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When is a garage, not a garage?

  • 12-05-2017 3:20pm
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 36


    Looking at buying a house in Co. Galway. The garage has been converted to residential use, bathroom and kitchen. But there is no planning for residential, it should only be a garage.
    So the question; when is a garage, not a garage. We could remove the kitchen, would that then abide by the planning rules and not be residential?
    I am sure this happens all the time.
    Thanks for any replies


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  • Subscribers Posts: 41,942 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    maybe the conversion was exempt from planning?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 692 ✭✭✭jmBuildExt


    as far as i know an existing garage can be converted to living space without planning permission.
    http://www.dublincity.ie/main-menu-services-planning/frequently-asked-questions-planning#Can I convert my garage to living accommodation without permission?


  • Registered Users Posts: 36 SuperMacs


    Hi. The conversion is not allowed by planning. That is understood.
    Banks will not allow a mortgage on any building that does not have correct planning. Therefore to comply with the original planning, the garage/apartment needs to be just a garage again.
    So the query is; when is a garage, not a garage?
    What modifications to the apartment will make it a garage in the eyes of the planning people?
    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,352 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    SuperMacs wrote:
    Hi. The conversion is not allowed by planning. That is understood. Banks will not allow a mortgage on any building that does not have correct planning. Therefore to comply with the original planning, the garage/apartment needs to be just a garage again. So the query is; when is a garage, not a garage? What modifications to the apartment will make it a garage in the eyes of the planning people? Thanks


    Do you mean it's a standalone garage, I.e. not attached to the house?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,977 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Sounds like the garage is out in its own. The exemptions don't cover the conversion of this.

    My own opinion would be that the bathroom and any fixtures and fittings would need to be removed.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 36 SuperMacs


    Yes. Correct. It is a stand alone garage which the owner converted into an apartment without planning.
    For a bank to allow a mortgage all planning has to be correct to the letter. And this apartment/garage will get them upset.
    They comply with the original planning this apartment has to be a garage again.
    But from a legal/planning viewpoint, what is the difference between a garage and an apartment? 
    No kitchen. No toilet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,249 ✭✭✭Cordell


    You can ask them planning people, but if I would have to guess then it is the ability to stick a car in it and out of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 808 ✭✭✭Angry bird


    Not for living in, or for the housing of animals, and ancillary use to the dwelling, is basically the planning definition of a garage.


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