Ulster Bank League 2017-2018 Talk/Gossip/Rumours

Tarf1234

Was at our game last night. Really good game for the first hit out. Our scrum (which was very dominate) and pace/tempo gave us the upper hand. Couple of new faces played - Dylan Donnellan, James McKeown, John Smith and Joe Roe. Rob McGrath also played so obviously is not transferring to Barnhall. V. impressed with John Smith and Dylan Donnellan but excellent debuts. James McKeown was given some awful ball and did well but didn't get enough to really impress. Joe Roe looked good but scrum wasn't as effective with him in it. Played some really nice rugby at times. Naas were good in patches but missed a few  opportunities.

Stainalert

Sounds like some decent signings for Clontarf.
Lansdowne host Old Belvedere tomorrow and Marys have UCD

The Lost Sheep

Bective beat Blackrock 27-23 in Leinster Shield.
Nenagh beat Shannon 14-7, UL Bohs beat Thomond 19-15, Old Crescent beat Bruff 55-7 and Garryowen beat Young Munster 45-10 in Limerick Charity Cup. Semis are Nenagh v Bohs and Crescent Garryowen

ArmchairQB

Lansdowne 50 Belvo 0
St. Mary's 25 UCD 23
Leinster Senior League Div 1a

Stainalert

Tullamore 29 Malahide 31
Greystones 43 Skerries 7
Navan 0 Wanderers 35

Stainalert

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Bective beat Blackrock 27-23 in Leinster Shield.
Nenagh beat Shannon 14-7, UL Bohs beat Thomond 19-15, Old Crescent beat Bruff 55-7 and Garryowen beat Young Munster 45-10 in Limerick Charity Cup. Semis are Nenagh v Bohs and Crescent Garryowen

Big win for Garryowen over Munsters - Had heard they have been heavily recruiting

FellasFellas

Heard that Garryowen managed to shift a lot of their debt or offset it in some way which has freed up a lot of money for recruitment purposes.

irishfan9

Munster have recruited a lot too

Cookie_fan

Stainalert wrote: »

Big win for Garryowen over Munsters - Had heard they have been heavily recruiting

They have, wouldn't read too much into the scoreline, YM had a largely 2nd string front five, and only 2 of the back line will start. Garryowen not at full strength either but have a large squad assembled and it told.

Anyway hope we can get some good games behind us in the next two weeks, roll on the start of the league hoping to see if we can hit the ground running.

ym

Garryowen way better – had new players panda (prop from trinity) darren ryan (munsters) aaron mccloskey and diarmuid mccarthy (also ex munsters) who all played well . Their scrum was excellent and much improved from last season,

Both sides understrength us more so than them – still thoughh tis depressing to our old rivals in el clasico 1.

Only thing now cookie fan the only game we have between now and sep 16 is munster senior cup, maybe a good thing in that charity cup final is in november and i think that would mean having to play 7 weeks on the bounce. Going to be a very difficult game first up v UCD

bazzmch

I herd Malahide signed Mike Ross.
Money still being spent there soooo

Tarf1234

bazzmch wrote: »

I herd Malahide signed Mike Ross.
Money still being spent there soooo

Wow, that'd be ridiculous.

ArmchairQB

bazzmch wrote: »

I herd Malahide signed Mike Ross.
Money still being spent there soooo

Think Mal O'Kelly was there last year plus a few ringers signed for this season as well

blackdog1

bazzmch wrote:

I herd Malahide signed Mike Ross. Money still being spent there soooo

Heard he was scrum coaching them last year supposedly turned their scrum from a disgrace to a dominant one. Doubt he's playing he murder boys at that level.

bazzmch

blackdog1 wrote: »

Heard he was scrum coaching them last year supposedly turned their scrum from a disgrace to a dominant one. Doubt he's playing he murder boys at that level.

Mal okelly was there for a good few years. Played up to 3 years ago with them. They have been very strong the last two years and now they are senior for the first time.
Mal is in St Mary's now I think as forwards coach.

The Lost Sheep

Munster Senior Cup was drawn then redrawn due to an admin error (Thomond didn't want to compete in the cup)
Original draw
Midleton v Garryowen, Cashel v Nenagh, Young Munster v Thomond, Highfield v Bruff, Sundays well v Dolphin, UCC v Old Crescent, Cork Con v UL Bohs.
Shannon bye in first round
New draw
First Round Saturday 9th September:
Cashel v UCC, Nenagh v UL Bohs, Shannon v Cork Con, Bruff v Sundays Well, Young Munster v Highfield, Garryowen v Dolphin, Midleton v Old Crescent

gaius c

blackdog1 wrote: »

Heard he was scrum coaching them last year supposedly turned their scrum from a disgrace to a dominant one. Doubt he's playing he murder boys at that level.

He's playing.

Stainalert

Leinster League Cup 

Terenure 8 Clontarf 16
2B
Bective 8 Seapoint 35
2C
Greystones 64 Malahide 14

blackdog1

gaius c wrote:

He's playing.

We'll all have to get season tickets so. .

The Lost Sheep

Garryowen into final of Limerick Charity Cup and will play Nenagh or Shannon after beating Crescent 33-19

Lansdowne beat UCD 19-13 in Leinster League Cup

GavMan

Leinster Senior League - Division 2B
Barnhall 24 - Blackrock 56

Stainalert

That's a pretty decent away win by Rock. Anyone know how they are shaping up this season?

GavMan

Mick Carroll back involved coaching the first XV after a stint in Monkstown I believe. Not sure about the rest of the coaching ticket. Think Steve Lamb maybe involved.

I think the age profile of the senior squad will be pretty young this year from what I've heard

Stainalert

Marys beat Old Belvedere 16 - 7 last night in Anglesea Rd

LFCTID

Adam Griggs (scrumhalf) is back in Lansdowne this after a short stint with old Wesley! Sean coughlan (wing/centre) also with Lansdowne this year after a year in old belvedere last season. Adam leavy Connacht academy centre also moving to Lansdowne from galwegians

typhoony

Buccs NZ monster video....

https://www.facebook.com/canterbury/videos/10155663765309476/?hc_ref=ARQ4iGAr2dKySccx5cr1zrjw4vGHwNDfhFWwz9C9sj6cy_aBvKSa1rYqgqGAkRgudg0&pnref=story

Stainalert

IRFU introducing try of the month competition for UBL. Great idea
http://www.irishrugby.ie/club/ulsterbankleagueandcup/40474.php#.WbJMcbKGPGg

Tarf1234

Stainalert wrote: »

IRFU introducing try of the month competition for UBL. Great idea
http://www.irishrugby.ie/club/ulsterbankleagueandcup/40474.php#.WbJMcbKGPGg

Great idea, hopefully the quality of video will be good.
Conor O'Brien played for Tarf last night. 45 - 7 win. Men against boys stuff in the second half but first half was pretty competitive. I'd imagine there will be a lot more change to the trinity team for AIL then the Tarf team.
Max Kearney apparently going to Trinity now.

ym

Stainalert wrote: »

IRFU introducing try of the month competition for UBL. Great idea
http://www.irishrugby.ie/club/ulsterbankleagueandcup/40474.php#.WbJMcbKGPGg

a fantastic idea - id go a little further and get clubs to show all tries scored oneither twitter/social media

D14Rugby

Tarf1234 wrote: »

Great idea, hopefully the quality of video will be good.
Conor O'Brien played for Tarf last night. 45 - 7 win. Men against boys stuff in the second half but first half was pretty competitive. I'd imagine there will be a lot more change to the trinity team for AIL then the Tarf team.
Max Kearney apparently going to Trinity now.

Trinity only just started training a few weeks ago i think and would have only found out what new players theyll get 2/3 weeks ago so a few hidings was probably to be expected at this point. Theyve got a few quality 20s players in by the looks of it so maybe next year theyll really push on and this year will just be consolidate their position.

Tarf1234

D14Rugby wrote: »

Trinity only just started training a few weeks ago i think and would have only found out what new players theyll get 2/3 weeks ago so a few hidings was probably to be expected at this point. Theyve got a few quality 20s players in by the looks of it so maybe next year theyll really push on and this year will just be consolidate their position.

Agreed not a good time of year for them. They've lost most of their better tight forwards which would be a worry for them as they didn't exactly dominate up front last year.

stellenbosch

Tarf1234 wrote: »

Great idea, hopefully the quality of video will be good.
Conor O'Brien played for Tarf last night. 45 - 7 win. Men against boys stuff in the second half but first half was pretty competitive. I'd imagine there will be a lot more change to the trinity team for AIL then the Tarf team.
Max Kearney apparently going to Trinity now.

MK to Trinity correct

Unfortunately Jack kelly out for 6 more weeks with ankle injury he picked up in the JWC in Georgia - yes there will be many changes to that Trinity side over next few weeks as Courtney/Mollen/Finlay/O'Dwyer/Dunne/Kelly/McDermott/Sylvester did not play last night- Also Jack Dunne will push for a place as well in the 2nd row

letf

stellenbosch wrote: »

MK to Trinity correct

Unfortunately Jack kelly out for 6 more weeks with ankle injury he picked up in the JWC in Georgia - yes there will be many changes to that Trinity side over next few weeks as Courtney/Mollen/Finlay/O'Dwyer/Dunne/Kelly/McDermott/Sylvester did not play last night- Also Jack Dunne will push for a place as well in the 2nd row

Colm Hogan gone too?

Tarf1234

stellenbosch wrote: »

MK to Trinity correct

Unfortunately Jack kelly out for 6 more weeks with ankle injury he picked up in the JWC in Georgia - yes there will be many changes to that Trinity side over next few weeks as Courtney/Mollen/Finlay/O'Dwyer/Dunne/Kelly/McDermott/Sylvester did not play last night- Also Jack Dunne will push for a place as well in the 2nd row

Backline was really disappointing but as above clearly shows it won't be the AIL backline. I would presume Jack Dunne will start.

stellenbosch

letf wrote: »

Colm Hogan gone too?

Colm on an Erasmus year in Toulouse playing with Colomiers-may play the odd game if home but practically gone for this season

Braken

Is it 1st of sept or 1st oct for Ail club transfers?

Tarf1234

stellenbosch wrote: »

letf wrote: »

Colm Hogan gone too?

Colm on an Erasmus year in Toulouse playing with Colomiers-may play the odd game if home but practically gone for this season

Surely he can't play if he is registered with Colomiers

D14Rugby

Tarf1234 wrote: »

Surely he can't play if he is registered with Colomiers

May be different rules for him because its erasmus since hes technically still a trinity student?

The Lost Sheep

D14Rugby wrote:

May be different rules for him because its erasmus since hes technically still a trinity student?

Would be irrelevant that he's a trinity student. To play over there he will have needed a transfer so would be ineligible to play here

D14Rugby

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Would be irrelevant that he's a trinity student. To play over there he will have needed a transfer so would be ineligible to play here

Could this part of the irfu regulations make him eligible
6.4.3.2 Players registered with one Club and playing for another club in an Under 20
competition or for a third level College or University as a student where prior written
approval to play for such other Club has been obtained from the relevant Branch or
the Union.
So trinity would just have to ask permission from the IRFU, the French club and maybe the FFR

The Lost Sheep

D14Rugby wrote:

Could this part of the irfu regulations make him eligible 6.4.3.2 Players registered with one Club and playing for another club in an Under 20 competition or for a third level College or University as a student where prior written approval to play for such other Club has been obtained from the relevant Branch or the Union. So trinity would just have to ask permission from the IRFU, the French club and maybe the FFR

to play abroad you need transfer. Isn't so simple to come back and play. Possibly could come back play odd game or two as a 'guest' player
That ruling is Ireland only and international transfers would be different

Stainalert

Braken wrote: »

Is it 1st of sept or 1st oct for Ail club transfers?

June 1st (unless moving city for job or student graduating from college)

Stainalert

St Marys 20 Lansdowne 31

Very entertaining game - both teams moved the ball well

Marys look like they have really upped their game

D14Rugby

Stainalert wrote: »

St Marys 20 Lansdowne 31

Very entertaining game - both teams moved the ball well

Marys look like they have really upped their game

Many new players for either side?

LFCTID

Stainalert wrote: »

St Marys 20 Lansdowne 31

Very entertaining game - both teams moved the ball well

Marys look like they have really upped their game

Yeah was a good entertaining game alright we (Lansdowne) were piss poor for the majority of the opening half tho letting in 20 points having saying that our 15 scored a cracker try in the second half. New players that were out Sean coughlan in centre and that's about it really.. dunno about the Mary's side tho as to who they had out really bar the regulars that I know Ciaran ruddock etc.. they played a decent brand of rugby too.

Stainalert

D14Rugby wrote: »

Many new players for either side?

Matt Oppermann and Tim Maupin for Marys

Jack Dwan & Charlie Rock for Lansdowne

GavMan

Seapoint beat Rock 22-20. Pretty poor game. Low on quality and high on errors

The Lost Sheep

AIL starting this weekend.
Munster Senior Cup started last weekend.

Bank of Ireland Munster Senior Cup:
Bruff 24 Sunday’s Well 0
Cashel 12 UCC 25
Midleton 25 Old Crescent 45
Nenagh 13 UL Bohs 18
Shannon 12 Cork Con 20
Young Munster 20 Highfield 7

Quarter-Finals
Old Crescent v UL Bohs
Garryowen v Young Munster
UCC v Cork Con
Bruff advance to the semi-finals where they will face either Old Crescent or U.L. Bohs.

letf

UCD side from last weekend that defeated OB

15 Billy Dardis
14 Hugo Keenen
13 Jamie Glynn (Capt)
12 Jimmy O’Brien
11 Harry McNulty
10 Matt Gilsenan
9 Nick Peters
1 Rory Mulvihill
2 Sean McNulty
3 Stephen McGivern
4 Conor O’Flynn
5 Brian Cawley
6 Jonny Guy
7 Alex Penny
8 Peadar Timmins
16 Gordon Frayne
17 Ben Griffin
18 Keelan McKenna
19 Will Connors
20 Jonny Glynn
21 Stephen Kilgallen
22 Tom Fletcher

Tarf1234

letf wrote: »

UCD side from last weekend that defeated OB

15 Billy Dardis
14 Hugo Keenen
13 Jamie Glynn (Capt)
12 Jimmy O’Brien
11 Harry McNulty
10 Matt Gilsenan
9 Nick Peters
1 Rory Mulvihill
2 Sean McNulty
3 Stephen McGivern
4 Conor O’Flynn
5 Brian Cawley
6 Jonny Guy
7 Alex Penny
8 Peadar Timmins
16 Gordon Frayne
17 Ben Griffin
18 Keelan McKenna
19 Will Connors
20 Jonny Glynn
21 Stephen Kilgallen
22 Tom Fletcher

That's a very strong side. Good to see such strong sides being put out this early in the season. I wonder will they keep releasing players in line with this.