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Kill your babies - 90's edition

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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭SeantheMan


    Chrono Trigger
    Metal Gear Solid
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time


    Updated list to include Moist Bread's killing of Resi 2.

    I'm gonna kill Diablo, those Dungeon Crawlers weren't my thing back in the day, though I've since played a few and only yesterday was playing Diablo 3.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,605 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Crash Team Racing should go because it isn't as good as Speed Freaks, a game Sony buried under a lack of support.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,410 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Command and Conquer
    I think saying a game has aged badly isn't the greatest reason to take a game out. Arguably most on that list have aged badly.

    Zelda was, at the time, an absolute wonder. Apart from that stinking freaking water temple the game was brilliant.

    I agree with your last sentence :P

    A good game will be good forever. When something has aged then all it means is that the flaws it has become more apparent and less forgivable for instance technical issues at the time if it was pushing technical boundaries. Ocarina is an amazing game but it's built on an engine that is ready to collapse on itself with the slightest breeze.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    Chrono Trigger
    Metal Gear Solid
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time

    Took out Silent Hill because it shouldn't be in the running if Resident Evil 2 isn't.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭SeantheMan


    Chrono Trigger
    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    Crash Team Racing should go because it isn't as good as Speed Freaks, a game Sony buried under a lack of support.

    In FUTURE If you want it gone then just repost the last list posted with the addition of CTR killed and your reason.
    I can't accept people just saying ABC should be killed but not posting actual lists (just for clarity's sake and the hassle it saves others going through previous killers)
    The above should go for everyone.

    Looks like CuChulainn added it anyways.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,478 ✭✭✭brianregan09


    Chrono Trigger
    Metal Gear Solid
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time
    .

    I'm killing Mario 64 because as good as it was I was a massive fan of the original Mario Brothers games on the SNES and NES the side scrolling platforms were just so good for me as much as I played it the 3D just never did it for me it , It's the same reason I'd have buried Spyro if someone else didn't' get there before me


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,590 ✭✭✭Mal-Adjusted


    Metal Gear Solid
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time

    I'm killing Street fighter 2 because while every other fighter evolved and improved, they just sat on their arses and thought up ways to re-release this one again...also, it's crap.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭SeantheMan


    Chrono Trigger
    I'm killing Street fighter 2 because while every other fighter evolved and improved, they just sat on their arses and thought u ways to re-release this one again...also, it's crap.

    You're a bad man....but not much left to choose from now

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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,847 ✭✭✭✭ShaneU


    Command and Conquer
    Metal Gear Solid
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time

    Secret of Monkey Island is DEAD! Played the remake a few years back and it was a pain in the arse. Use chicken on cable?! Wow how didn't I think of that, I must be thick!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    Chrono Trigger
    ShaneU wrote: »
    Metal Gear Solid
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time

    Secret of Monkey Island is DEAD! Played the remake a few years back and it was a pain in the arse. Use chicken on cable?! Wow how didn't I think of that, I must be thick!

    You monster


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,605 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    I'm killing Mario 64 because as good as it was I was a massive fan of the original Mario Brothers games on the SNES and NES the side scrolling platforms were just so good for me as much as I played it the 3D just never did it for me it , It's the same reason I'd have buried Spyro if someone else didn't' get there before me

    You're equating Spyro with Mario 64?
    You've stopped taking the lithium, haven't you?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,410 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Command and Conquer
    ShaneU wrote: »
    Gran Turismo 2
    Metal Gear Solid
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time

    Somewhere along the lines Gran Turismo 2 got left out so I put it back in.

    And then promptly crossed it off.

    Gran Turismo 2 = Pok?mon + Cars - fun

    Can't think of a more boring racer to play, I'd much rather something more arcade like.

    Also I have a grudge as it was the only game my brother would play so when he played it I couldn't play the playstation. Also he broke my controller firing it off the ground after messing up one of the trials where you had to take a ridiculous American muscle car around a bend in Laguna Seca. After 2 weeks trying it he made the corner and passed the line, 0.12 seconds over the time limit.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,932 ✭✭✭YouSavedMyLife


    Command and Conquer
    Metal Gear Solid
    Gran Turismo 2
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time


    I was going to kill Doom because its not actually as good as everyone made out back in the day. Its just an upgraded Castle Wolfenstein, sure the new Doom is 100 times better than it. Can't even look up or down ffs

    BUT

    But...Look at Goldeneye hidden way there in the middle of a bunch of dead bodies playing dead so nobody will kill it. But its gotta die. The console community creamed their pants when this was released, considered it to be one of the best FPS games ever made. Gimmie a break. Like Halo its just too little to late. While Goldeneye was being heralded by the console angels the rest of us where playing real first class shooters on PC like Quake, Quake 2 and Doom. Yeah even Doom...


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    Chrono Trigger
    Metal Gear Solid
    Gran Turismo 2
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time


    Jesus how did I miss Metal Gear Solid. A game that relied on irritating camera angles and that stupid cardboard box.

    EDIT by the way, looking at what is left the clear winner now is Sys Shock 2. If it doesn't win I've lost all faith in this forum.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,768 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    This thread is a lot less fun than I thought it would be when I read the OP, so much grudge-settling and vindictiveness in here :P:P


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭SeantheMan


    Chrono Trigger
    Jesus how did I miss Metal Gear Solid. A game that relied on irritating camera angles and that stupid cardboard box.

    EDIT by the way, looking at what is left the clear winner now is Sys Shock 2. If it doesn't win I've lost all faith in this forum.



    Says the man who killed MGS!!!
    WTF !!! Shocking. I didn't 'rely' on either. Completely horrible execution of a great game ......shocking.

    If I had implemented the "1 save" rule, I'd have used my SAVE just now to save MGS.

    Instead, I'm gonna kill.....SYSTEM SHOCK 2. Because I didn't have a PC capable of running such games at that time which annoyed me :( , and I have never gotten into it since (waiting for the remaster or whatever it is of SS1 to finish).:)
    Also, the revenge kill kind of pushed me in that direction :P

    Metal Gear Solid
    Gran Turismo 2
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,478 ✭✭✭eeguy


    Chrono Trigger
    Metal Gear Solid
    Gran Turismo 2
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time

    I'm going for Age of Empires 2. I played it a few years after it came out, loved it for a week, then played Shogun Total War, which crapped all over it.

    Going back to population caps after having large scale battles just felt like a huge step backwards.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭D0NNELLY


    Chrono Trigger
    Metal Gear Solid
    Gran Turismo 2
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Roller Coaster Tycoon
    Street Fighter 2
    Crash Team Racing
    Goldeneye
    Super Mario 64
    Final Fantasy VII
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    System Shock 2
    Tekken 3
    Diablo
    Shenmue
    Jet Moto
    Super Mario World
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Starcraft
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Tomb Raider II
    Doom
    Half Life
    Secret of Monkey Island
    Age of Empires II
    Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer
    Chrono Trigger
    Resident Evil 2
    Silent Hill
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time[/quote]

    I feel that it had to be an outsider who comes in and does what the rest of ye can't.

    Doom. Dead.

    The most repet​itive game ever released. No story so at least it couldn't not make sense.

    Hat tip to Club Doom though.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    Chrono Trigger
    Ok then C&C wins.... someone has to kill Castlevania.

    By the by killing Sys Shock 2 out of spite was poor form. You may not be forgiven.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭SeantheMan


    Chrono Trigger
    And we are left with

    1. Castlevania
    and
    2. Command and Conquer.

    I'm not sure anyone could have predicted these results.

    Honestly with 3 games left I was sure DOOM would be in the Top 2.
    Damn you DONNELLY for leaving us with this choice :P

    I have added the final 2 to the poll as per original post.
    Please vote for the one you want to SAVE.

    The poll is open for 2 days and then it will be closed. Results are final I guess.


    **Sidenote**
    The game itself seems to have worked well and had many different participants. I guess we all have a general idea of how it works. There is the possible 'SAVE' rule for next time which can be used ONCE only by each participant (to save you must have already have voted on something) .
    I guess we'll see if it's implemented in the next game or not.

    There are plenty of options for the next game, for whoever wants to compile a list or genre or start a new thread .
    Games of 00's, Nintendo games, Megadrive Games, 2d games, FPS etc etc


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭D0NNELLY


    Chrono Trigger
    bit of a love hate relationship with C&C.
    played it to death with my mate at lunch break, resulting in us being constantly late back and getting detention :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭D0NNELLY


    Chrono Trigger
    SeantheMan wrote: »
    And we are left with

    1. Castlevania
    and
    2. Command and Conquer.

    I'm not sure anyone could have predicted these results.

    ChronoTrigger comes from nowhere!!!!

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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,847 ✭✭✭✭ShaneU


    Command and Conquer
    Umm nobody killed Chrono Trigger?

    I'm gonna go back in time, shake hands with Hitler and prevent C&C Red Alert from getting in that poll. IT'S DEAD.

    Really like the game just not as much as the other two left.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    Chrono Trigger
    I declare a mistrial.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,590 ✭✭✭Mal-Adjusted


    EDIT by the way, looking at what is left the clear winner now is Sys Shock 2. If it doesn't win I've lost all faith in this forum.

    Um...you do realize that by saying this, you guaranteed that SS2 would get killed next, don't you?


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    Chrono Trigger
    Um...you do realize that by saying this, you guaranteed that SS2 would get killed next, don't you?

    I assumed common sense would have prevailed over base emotion. I was wrong.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭SeantheMan


    Chrono Trigger
    Ok.
    As shocking as a WWE turn we now have

    Chrono Trigger vs Castlevania.

    Can one of the Admins reset/edit the poll to reflect the new final entrants ? Retro


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    Chrono Trigger
    SeantheMan wrote: »
    Ok.
    As shocking as a WWE turn we now have

    Chrono Trigger vs Castlevania.

    Can one of the Admins reset/edit the poll to reflect the new final entrants ? Retro

    You can't except a kill shot after voting has started. Make it a three way poll


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭SeantheMan


    Chrono Trigger
    You can't except a kill shot after voting has started. Make it a three way poll

    I can't edit the poll buddy. That's the point.
    I'm fine with Chrono being added and it being a 3-way poll.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,932 ✭✭✭YouSavedMyLife


    Command and Conquer
    Nevermind i read the poll title

    So its ment to be
    Castlevania
    vs
    Chrono Trigger

    Two games i played very little of, so im going to go with Castlevania because i really like Aria of Sorrow on the Nintendo DS :D:D:D


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