Is this Racist?

PARlance

You obviously crossed the fraulein there.

Sleeper12

nhunter100 wrote: »

Most countries? Which ones?

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/law-and-courts/discrimination/hate-crime/racist-and-religious-hate-crime/

What does racial or religious group mean?

A racial group means a group of people who are defined by reference to their race, colour, nationality or ethnic or national origin. This includes:

• Gypsies and Travellers
• refugees and asylum seekers
• Jews and Sikhs.

A religious group means a group of people who share the same religious belief such as Muslims, Hindus and Christians. It also includes people with no religious belief at all.

As I said in most countries ethnic or national origin falls under racism. It simplifies things when making or enforcing laws. A white English person can be racist to a white Irish person even though we are the same race.

Anyway in ops case I can't see how his comments could be considered racist at all

Neon_Lights

Don't mention zee war

nhunter100

Sleeper12 wrote:

As I said in most countries ethnic or national origin falls under racism. It simplifies things when making or enforcing laws. A white English person can be racist to a white Irish person even though we are the same race.

So still no list of countries then? It's ok if you can't provide. Bye.

Sleeper12

nhunter100 wrote: »

Just thought I'd ask again, any chance of a list of countries you are referring to. I have some spare time and I enjoy searching Google.

I don't have all day to google so maybe you can look it up yourself.
I've linked the UK law & here is the Irish law http://mrci.ie/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Racism.pdf

Can you see a pattern here?

RACISM
Racism or racial discrimination can be any distinction, exclusion, restriction or
preference based on
race
, colour,
descent
, national or
ethnic
origin that has the
purpose or effect of preventing people from enjoying or ex
ercising their
human
rights
and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any
other field of public life.

nhunter100

Sleeper12 wrote:

I don't have all day to google so maybe you can look it up yourself. I've linked the UK law & here is the Irish law

So just one country, not most as you've claimed grand so.

Sleeper12

nhunter100 wrote: »

So still no list of countries then? It's ok if you can't provide. Bye.

I've provided Ireland & UK, the most important two for most Irish people. The rest of the EU cover ethnic & national under Racism laws. Perhaps you'd like to show links to all the countries that dont??

The Rape of Lucretia

storker wrote: »

It may be unfunny, it may be a bit insensitive, I would say it's definitely not racist. But then I think the definition of what is racism has bee widened so far as to render the term almost meaningless.

The suggestion that there are different races and everybody is not the same, is racist now. You cant even use the term 'race' without being accused of racism.

Sleeper12

nhunter100 wrote: »

So just one country, not most as you've claimed grand so.

Er 1 + 1=2 not 1:pac:

Bob24

Could have been stupid, not funny, or annoying depending on the exact context ... but finding it racist is way over the top IMO.

Pinch Flat

"Verkauft, verkauft, verkauft" doesn't quite roll off the tongue just as well

livedadream

nhunter100 wrote: »

Sleeper12 wrote:

As I said in most countries ethnic or national origin falls under racism. It simplifies things when making or enforcing laws. A white English person can be racist to a white Irish person even though we are the same race.

So still no list of countries then? It's ok if you can't provide. Bye.

here ya go: its called the EU.

Austria
Italy
Belgium Latvia
Bulgaria Lithuania
Croatia Luxembourg
Cyprus Malta
Czech Republic Netherlands
Denmark Poland
Estonia Portugal
Finland Romania
France Slovakia
Germany Slovenia
Greece Spain
Hungary Sweden
Ireland United Kingdom

nhunter100

Sleeper12 wrote:

Er 1 + 1=2 not 1

Er I live in Ireland so I am aware of our rascism laws. That's why I asked you for of list of what you claimed "most" countries. You obviously are unable to back up your claim so I'll leave it that.

nhunter100

livedadream wrote:

here ya go: its called the EU.

Thanks for the list but 196 recognised countries, so not an answer to my question of 'most countries'. Thanks for trying though.

Gravelly

Gravelly wrote: »

Weird but true - never realised that before now - wonder what the connection between Germans and pigs are?

Aren't Germans famous for loving pork?



[and away yis go :pac:]

Sleeper12

livedadream wrote: »

here ya go: its called the EU.

Austria
Italy
Belgium Latvia
Bulgaria Lithuania
Croatia Luxembourg
Cyprus Malta
Czech Republic Netherlands
Denmark Poland
Estonia Portugal
Finland Romania
France Slovakia
Germany Slovenia
Greece Spain
Hungary Sweden
Ireland United Kingdom

You are posting nonsense now. I've already posted Ireland & the UK so I'm not sure why you include them in your made up list. Look I'll put this to bed by posting the country everyone is talking about on this thread. Germany

http://www.globalworkplaceinsider.com/2016/02/what-protection-do-employees-have-against-race-discrimination-in-germany/

Under the German Anti-Discrimination-Act, which is derived from European directives, all employees in Germany, including apprentices and job applicants, are legally protected against discrimination on grounds of race or ethnic origin. In particular, it is unlawful to discriminate during the recruitment or promotion process. It is also unlawful to discriminate on grounds of race or ethnic origin in the giving of instructions during the daily working process or in the payment of remuneration.

Its a European Directive so you'll find most if not all the EU countries in your list actually have the same laws. again you can see in Germany race & ethnic origin come under the same laws.

Man enough to say you made a mistake?? :pac::pac::pac::pac:

The Backwards Man

You should have done Jimmy Cagney

livedadream

Sleeper12 wrote: »

livedadream wrote: »

here ya go: its called the EU.

Austria
   Italy
Belgium    Latvia
Bulgaria    Lithuania
Croatia    Luxembourg
Cyprus    Malta
Czech Republic    Netherlands
Denmark    Poland
Estonia    Portugal
Finland    Romania
France    Slovakia
Germany    Slovenia
Greece    Spain
Hungary    Sweden
Ireland    United Kingdom

You are posting nonsense now. I've already posted Ireland & the UK so I'm not sure why you include them in your made up list. Look I'll put this to bed by posting the country everyone is talking about on this thread. Germany

http://www.globalworkplaceinsider.com/2016/02/what-protection-do-employees-have-against-race-discrimination-in-germany/

Under the German Anti-Discrimination-Act, which is derived from European  directives, all employees in Germany, including apprentices and job  applicants, are legally protected against discrimination on grounds of  race or ethnic origin. In particular, it is unlawful to discriminate  during the recruitment or promotion process. It is also unlawful to  discriminate on grounds of race or ethnic origin in the giving of  instructions during the daily working process or in the payment of  remuneration.

Its a European Directive so you'll find most if not all the EU countries in your list actually have the same laws. again you can see in Germany race & ethnic origin come under the same laws.

Man enough to say you made a mistake?? :pac::pac::pac::pac:

wrong poster but okay....

Mr. CooL ICE

Mod:

nhunter100 and Sleeper12, just drop it

corner of hells

Nicolas Cage wrote: »

Mod:

nhunter100 and Sleeper12, just drop it

Now you're being racist.
Am I doing this right or do I need a poll and list ?

reason vs religion

What makes it funny? A complex mixture of stereotypes that surely includes some influenced by anti-German sentiment after WW2. The OP may not be aware of being racist, in the same way a child who says "don't be a gay" will completely reject that they are being homophobic, but it's only funny because of these underlying prejudicial stereotypes. Unless, of course, it's being said ironically. But an important question in determining if that would be legitimate: do most Germans find mockery of their accent offensive? Because, if yes, then it's disrespectful to continue to do that which they find offensive. Woe betide if someone mocks an Irish accent.

nhunter100

reason vs religion wrote:

What makes it funny? A complex mixture of stereotypes that surely includes some influenced by anti-German sentiment after WW2. The OP may not be aware of being racist, in the same way a child who says "don't be a gay" will completely reject that they are being homophobic, but it's only funny because of these underlying prejudicial stereotypes. Unless, of course, it's being said ironically. But an important question in determining if that would be legitimate: do most Germans find mockery of their accent offensive? Because, if yes, then it's disrespectful to continue to do that which they find offensive. Woe betide if someone mocks an Irish accent.

Good post but slagging an accent is not racist, piss take disrespectful yeah but not racist.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

reason vs religion wrote: »

What makes it funny? A complex mixture of stereotypes that surely includes some influenced by anti-German sentiment after WW2. The OP may not be aware of being racist, in the same way a child who says "don't be a gay" will completely reject that they are being homophobic, but it's only funny because of these underlying prejudicial stereotypes. Unless, of course, it's being said ironically. But an important question in determining if that would be legitimate: do most Germans find mockery of their accent offensive? Because, if yes, then it's disrespectful to continue to do that which they find offensive. Woe betide if someone mocks an Irish accent.

Oh, it wasn't funny (and by funny, I mean humorous rather than clever) but it wasn't racist eiher.

Cee-Jay-Cee

I worked in Germany for 6 months and can safely declare that they are the most unfunny dull people on the planet with zero sense of humour so to answer your question, no you were not being racist, your friend was being a typical German person.

topper75

Irish youngsters in 1847:

"Will the potato crop fail again thereby leaving me to face death by starvation?"

Irish youngsters in 2017:
"What is the validity of some overseas lad's claim that my thoughts are not in line with received liberal twatology?"





We've come a long way baby!! :-)

Widdershins

If that's racist then we might as well all stop speaking in case we put our foot in it and offend someone.

JamboMac

Might sound a stupid question, but she is white right?

reason vs religion

nhunter100 wrote: »

Good post but slagging an accent is not racist, piss take disrespectful yeah but not racist.

I understand the point you're making. But I think you miss mine. Why don't people take the piss out of someone with a particular shade of brown hair? Because it's not notably different from any other shade of hair so there's nothing to take the piss about, right? But there is something about red hair that allows it. Something that acts as a target. And that's what you've got to answer - what about a German accent provides a target for piss take? I contend that it's unconscious prejudicial stereotypes.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Oh, it wasn't funny (and by funny, I mean humorous rather than clever) but it wasn't racist eiher.

Well, I disagree. But I accept it's not racist in the explicitly biggoted sense of visible racism.

nhunter100

reason vs religion wrote:

I understand the point you're making. But I think you miss mine. Why don't people take the piss out of someone with a particular shade of brown hair? Because it's not notably different from any other shade of hair so there's nothing to take the piss about, right? But there is something about red hair that allows it. Something that acts as a target. And that's what you've got to answer - what about a German accent provides a target for piss take? I contend that it's unconscious prejudicial stereotypes.

I try to restrict my answers in general to the subject of the thread. Whataboutery I'll leave to others.

RonanP77

The way I usually deal with these situations is to side with whoever is hottest. If your friend is hot then you're a horrible racist and should be ashamed of yourself. If she's ugly or fat then she needs to lighten up and realise you were joking.

uch

Boom_Bap wrote: »

Pigs with German accents are hilarious

Cork Pigs are Better !

red ears

The Germans are a bit like the Swedes they have gone doolally over this political correctness.

reason vs religion

nhunter100 wrote: »

I try to restrict my answers in general to the subject of the thread. Whataboutery I'll leave to others.

It is entirely relevant to whether it is racist or mere slagging. But, as you wish..

nhunter100

reason vs religion wrote:

It is entirely relevant to whether it is racist or mere slagging. But, as you wish..

It's not it's just whataboutery...but thanks for the reply.

MonkieSocks

red ears wrote: »

The Germans are a bit like the Swedes they have gone doolally over this political correctness.

Don't the Swedes eat Potatoes and The Gyrmins eat Sour Kraut

reason vs religion

nhunter100 wrote: »

It's not it's just whataboutery...but thanks for the reply.

Lol. On you go.

ScumLord

Your Face wrote: »

Everything is racist.

I'm going to have that song stuck in my head all day, now what rhymes with white?

freshpopcorn

Your not racist OP. If your comment was racist OP almost every Irish person would be racist towards Cavan people!

Beyondgone

Not racist at all.
Next time, when with a Chinese friend, put on your best David Brent style Chireze accent and loudy read out amusing business names - they'll crack up. Honest. Do similar when with some Pakistani pals - they love people doing funny and witty impersonations of their accents - mention "poppadoms" and "Oh deary me" several times.

You'll be up there with David Brent in the "Funny and popular" stakes in no time. You could round off by doing your best Nigerian accent when dealing with African people - they love when people try to be witty like that.

Annasopra

jonnycivic wrote: »

Nein.......

You forgot the other 2

Mr. CooL ICE

Poll closed as OP is clearly a big racist

Mr_Roger_Bongos

Yay! Not a racist (as certified by boards.ie)

Thank god. Don't know how i'd break to my asian parents.

Boom_Bap