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Kill your babies - 90's edition

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  • 12-05-2017 7:02am
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭


    Hello boardsies, this game is stolen from other internet forums/videos etc.
    Below are the rules.
    I thought it'd be fun to have a go and see how we get on.
    If it goes well, then no doubt we can have future iterations for
    -SNES, 2000's, PS1, Megadrive, etc etc

    I picked the list of games, mostly from what I know to be some of the best games of the 90s. I know YOUR favourite game may not be there, but I tried to cater for most tastes and give a 'general' list.
    Obviously you can make you own list next time if you'd like :P

    This doesn't constitute the "BEST GAME OF THE 90's" , but just a general boards.ie favourite baby maybe :P...or one of. At the end of the day it's just a fun game and will be interesting to see why people save or kill off certain ones. (There is often a 'save' rule whereby only once, and once per game, that game can be saved....but for the sake of learning and trying out the game I'll leave it out, maybe future versions can use it)
    Rule #1: When you make a kill, give your reason why you are killing. Just taking it out isn't all that inspiring. Whether you truly dislike it, you strike out of revenge, you feel that there are other important titles that should have made it, or you have legitimate critiques, explaining your kill is necessary to validate its death. Yes, even to those of you who kill because they're good (Because that makes sense =-D)

    Rule #2: Please keep the updated list for the benefit of other players. Cross through your kill to identify what's been chosen.

    Rule #3: You may kill another game after only four other people have made a kill OR if 12 hours have passed from the last overall kill (not necessarily your own). This should be plenty of time for others to get involved.

    Rule #4: If you fail to give a reason, make a 2nd kill without allowing the time to pass/proper amount of players a turn, or if there is an unforeseen issue up for potential review, your kill may not be recognized. This rule is subjective to the situation and hopefully will not be implemented.

    Rule #5: We will have a straw poll for the final two. Please vote for the one you want to win, not lose.

    Let me know if you have any questions. Your kills are your own, so be ruthless, uncompromising, and most importantly:

    HAVE FUN!!!

    Gran Turismo 2
    Metal Gear Solid
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Super Mario 64
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time

    Which baby do we save ! 20 votes

    Castlevania
    0%
    Command and Conquer
    35%
    super_furryRetr0gamerShaneUPotential-MonkeRelikkYouSavedMyLifePaul196 7 votes
    Chrono Trigger
    65%
    Canis LupusNailzSeantheManSolvableKnaveyermanoffthetvbrianregan09Maximus AlexanderahnowbrowncowLittle CuChulainneeguy[Deleted User]D0NNELLYMr Crispy 13 votes


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭SeantheMan


    Chrono Trigger
    SeantheMan wrote: »

    Gran Turismo 2
    Metal Gear Solid
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Super Mario 64
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time

    I'm killing Spyro. I didn't like him and could never get into it. I understood Playstation was trying to make a 'mascot', but he didn't do it for me...it felt too 'kiddy' at a time when Playstation was kind of pushing things with games like Silent Hill, Resident Evil and Metal Gear. Also I thought crash was a better mascot.
    Anyways, I'm killing Spyro. Get rekt dragon !


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,410 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Command and Conquer
    Spyros is grand but it's mario 64 for babies. Nuke it.
    SeantheMan wrote: »
    Gran Turismo 2
    Metal Gear Solid
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Super Mario 64
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time

    Taking out Jet Moto because, really? What the hell is this doing on a list of best anything. In a decade that gave us some of the best racers ever like Sega rally, f-zero X, Colin McRae, mario kart etc this was the best you could do? Crash team racing is the same but only stays on for being only slightly more meh than jet moto. CTR and jet moto are two average games that make me wonder when everyone started fooling themselves that they were some sorts of classics.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Skerries


    SeantheMan wrote: »


    Gran Turismo 2
    Metal Gear Solid
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Super Mario 64
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time

    I presume that is supposed to be Final Fantasy VII
    I know how much loved this and it may be just my predjudice against JRPGs but I bought this at the time after all the rave reviews and then I played it.
    Cue starting animation, ok now onto the actual game
    walk a few steps, Fight! that was interesting. walk a few more steps, Fight! OK fine
    walk a few more steps, Fight! ah here!


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭SeantheMan


    Chrono Trigger
    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    Spyros is grand but it's mario 64 for babies. Nuke it.



    Taking out Jet Moto because, really? What the hell is this doing on a list of best anything.

    Honestly it was oversight on my part, I cut the original list from another thread and quickly modded most of it...must have slipped through...apologies. I'd have nuked it too.
    There should be other games on there obviously...but being it's a trial run I didn't wanna make the list too big etc. Sorry.
    Skerries wrote: »
    I presume that is supposed to be Final Fantasy VII
    I know how much loved this and it may be just my predjudice against JRPGs but I bought this at the time after all the rave reviews and then I played it.
    Cue starting animation, ok now onto the actual game
    walk a few steps, Fight! that was interesting. walk a few more steps, Fight! OK fine
    walk a few more steps, Fight! ah here!

    Nope. FF7 is also on the list.
    Guilty pleasure fact....FF8 is my favourite Final Fantasy :p
    I know people hate the abuse you can do with thr Junction system..but it was fun. It also had a no encounter Junction...which would fix your problem. Also..Triple Triad :)....thanks for killing one of my babies...heathen !!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,470 ✭✭✭SolvableKnave


    Chrono Trigger
    Gran Turismo 2
    Metal Gear Solid
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Super Mario 64
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time

    Going with Half Life. :eek:
    I know everyone loves it and HL2, but I never fell in love with it. Don't get me wrong, it's a fine game, but it has led to one of the biggest mass disappointments / crusades in relation to HL3, and I think everyone should just accept it and move on.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    No Planescape Torment or Baldurs Gate? Damn right I'll be vindictive...
    SeantheMan wrote: »
    Gran Turismo 2
    Metal Gear Solid
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Super Mario 64
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time

    Just be glad it wasn't Chrono Trigger...


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,410 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Command and Conquer
    Abusing the junction system was the best part of ff8. It was everything else that was a chore. Still that system was so brilliantly broken that it is still heaps of fun.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,707 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    SeanTheMan wrote:
    Gran Turismo 2
    Metal Gear Solid
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Super Mario 64
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time
    Super Mario World.

    It's worse than SMB3, and not as fast/fun/inventive as Yoshi's Island, Donkey Kong Country 2 or Sonic & Knuckles.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,695 ✭✭✭Corvo


    This is actually really tough!


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,470 ✭✭✭SolvableKnave


    Chrono Trigger
    Corvo wrote: »
    This is actually really tough!

    There are 3 I'd love to Save, but alas, that feature hasn't been installed yet.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    Chrono Trigger
    Gran Turismo 2
    Metal Gear Solid
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    [S]Final Fantasy VII[/S]
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    [S]Jet Moto[/S]
    [S]Super Mario World[/S]
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    [S][B]Starcraft[/B][/S]
    [S]Final Fantasy VIII[/S]
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    [S]Half Life[/S]
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Super Mario 64
    [S]Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer[/S]
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time
    

    Spammy spammy click click. Muddy, soulless graphics. Something about additional pylons. I never understood the attraction to this and it is with great mirth in my heart that I plunge a dagger into Starcraft. Give me a bit of C&C any day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    Chrono Trigger
    Gran Turismo 2
    Metal Gear Solid
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Super Mario 64
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time

    Tomb Raider gave me too many unrealistic expectations as a teenager.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,383 ✭✭✭Dave_The_Sheep


    Gran Turismo 2
    Metal Gear Solid
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Super Mario 64
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time

    Tekken 3.

    Just because of Eddy. **** Eddy and my housemate who played him all the time. Bastards.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,932 ✭✭✭YouSavedMyLife


    Command and Conquer
    Metal Gear Solid
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Super Mario 64
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time


    Kill Shenmue. I played it shortly after it first released for about 2-3 hours. It was filled with real life kind of minigames like getting a job at the docks and training to fight, but as cool and "groundbreaking" as all this was it just wasn't very fun from a gameplay perspective. Because these are games after all, to be played....


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,410 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Command and Conquer
    Such savagery....


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭ERG89


    Super Mario 64 has to go!!!!
    Because it is down on that list twice ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭SeantheMan


    Chrono Trigger
    Metal Gear Solid
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time

    Removed duplicate Mario64, thanks.

    Also was wondering what happened to FF7, then seen Gizmo's vindictive post :confused::confused::(:p

    Anyways, I'm gonna kill Roller Coaster Tycoon. Feel like the easiest kill among what's left for me personally as I didn't really play or get into it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,046 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Command and Conquer
    Maybe if people could leave out the quotes so that the next person can "quote" and have the list, as the list in a quote won't show when "quoting" your reply... That's slight confusing... Just take out all quotation marks.

    Metal Gear Solid
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time

    I'm killing Pokemon Red/Blue, because i just could never get into it. Don't like the FF style fighting system, and people have already removed 2 of my favourite games, so up yours Pokemon fans!


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭SeantheMan


    Chrono Trigger
    How can you be so cruel !!!
    Monster !!!

    pikachu-crying.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    Chrono Trigger
    Metal Gear Solid
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time

    Sonic, was something the poor saps with Megadrives pretended was good because they couldn't have Mario ;)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,046 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Command and Conquer
    Sonic, was something the poor saps with Megadrives pretended was good because they couldn't have Mario ;)

    Oh this brought such a massive smile to my face!!! :D:D:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    Chrono Trigger
    Oh this brought such a massive smile to my face!!! :D:D:D

    Yeah, I like a good joke too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,046 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Command and Conquer
    Yeah, I like a good joke too.

    Oh doesn't the truth just hurt... /MarioSonicFanWar


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,932 ✭✭✭YouSavedMyLife


    Command and Conquer
    I played Sonic after Mario and never looked at another Mario game after that bar one of the DS Mario games. The speed at which the game played at just brought the platform genre to the next level. Shame the series became garbage after the first 3 games whereas Mario has been considered consistently good.

    We just want 2D sonic games Sega, please. Good back to your roots and just add some new mechanics and prettier graphics! Thats all you need to do, its pretty much free money


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭SeantheMan


    Chrono Trigger

    We just want 2D sonic games Sega, please. Good back to your roots and just add some new mechanics and prettier graphics! Thats all you need to do, its pretty much free money

    Funny you should ask.....as it's already in production. Enjoy :P



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,932 ✭✭✭YouSavedMyLife


    Command and Conquer
    Sonic on Nintendo Switch, the gods have forsaken us


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭SeantheMan


    Chrono Trigger
    Sonic on Nintendo Switch, the gods have forsaken us

    Sonic has been appearing on Nintendo systems and alongside Nintendo characters for the last 15 years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭Moist Bread


    I played Sonic after Mario and never looked at another Mario game after that bar one of the DS Mario games. The speed at which the game played at just brought the platform genre to the next level. Shame the series became garbage after the first 3 games whereas Mario has been considered consistently good.

    We just want 2D sonic games Sega, please. Good back to your roots and just add some new mechanics and prettier graphics! Thats all you need to do, its pretty much free money


    Well they tried a few years back with Sonic 4 which wasn't that well recieved. I also completely disagree with the idea of the Sonic franchise taking platforming to a new level. When the game tried actual platforming, ie: jumping puzzles, it was a horrible mess. When you compare the tightness of Mario's controls to Sonic there was only one winner. All it had going for it was the speed gimmick, which was often just a glorified railroad where you had little to no control over Sonic. I'd much rather see something like Ori and the Blind Forest 2 than another 2d Sonic game.

    Speaking of bad controls I'll kill Resident Evil 2 cause **** those awful controls (Still enjoyed the game back in the day mind).


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭pumpkin4life


    Metal Gear Solid
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time

    Sonic, was something the poor saps with Megadrives pretended was good because they couldn't have Mario ;)

    Ocarina of Time.

    Because like a lot of early 3d games, it has aged like crap with some awful moments in it.

    Good video on why its kind of a crap game and its flaws.



    Also because I'm an asshole. :D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    Chrono Trigger
    I think saying a game has aged badly isn't the greatest reason to take a game out. Arguably most on that list have aged badly.

    Zelda was, at the time, an absolute wonder. Apart from that stinking freaking water temple the game was brilliant.

    I agree with your last sentence :P


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