Who is someone you inexplicably can't stand?

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RayM

PeterParker957 wrote: »

I know people who have not only had the word spat at them but were beaten up at the same time.

However, they know the difference between the use of a word in a bigoted context and a harmless song lyric.

Basically the gist is that once again those who think someone will be offended wants to change something when the actual group couldn't give two f***s.

CF this nonsense today:

http://metro.co.uk/2017/12/13/ucl-apologises-asking-students-dreaming-white-campus-7157665/

I've heard gay people complaining not so much about the lyric itself (which was never intended to be homophobic), but about the fact that a lot of straight people seem to be oddly protective of it, and when singing it, seem to get great enjoyment out of that particular line (it's not even the best line in the song - that honour must surely go to "I could have been someone... Well, so could anyone").

PeterParker957

RayM wrote: »

I've heard gay people complaining not so much about the lyric itself (which was never intended to be homophobic), but about the fact that a lot of straight people seem to be oddly protective of it, and when singing it, seem to get great enjoyment out of that particular line (it's not even the best line in the song - that honour must surely go to "I could have been someone... Well, so could anyone").

Up there with the best that one I'll give you. Not a patch on "Happy Christmas your arse, I pray God it's our last". The Grinch in me loves that !!

Tbh I can see why some people might have license to say a word they're not usually allowed to say but again it's context. Like someone I saw once doing Gold Digger at karaoke - the words on screen we're the "broke, broke..." version.

He sang the original.

Before being asked to leave. He meant it as "I want to say this word and now I can", I'm not sure the vast, vast majority sing the original Fairytale lyric with malice.

Omackeral

Thread on Fairytale of New York here now if you're interested.

https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057819833/1

retro:electro

The song should be banned because it's absolute shlte more than anything

freshpopcorn

Darren Kennedy, I find almost every part of him annoying!

branie2

Hector. He's a bit too hyper for my liking.

PeterParker957

branie2 wrote: »

Hector. He's a bit too hyper for my liking.

I met him at a Guide Dogs event with Roy Keane.

He said once "all these people here to see little old me".

I hope he was being sarcastic!!

RabbleRouser2k

PeterParker957 wrote: »

I know people who have not only had the word spat at them but were beaten up at the same time.

However, they know the difference between the use of a word in a bigoted context and a harmless song lyric.

Basically the gist is that once again those who think someone will be offended wants to change something when the actual group couldn't give two f***s.

CF this nonsense today:

http://metro.co.uk/2017/12/13/ucl-apologises-asking-students-dreaming-white-campus-7157665/

Oh boy...that last one, why change it to 'campus'? Seems ridiculous.
Seems like ucl didn't think that one through at all. There was only gonna be a foul up there.

The craziness surrounding 'you scumbag, you maggot, you cheap lousy ******' reminds me of the Speedy Gonzalez craziness. Politically correct people said he was an insulting stereotype to the Mexican people. Nobody asked the Mexicans what they thought of Speedy however.
Turns out the Mexicans love Speedy. But for a few years, he wasn't allowed in WB cartoons or movies. (It's even a joke in Looney Tunes: Back in Action. Pepe le Pew was another character who folks saw as 'problematic').

PeterParker957 wrote: »

Up there with the best that one I'll give you. Not a patch on "Happy Christmas your arse, I pray God it's our last". The Grinch in me loves that !!

Tbh I can see why some people might have license to say a word they're not usually allowed to say but again it's context. Like someone I saw once doing Gold Digger at karaoke - the words on screen we're the "broke, broke..." version.

He sang the original.

Before being asked to leave. He meant it as "I want to say this word and now I can", I'm not sure the vast, vast majority sing the original Fairytale lyric with malice.

I've noticed local stations play it more, with the included 'offending' word. Even youtube doesn't censor it. The national stations are more likely to censor it.

I think the Kanye one is a bit different-a 'broke N***er' is different to f****t, in that for the last hundreds of years, there's been only one usage for the n word, whereas 'f****t' had many uses, in my memory. Like, you'd call anyone that word as an insult, growing up, not just a gay person.
It wasn't even the worst word you could use-that would go to 'c**t'. Now, if you sing 'Broke n****r' in the shower, or your car while alone, that's one thing-you're the audience, you know what insults you. And if you're insulted by that, you're not gonna sing it.

RayM wrote: »

Maybe it wouldn't actually harm anyone if the word (a word which turns into asterisks when you type it here) was no longer included in that song.

Yes, it's censored, but if you're using the word 'b*tch' to describe a female dog (not an insult), that's also censored, even when it's not referring to a person. Even 'Jimmy crack corn' has a negative history too-it became popular due to minstrels or blackface, even with lyrics like 'my master's gone away'. But do we start banning songs that are politically incorrect after we ban songs that are insulting? Frankie Goes to Hollywood's 'Relax' was banned on radio in Britain due to its 'content', and don't forget the hullaballoo that surrounded 'Ding Dong the Witch is dead' being played on the radio, its resurgent popularity caused by Maggie Thatcher's death leading to the single almost being the number one single that month (it made it to number 2).

RayM

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Yes, it's censored, but if you're using the word 'b*tch' to describe a female dog (not an insult), that's also censored, even when it's not referring to a person.

I've got 99 problems, but 'bitch' being censored on Boards.ie ain't one.

RabbleRouser2k

RayM wrote: »

I've got 99 problems, but 'bitch' being censored on Boards.ie ain't one.

And yet its not censored in your post.

It's awkward when you're trying to ask a question about a female dog, and you use the word. Even if you were advertising selling a dog.

There are uses where something is offensive, and uses where it's not. Yankee or yank was an offensive word, now it's more of a running joke ie 'unhand me, yankee'. It's dutch etymology is mostly forgotten.


Anyways, as for people I find annoying-John Barrowman. He's probably a really nice guy, and from what I hear from people who meet him at comic cons and so on, he comes across as a really nice guy.
But he also does the 'smutty gay guy' act too often-to a creepy uncomfortable level. I hate when straight guys do it too. He even simulated a sex act with a banana on some tv show...I just wonder 'why sink to that level?'. It's not as if his career is in trouble.

maudgonner

Ruth Negga seems like a bit of a dose.

Maybe she's lovely and everything, but every time I see her interviewed I imagine myself stuck in a room with her and being bored to tears by her going on about 'her art' and her amazingly profound cultural experiences, and being bestest buddies with Meryl Streep and all that shíte.

(And that feckin' accent! She grew up in Limerick FFS!)

iamwhoiam

maudgonner wrote: »

Ruth Negga seems like a bit of a dose.

Maybe she's lovely and everything, but every time I see her interviewed I imagine myself stuck in a room with her and being bored to tears by her going on about 'her art' and her amazingly profound cultural experiences, and being bestest buddies with Meryl Streep and all that shíte.

(And that feckin' accent! She grew up in Limerick FFS!)

Thandie Newton does the same to me . That haughty arty look she wears

Eire Go Brach

Shane McGowan. Walking Advertisement for alcoholicism. Only this country do we put him on a pedestal. Why oh why does he get so much air time? “Sure he is a great song writer” bollox you feel sorry for him.
It’s not really his fault. It’s us Irish.

RabbleRouser2k

Eire Go Brach wrote: »

Shane McGowan. Walking Advertisement for alcoholicism. Only this country do we put him on a pedestal. Why oh why does he get so much air time? “Sure he is a great song writer” bollox you feel sorry for him.
It’s not really his fault. It’s us Irish.

He's a really nice guy, apparently. But very naiive, I feel. He gets exploited by quite a few, not just his new wife.
He was a great songwriter, for sure-but his addictions killed that. Took his voice and teeth too.

laotg

Conor Ward, Robert Cassidy. A few others.

Omackeral

maudgonner wrote: »

Ruth Negga seems like a bit of a dose.

Maybe she's lovely and everything, but every time I see her interviewed I imagine myself stuck in a room with her and being bored to tears by her going on about 'her art' and her amazingly profound cultural experiences, and being bestest buddies with Meryl Streep and all that sh.

(And that feckin' accent! She grew up in Limerick FFS!)

Her name nearly always pops up in hottest Irish women discussions and for the life of me I can't understand it.

Ash.J.Williams

PeterParker957 wrote: »

I met him at a Guide Dogs event with Roy Keane.

He said once "all these people here to see little old me".

I hope he was being sarcastic!!

I presume they were blind? And it was a joke?

Shemale

djemba djemba wrote: »

James Corden

It's says inexplicably

Cordon is a loudmouth who hoots laughing at his own "jokes", makes a joke about his weight and if someone chimes in with a weigh joke he throws a complete strop. The incident with Patrick Stewart and the Harvey Weinstein "jokes" lately show the level of prick he is, he was trying to laugh off the Weinstein joke while standing there dying on his arse.

Ralf and Florian

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

He's a really nice guy, apparently. But very naiive, I feel. He gets exploited by quite a few, not just his new wife.
He was a great songwriter, for sure-but his addictions killed that. Took his voice and teeth too.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that. Can't stand that woman, she's milked him to further her own profile at every turn.

RabbleRouser2k

Ralf and Florian wrote: »

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that. Can't stand that woman, she's milked him to further her own profile at every turn.

Yeah, I called her his 'wife', they've never married. My bad. It's a strange one, but the last person you'd expect to help him is Sinead O' Connor, and yet she did. Staged an intervention 16 years ago to get him to stop taking heroine. The guy must have more addictions than songs at this stage.

fryup

Shemale wrote: »

It's says inexplicably

Cordon is a loudmouth who hoots laughing at his own "jokes", makes a joke about his weight and if someone chimes in with a weight joke he throws a complete strop.

you can lump Peter Kay in with that as well, he's a northern version

Gerrup Outta Dat!

Gay Byrne

kerrylad1

+1

kerrylad1

kerrylad1 wrote: »

+1

Can't stand gaybo

RabbleRouser2k

fryup wrote: »

you can lump Peter Kay in with that as well, he's a northern version

Still a nicer guy than Cordon. When KAy did the lip-sync video to the track 'Way to Amarillo', Ronnie Corbett fell while filming it. Well, Kay immediately went to check on Corbett, stopped filming etc. Corbett was grand, they looked at the footage after, and Corbett found it funny. They would have reshot that scene if Ronnie wanted to, without the fall, obvs.
It's in the final video too.

Cordon, on the other hand...he 'rewrote' the song 'Shout', to make it the England world cup anthem one year. It was bloody awful.
Couldn't even get a single English player to appear in it, outside of using 'stock' footage.
That said a lot tbh, in that if Kay can get a ton of celebs to just turn up and have fun, Cordon must be known as a notorious pain.

And give Gaybo a break, he might not be around much long. (Cancer combined with his age).

kerrylad1

Gay byrne,and Leo vardickor

Shemale

Daithi whats his face, like a dose of salts

HonalD

Rolf Harris

scotchy

HonalD wrote: »

Rolf Harris

You can't explain why you don't like Rolf Harris?


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The Young Wan

Saoirse Ronan. She's an awful quarehawk.

Ash.J.Williams

Shemale wrote: »

Daithi whats his face, like a dose of salts

daithi o'shea? i think he looks like a character mike judge would draw.

Ralf and Florian

Quazzie wrote: »

Beyonce. Goes around as if she's a feckin God or something. Has the same fools that fawn over her religiously.

Louise O Neill thinks shes the greatest thing ever which says it all. Her second favourite singer appears to be Alanis Morrissette which says even more.

RabbleRouser2k

Ralf and Florian wrote: »

Louise O Neill thinks shes the greatest thing ever which says it all. Her second favourite singer appears to be Alanis Morrissette which says even more.

Oh God, Beyonce-the woman who went from 'independent women' to 'put a ring on it'... she's everything wrong with third/ fourth wave feminism.

Alanis Morrissette is the woman who is incredibly manufactured-was a Britney Spears from Canada, that didn't work out, so she became a manufactured 'emo' who doesn't understand 'Ironic'.

God, no wonder LON likes her.

Ash.J.Williams

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Oh God, Beyonce-the woman who went from 'independent women' to 'put a ring on it'... she's everything wrong with third/ fourth wave feminism.

Alanis Morrissette is the woman who is incredibly manufactured-was a Britney Spears from Canada, that didn't work out, so she became a manufactured 'emo' who doesn't understand 'Ironic'.

God, no wonder LON likes her.

You're going to have explain how singer/SONGWRITER /PRODUCER alanis morissette is manufactured?
In fact you're talking entirely through your hole, how the hell is morissette a Canadian Britney? And as for it not working out, a quick Google will tell you she has sold 60m albums of her own material.... And didn't she just sell out the marquee in Cork?

ohnonotgmail

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

You're going to have explain how singer/SONGWRITER /PRODUCER alanis morissette is manufactured?
In fact you're talking entirely through your hole, how the hell is morissette a Canadian Britney? And as for it not working out, a quick Google will tell you she has sold 60m albums of her own material.... And didn't she just sell out the marquee in Cork?

When they referred to "manufactured" and "didnt work out" they are referring to the 2 pop music albums she released in canada as a teenager. the first was reasonably successful, the second not so much. she doesnt mention them any more. She co-wrote all the tracks on the first (not sure about the second) so to call her the canadian britney is a little wide of the mark. Of course anybody who includes a reference to Ironic in a criticism clearly knows SFA about her.

Jordoo

Kevin Bacon

The_Kew_Tour

Phil Taylor the darts player.

an awful loser and even worse winner.

I admire people who hate to lose but going around being totalk ****, sticking up your finger at fans is just pathetic.

and his final game on Monday night after he was defeated he reacted like everyone knew he would, a dick.

ohnonotgmail

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Phil Taylor the darts player.

an awful loser and even worse winner.

I admire people who hate to lose but going around being totalk ****, sticking up your finger at fans is just pathetic.

and his final game on Monday night after he was defeated he reacted like everyone knew he would, a dick.

i thought he behaved really well after the game was over. he wasnt bitter at all.

Rumpy Pumpy

There’s absolute nothing inexplicable about hating Phil Taylor. He’s a dreadful human being in general.

RabbleRouser2k

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

When they referred to "manufactured" and "didnt work out" they are referring to the 2 pop music albums she released in canada as a teenager. the first was reasonably successful, the second not so much. she doesnt mention them any more. She co-wrote all the tracks on the first (not sure about the second) so to call her the canadian britney is a little wide of the mark. Of course anybody who includes a reference to Ironic in a criticism clearly knows SFA about her.

I seem to have travelled back to the 90s, when people gave a damn about Alanis Morrissette...:rolleyes: (And yeah, the song 'Ironic' is total cack-or 'gay' as one would say, in the 90s').

So just to let you all know, Blur is better than Oasis cos most of them actually did something good after the band was over (even the cheesemaker guy)...

And you should really warn the current US administration about Osama Bin Laden, cos he's gonna turn out to be a massive jerk...

(Now here's hoping I can leave this perilous decade-the fashion alone is lousy).

artvanderlay

I like Michael D. Higgins as a cute, cuddly president but I can't stand his voice or his way of expressing himself. Ask him a simple question and he goes off for 20 minutes in reply...the sound of his voice makes me want to strangle him. Does that count?

smilerf

Nevin Maguire.. He comes across very cocky and smug

artvanderlay

smilerf wrote: »

Nevin Maguire.. He comes across very cocky and smug

I always think he looks like his going to **** himself with nerves

iamwhoiam

artvanderlay wrote: »

I always think he looks like his going to **** himself with nerves

So he does

kg703

Ed Sheeran. I hate his face. I hate his music. I hate the fact that he turns up everywhere e.g. weddings, to delight someone with his guitar. He drives me cracked. Up until say the last 2 years, this was a very unpopular opinion but I think he is starting to get more and more on peoples nerves now.

When he turned up on game of thrones I nearly screamed.

Just go away

mistersifter

smilerf wrote: »

Nevin Maguire.. He comes across very cocky and smug

agreed! He comes across like a right boring oddball. How he gets his own shows is beyond me.

RabbleRouser2k

kg703 wrote: »

Ed Sheeran. I hate his face. I hate his music. I hate the fact that he turns up everywhere e.g. weddings, to delight someone with his guitar. He drives me cracked. Up until say the last 2 years, this was a very unpopular opinion but I think he is starting to get more and more on peoples nerves now.

When he turned up on game of thrones I nearly screamed.

Just go away

Think the Game of Thrones thing was a step too far-possibly even a jump the shark moment for the entire show?

Maybe.

I think his music in the last 2 years or so was pretty awful. Like, really bad. And is it me, or is he trying to market himself as a sex symbol? It's not gonna happen Ed, you can't be a ginger sex-symbol unless you're Michael Fassbender, or Sam Heughan. (And yes, I'm a straight guy-I just listen to the ladies).

razorblunt

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Phil Taylor the darts player.

an awful loser and even worse winner.

I admire people who hate to lose but going around being totalk ****, sticking up your finger at fans is just pathetic.

and his final game on Monday night after he was defeated he reacted like everyone knew he would, a dick.

There's nothing inexplicable about that, the guy is a sex offender, yet that never gets mentioned.
He's despicable, I think, if he stays retired (he won't his ego will want another crack) there'll be a few stories come out about him on the professional side of things.

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Think the Game of Thrones thing was a step too far-possibly even a jump the shark moment for the entire show?

Maybe.

I agree with that, thankfully it was short, but it was completely unnecessary and it really did take you out of the show. They've had musicians before in the background and they could have done similar in that scene just leave him out of focus in the background.

Hoboo

DAVID BOWIE

Another rapist/paedophile (whichever way you wish to paint it) that people continue to not just ignore, but to celebrate him.