up.
Keep with i til the half and I promise you will feel better - you'll also have the knowledge that you need more recovery following a longer session such as a 10m or a HM.
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