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DCM 2017 Mentored Novices Thread
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Sillymoo it'll all be ok!
I think I know how you feel - I missed a few LSRs due injury and really feel like I'm playing catch up now, but we'll get as much as we can done and get to the start line. Why not do this weeks LSR on Tuesday and next weeks on Sunday. If you need to ditch one or two of the midweek sessions due time constraints, so be it, but I think it'll be more important to get the LSRs done. Both from a physical training and psychological POV. And don't forget to keep your rest days in the schedule too.0 -
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Sillymoo it'll all be ok!
I think I know how you feel - I missed a few LSRs due injury and really feel like I'm playing catch up now, but we'll get as much as we can done and get to the start line. Why not do this weeks LSR on Tuesday and next weeks on Sunday. If you need to ditch one or two of the midweek sessions due time constraints, so be it, but I think it'll be more important to get the LSRs done. Both from a physical training and psychological POV. And don't forget to keep your rest days in the schedule too.
Thanks Candamir, feeling a little better now 0 -
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Weekly report
Still playing catch up, and while it's great to read all the reports of you lot hitting your 16m and 20m targets, I'm not going to pretend that it's not making me panic just a bit!
Mon 3.5m @8:33. Was a 'kind of' tempo run for me. Felt really tough though - I'm putting that down to the two glasses of wine I had the night before, getting to bed late, and being jet lagged after arriving in from Chicago the day before. Broke all my conquering jetlag rules!!
Saw the physio - happy with progress and he gave me a new set of homework exercises - including lots of squats and lunges with weights - has warned me that I might get a bit of muscle soreness with them. And he was right!
Tues 7m @9:09. Pace run. Felt a lot better than Monday - early to bed and no alcohol helps. Who would have thunk it! Pilates in the evening.
Wed. Switched the plan around a bit as I was heading to LAX - rest day.
Thurs 14m LSR. First 7/8 miles felt good @ about 9:30 pace. Next few were really tough. Just felt like o had no energy in my legs at all. I stopped for water after 11m - stopped for too long and drank too much cos it tasted oh so good. Found it really hard to get going again - miles 12/13/14 were @ 10:34, 10:17 and 10:05. Was actually beginning to feel a bit better by mile 14, but was never so happy to be finished a run. Probably the only run I've ever felt that I might bail on. Also had all the usual 'wtf am I doing thinking I can run a marathon' thoughts.
I usually do my physio straight after running, but left them til the evening
Looking back, I ran on empty and didn't have any fuel with me, so that might be partly to blame for completely running out of steam.
Fri 4m recovery run. Nice easy pace and felt ok again
Sat/Sun rest days. Thought I might get in a bit of cross but horrible jetlag (broke the rules again after getting home Saturday - 2 glasses of wine and a late night). Managed my physio though and back in the saddle tomorrow!
I'm having a bit of a debate with myself regarding what to do this week. My revised plan to get me back on track has me doing 16m LSR this week followed by 18m LSR next week (can't do the series half as I'm working). I'm just a bit concerned that I'll have missed 2 LSRs due injury, then done 10m/14m/16m/18m before I get a stepback. Is it too much? On the other hand I really want to get in the 18 and 20 milers and if I take an earlier step back I can't see how I can fit them in. Any thoughts??0 -
Some great reports this week - great long runs, disappointing DNF's, nasty niggles - this is marathon training, folks.
2 key messages this week:
(1) Its 6 weeks to Race Week.
You can accomplish so much in the coming 6 weeks.
Take a note of your weaknesses so far and target these.
The next 3-4 weeks are key for the long runs - you must get these in - prioritise them over everything.
(2) Its 6 weeks to Race Week
You can do so much damage in the coming 6 weeks.
Don't push mileage over and beyond in order to 'catch up'.
Don't compare yourself to other runners - this is a cardinal sin and a big mistake - everyone is at different levels.
Just because person x has 3 great long runs, does NOT mean that your race will be sh!te.
Its your race, your training - own it, be proud of it and don't compare it.0 -
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Hi, I can certainly feel the rewards...... of not sticking to the plan.
After an aborted attempt at last weeks LSR on Saturday (ran out of steam after Parkrun), I managed to run 20k on Monday night. I felt I could have kept going another while but I had to get back to mind kids. Tuesday was rest (and err... taper...
) as Wednesday was Grant Thornton 5k (new PB). Logistics are hard when your mode of commute is motorbike and work is 70k from home, and run is half way between the two. Thursday was a case of lazyness and work kept my busy well into late Friday evening. Saturday morning, another attack of lazyness. Up bright and early this morning but again.. just didn't feel it, but I knew I had to had to get out and do the LSR. Ate too much and suddenly got interested in all sorts of things like how to prune clematis to how pillows are made, ate some more, hopefully waiting for more rain or a thunderstorm or something - I guess I was looking for an excuse out. Fortunately there wasn't any, got out and the first 5k were horrible with a stomach full of food. Strong wind and passing squalls kept me company during the otherwise empty Oldbridge estate, there were about 3 hardy dog walkers who crossed my path about 6 times, that's about it. With all those missed runs, I can really feel I gone back a bit - ended up walking time to time - couple of stops to stretch out the left hamstring etc. In the end I did a very very slow 27k in around 3 hours before stumbling into the kitchen completely shattered.
I have way more respect for a marathon now than I have ever had - and this is probably my last chance to rise up to the challenge and stick with the plan. Fair play to you hardy folks out there... hard as nuts!0 -
Feeling sick today again so no run
I feel panic rising now! I feel like every run should be longer or faster than prescribed and I know "trust the plan" but it's getting harder to... 7 weeks and 3 are taper so really only 4 weeks of hard training, yikes.
I wish I had done more in the last 4week's or 4 months even!! No point I know I know but can't help the panicky feeling that's hitting me.
I think the fact I'd no lsr this weekend isn't helping but no point crying over spilt milk right.
I've done 2 x16m & 1x18m and I'm still hoping to squeeze in 2 x 20m & 1 x 18m in the next 4 week's, so that will be 6 runs over 16 miles so that's good right?
Some of you have had fantastic weekends, well done to all and I hope you're all relaxing tonight with the feet up enjoying a beer after taking Epsom salts baths
Sillymoo let us not panic yet, we can do this! I'm going to do my medium long run tomorrow cos I need to do something a bit long to settle my nerves. God help us!0 -
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Ariana,if u do that mileage,over the next few weeks,you have nothing to worry about.Relax,ur flying it,from,reading back through the log.Feeling sick today again so no run
I feel panic rising now! I feel like every run should be longer or faster than prescribed and I know "trust the plan" but it's getting harder to... 7 weeks and 3 are taper so really only 4 weeks of hard training, yikes.
I wish I had done more in the last 4week's or 4 months even!! No point I know I know but can't help the panicky feeling that's hitting me.
I think the fact I'd no lsr this weekend isn't helping but no point crying over spilt milk right.
I've done 2 x16m & 1x18m and I'm still hoping to squeeze in 2 x 20m & 1 x 18m in the next 4 week's, so that will be 6 runs over 16 miles so that's good right?
Some of you have had fantastic weekends, well done to all and I hope you're all relaxing tonight with the feet up enjoying a beer after taking Epsom salts baths
Sillymoo let us not panic yet, we can do this! I'm going to do my medium long run tomorrow cos I need to do something a bit long to settle my nerves. God help us!0 -
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Feeling sick today again so no run
I feel panic rising now! I feel like every run should be longer or faster than prescribed and I know "trust the plan" but it's getting harder to... 7 weeks and 3 are taper so really only 4 weeks of hard training, yikes.
I wish I had done more in the last 4week's or 4 months even!! No point I know I know but can't help the panicky feeling that's hitting me.
I think the fact I'd no lsr this weekend isn't helping but no point crying over spilt milk right.
I've done 2 x16m & 1x18m and I'm still hoping to squeeze in 2 x 20m & 1 x 18m in the next 4 week's, so that will be 6 runs over 16 miles so that's good right?
Some of you have had fantastic weekends, well done to all and I hope you're all relaxing tonight with the feet up enjoying a beer after taking Epsom salts baths
Sillymoo let us not panic yet, we can do this! I'm going to do my medium long run tomorrow cos I need to do something a bit long to settle my nerves. God help us!
I think you should relax, big time. The stress will do you more harm than 2 missed days of running. You have a serious bank of training behind you which minimises the damage even more. There are many on here who only started to train in April/May/June from a zero base who are missing runs. I've no doubt you are one of the best prepared here. So relax and have a couple of those beers yourself and don't try shoehorning too many very long runs in so close to the race. 0 -
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Feeling sick today again so no run
I feel panic rising now! I feel like every run should be longer or faster than prescribed and I know "trust the plan" but it's getting harder to... 7 weeks and 3 are taper so really only 4 weeks of hard training, yikes.
I wish I had done more in the last 4week's or 4 months even!! No point I know I know but can't help the panicky feeling that's hitting me.
I think the fact I'd no lsr this weekend isn't helping but no point crying over spilt milk right.
I've done 2 x16m & 1x18m and I'm still hoping to squeeze in 2 x 20m & 1 x 18m in the next 4 week's, so that will be 6 runs over 16 miles so that's good right?
Some of you have had fantastic weekends, well done to all and I hope you're all relaxing tonight with the feet up enjoying a beer after taking Epsom salts baths
Sillymoo let us not panic yet, we can do this! I'm going to do my medium long run tomorrow cos I need to do something a bit long to settle my nerves. God help us!
Wait until you are 100% better to attempt a run. If you don't let your body recover you'll risk being out for longer. You have a great base now so trust it and focus on getting better.0 -
I've done 2 x16m & 1x18m and I'm still hoping to squeeze in 2 x 20m & 1 x 18m in the next 4 week's, so that will be 6 runs over 16 miles so that's good right?
I have only done one LSR over 16 miles so far. Am I on the half marathon plan by mistake? Sure, it's my first marathon, if I can walk 42k, that would be a fantastic PB. 0 -
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Not looking likely. I'm on a 10-6 shift
Meetup looking unlikely for myself aswell, 7-2 in work and by that stage most people have done the LSR and all, I really need to get a few more morning runs in to prepare for the big day.
In regards to LSRs over a certain distance, im only up to 15 miles, and supposed to do a 16m this weekend but physio has told me to drop down to 14, meaning my next biggest run is the 20 miler so im right there in that boat with yous. When I put it like that I actually get a bit worried 0 -
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