Garda recruitment 2017

D Trent

Oruam wrote: »

Just google it and you'll find to download from the Adobe website.

What exactly do you mean by this?

Google the Garda trainee '17 pdf application?

Or
Google Adobe reader?

Oruam

D Trent wrote: »

What exactly do you mean by this?

Google the Garda trainee '17 pdf application?

Or
Google Adobe reader?

Adobe

deiseman17

Hi guys, any idea when we will have to do the first aptitude test?

vardy98

deiseman17 wrote:

Hi guys, any idea when we will have to do the first aptitude test?

Stage one part A will start the 8th that's this Thursday and you will have till the 14th of June to complete this test which will comprise of an assessment questionnaire and a basic job simulation test, that's the easy part. Part B, the aptitude tests starts on the 21st of June and you will have till the 27th to complete them. I think there's two aptitude tests to complete but I'm up for correction, I personally am nervous about them all ready.

deiseman17

Okay thanks for that information Vardy98. what does part b of the test comprise of then? Yes i am getting kind of nervous for it also but i think if we practice a few of them we should be fine. Stage 1 is usually easy touch wood!

vardy98

deiseman17 wrote:

Okay thanks for that information Vardy98. what does part b of the test comprise of then? Yes i am getting kind of nervous for it also but i think if we practice a few of them we should be fine. Stage 1 is usually easy touch wood!

No problem at all, As far as I am aware part B comprises of two aptitude tests, abstract reasoning which is shapes and sequences (discovering rules) and the other test is a verbal reasoning test which is paragraphs which have questions to answer on them, sounds easy but I'd say under a time limit it will be tricky enough.

Craicbud

Trust me stage 1 isn't that bad, don't worry if you don't get all the questions answered in the time given as some of the excercises are designed for that!

Oruam

Craicbud wrote: »

Trust me stage 1 isn't that bad, don't worry if you don't get all the questions answered in the time given as some of the excercises are designed for that!

Have you already tried the competition before, Craicbud?
Do you know how long does it take us to be notified that we've either passed or failed stage 1?

Craicbud

Oruam wrote: »

Have you already tried the competition before, Craicbud?
Do you know how long does it take us to be notified that we've either passed or failed stage 1?

Yes I applied last year and got to stage 2 but unfortunately didn't make it any further. The assessment centre this year starts late July early August so you should be notified in mid July if you passed or failed.

deiseman17

i think there is 42 questions in the verbal and have 12 minutes to complete them. That equates to 3.5 a minute which is tricky when looking through for the answers that may or not be there under pressure as well. I think that the accuracy of what you get correct is more important than guessing most of them to complete them all.

Oruam

Craicbud wrote: »

Yes I applied last year and got to stage 2 but unfortunately didn't make it any further. The assessment centre this year starts late July early August so you should be notified in mid July if you passed or failed.

Thanks. Just to ask, have you found perhaps some good free abstract reasoning tests online to practise a little? I've done some, but they're not many and I think that they were deliberately made to make people think that they need a preparation course.

Craicbud

Oruam wrote: »

Thanks. Just to ask, have you found perhaps some good free abstract reasoning tests online to practise a little? I've done some, but they're not many and I think that they were deliberately made to make people think that they need a preparation course.

Unfortunately there are no good tests online that you can practice that I know of but the Career Services course I did last year was brilliant, got plenty of notes and was talked through it very well, I cannot speak highly enough of them

Oruam

Craicbud wrote: »

Unfortunately there are no good tests online that you can practice that I know of but the Career Services course I did last year was brilliant, got plenty of notes and was talked through it very well, I cannot speak highly enough of them

I imagine. I'd attend it, if only I lived in Ireland.
Anyway, in case I don't make it through stage 1, I hope there will be another recruitment campaign the next year and that I have the time to do the career services course. But first, let's hope to pass this one

MrBlack93

Oruam wrote:

I imagine. I'd attend it, if only I lived in Ireland. Anyway, in case I don't make it through stage 1, I hope there will be another recruitment campaign the next year and that I have the time to do the career services course. But first, let's hope to pass this one

Career services offer an online course which has all the important material you need

breakfasttime

Hi just looking for clarification. Is part a (8-14 june) the assessment questionnaire and part b (21-27 june) the verbal and numerical aptitude tests?

vardy98

breakfasttime wrote:

Hi just looking for clarification. Is part a (8-14 june) the assessment questionnaire and part b (21-27 june) the verbal and numerical aptitude tests?

Yes that's 100% correct.

deiseman17

anyone do the practice material and what did ye make of it?

Oruam

deiseman17 wrote: »

anyone do the practice material and what did ye make of it?

I've just done the verbal reasoning practice, but I don't know whether to click review all or continue session

deiseman17

go to continue session and you can review the answers on what you got correct and incorrect then

Oruam

deiseman17 wrote: »

go to continue session and you can review the answers on what you got correct and incorrect then

then what is the difference?

deiseman17

it will just come up that you got whatever out of 30 correct

Oruam

deiseman17 wrote: »

it will just come up that you got whatever out of 30 correct

Ok, thanks. Anyway, I got 18 out of 30 correct, 10 incorrect, 2 left blank. Score Summary: 60.0 -- Percentile: 69

Cannot tell if it's good

deiseman17

I got 16 out of 30 correct so i need to practice a good bit more. 18 out of 30 is solid enough and would definitely be a pass mark in the real thing.

Oruam

deiseman17 wrote: »

I got 16 out of 30 correct so i need to practice a good bit more. 18 out of 30 is solid enough and would definitely be a pass mark in the real thing.

That would be great, but in the real test we'll have 2 minutes less. Gotta practise more too.

deiseman17

I completed it with like 6 minutes remaining, that would be 4 remaining in the real thing so just have to relax a bit. I don't think time will be a factor. have to tried the inductive reasoning?

Oruam

deiseman17 wrote: »

I completed it with like 6 minutes remaining, that would be 4 remaining in the real thing so just have to relax a bit. I don't think time will be a factor. have to tried the inductive reasoning?

yeah, but English is not my native language, so it takes me a bit longer to read well the texts

I'll try it this afternoon

deiseman17

Best of luck they are tricky enough

Oruam

deiseman17 wrote: »

Best of luck they are tricky enough

Thanks!
Do you think that completing the test with some time left gives a higher score?

MrBlack93

Oruam wrote: »

Thanks!
Do you think that completing the test with some time left gives a higher score?

no

deiseman17

No time isn't a factor its more the accuracy of your answers give you the higher score. obviously its great to get them all done but, no point rushing and getting lots wrong.

vardy98

How many questions are on each of the aptitude tests in the real thing, is it the same as the practice ones?

Ammx

Where are the practice ones? probably a silly question just can't seem to find them.

Oruam

Guys, read the pre-test booklet carefully. It's all in there.

There's also the link to the practice tests

Oruam

deiseman17 wrote: »

have to tried the inductive reasoning?

Just done it. Score Summary: 61.1 -- Percentile: 71.
But again I used the whole time, while the real test will be shorter, in comparison.

vardy98

Does any one have any idea what exactly would a pass grade be on the aptitude tests I've been practicing the verbal reasoning and the logical reasoning aptitude tests but I would like to no what exactly would a pass mark/ grade be. If anyone has any idea I would really appreciate it.

deiseman17

Hey Guys are any of you after completing stage 1(A) and how did ye get on?

MrBlack93

vardy98 wrote:

Does any one have any idea what exactly would a pass grade be on the aptitude tests I've been practicing the verbal reasoning and the logical reasoning aptitude tests but I would like to no what exactly would a pass mark/ grade be. If anyone has any idea I would really appreciate it.

I could be wrong but I believe for our campaign the tests were scored out of 800 points with 400 being a passing score, so 50%

vardy98

MrBlack93 wrote:

I could be wrong but I believe for our campaign the tests were scored out of 800 points with 400 being a passing score, so 50%

OK thanks Mr black so is that 800 points for the verbal reasoning and you have to get 400 or over to pass, and the same for the discovering logical rules test or is it the two tests added together.

MrBlack93

vardy98 wrote: »

OK thanks Mr black so is that 800 points for the verbal reasoning and you have to get 400 or over to pass, and the same for the discovering logical rules test or is it the two tests added together.

800 each individually, you have to pass both tests.

vardy98

Does anyone have any idea which aptitude test sort were getting,I no we will have the verbal reasoning with the paragraphs and questions and then the second one which is the shapes and you have to pick the next in the sequence, but in the family ration material it says that you have to pick the odd one out, is this a mistake or what I don't have any issue with this really I just want this clarified for my practice purposes thanks in advance.

ALTHEPAL

vardy98 wrote: »

Does anyone have any idea which aptitude test sort were getting,I no we will have the verbal reasoning with the paragraphs and questions and then the second one which is the shapes and you have to pick the next in the sequence, but in the family ration material it says that you have to pick the odd one out, is this a mistake or what I don't have any issue with this really I just want this clarified for my practice purposes thanks in advance.

In the last couple of campaigns they have used what is called Discovering rules, it is basically looking for the odd one out ! In other words not the same as the others ! All boxes might have solid lines and the odd one out could have broken lines etc !

vardy98

Thank you that's what I was thinking, I couldn't remember the name.

ALTHEPAL

vardy98 wrote: »

Thank you that's what I was thinking, I couldn't remember the name.

No worries good luck

Oruam

Then why doesn't the practice material work like this? In the practice test you have to pick the one which completes the sequence, not the odd one

ALTHEPAL

Oruam wrote: »

Then why doesn't the practice material work like this? In the practice test you have to pick the one which completes the sequence, not the odd one

Does anyone have any idea which aptitude test sort were getting,I no we will have the verbal reasoning with the paragraphs and questions and then the second one which is the shapes and you have to pick the next in the sequence, but in the family ration material it says that you have to pick the odd one out, is this a mistake or what I don't have any issue with this really I just want this clarified for my practice purposes thanks in advance.

I was going off this post lads and the previous campaigns ! So it's a matter of reading the information booklet, that will tell you everything you need to know

Oruam

ALTHEPAL wrote: »

Does anyone have any idea which aptitude test sort were getting,I no we will have the verbal reasoning with the paragraphs and questions and then the second one which is the shapes and you have to pick the next in the sequence, but in the family ration material it says that you have to pick the odd one out, is this a mistake or what I don't have any issue with this really I just want this clarified for my practice purposes thanks in advance.

I was going off this post lads and the previous campaigns ! So it's a matter of reading the information booklet, that will tell you everything you need to know

I've read the booklet carefully, and that's the reason why I ask this. There, it's written that we have to click on the object, out of a row of objects, that doesn’t fit the rule of the other objects. One of the given objects is wrong and we must identify it.

Yet, although they say that the practice tests are similar in structure and format to the real tests and differ only for the number of the questions, the practice test, actually, is about discovering the only figure that fits the rule(s)!

That's the contradiction I don't understand.

vardy98

Anyone any advice or tips for the aptitude test verbal reasoning I'm struggling with that. Thanks.

ALTHEPAL

Oruam wrote: »

I've read the booklet carefully, and that's the reason why I ask this. There, it's written that we have to click on the object, out of a row of objects, that doesn’t fit the rule of the other objects. One of the given objects is wrong and we must identify it.

Yet, although they say that the practice tests are similar in structure and format to the real tests and differ only for the number of the questions, the practice test, actually, is about discovering the only figure that fits the rule(s)!

That's the contradiction I don't understand.

It's all about the image or box that doesn't fit the pattern or sequence, so that is discovering rules.

Marksy8429

vardy98 wrote: »

Anyone any advice or tips for the aptitude test verbal reasoning I'm struggling with that. Thanks.

Verbal reasoning measures your ability to understand written passages and the logical evaluation of arguments, it measures the verbal aspect of analytical ability. So basically you need to read the passage and only answer on information from the passage not on what you "think" may or may be the answer. Scanning the passage and looking for key words is the easiest way. Its a hard one to explain.

Oruam

ALTHEPAL wrote: »

It's all about the image or box that doesn't fit the pattern or sequence, so that is discovering rules.

Ok, but what I'm saying is that in this campaign practice test we don't have Discovering rules questions, there are only Inductive logical reasoning questions instead.

I wouldn't find it strange at all - I guess tests might have been changed this year - but since the test is described in the booklet as a Discovering rules one while it isn't, I think that there's an inconsistency, don't you?

So I don't know what is wrong, the description in the booklet or the practice test.
It would be nice to know before the real thing