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  • 15-05-2017 10:54am
    #1
    new splinter group
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 42 ✭


    How do websites know you have previously availed of a free trial?


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    #2
    me_irl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭me_irl


    If you sign up with the same email address / credit card / address.

    Even if you sign in from the same device or location.


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    #3
    davyboy1975
    Registered Users Posts: 781 ✭✭✭davyboy1975


    new splinter group wrote: »
    How do websites know you have previously availed of a free trial?

    IP addresses. Mac address, email address lots of different ways. Same way if you access a website you will start seeing lots of ads relating to it on facebook and the likes


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    #4
    new splinter group
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 42 ✭new splinter group


    ok. so say if i downloaded a free trial, it expires, i change my mac and ip i should be able to download the free trial again?


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    #5
    davyboy1975
    Registered Users Posts: 781 ✭✭✭davyboy1975


    new splinter group wrote: »
    ok. so say if i downloaded a free trial, it expires, i change my mac and ip i should be able to download the free trial again?

    You can't change mac addresses they are built into hardware


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    new splinter group
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 42 ✭new splinter group


    davyboy1975 wrote: »
    new splinter group wrote: »
    ok. so say if i downloaded a free trial, it expires, i change my mac and ip i should be able to download the free trial again?

    You can't change mac addresses they are built into hardware
    I don't understand. I change it regularly.


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    me_irl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭me_irl


    davyboy1975 wrote: »
    You can't change mac addresses they are built into hardware

    Well, you (sort of) can by spoofing.

    Although, I wouldn't risk it if you didn't know what you were doing.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAC_spoofing
    new splinter group wrote: »
    I don't understand. I change it regularly.

    I'm assuming you're talking about the IP address (192.168.x.x).


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    #8
    new splinter group
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 42 ✭new splinter group


    i mean the mac address with the following tecnigue:
    1. Regedit
    2. HKEY Local Machine
    3. System
    4. Controlset001
    5. Control
    6. Class
    7. 4d36e972
    8. 0004
    9. Right click
    10. New
    11. String value


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    #9
    me_irl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭me_irl


    new splinter group wrote: »
    i mean the mac address with the following tecnigue:
    1. Regedit
    2. HKEY Local Machine
    3. System
    4. Controlset001
    5. Control
    6. Class
    7. 4d36e972
    8. 0004
    9. Right click
    10. New
    11. String value

    Ah... but all your doing is changing the Device ID on your own wifi. You're still going to get an Irish external IP (unless there's a high chance I'm completely wrong due to lack of caffeine in my system round about now).

    For example if you go to https://whatismyipaddress.com/ I'm sure it's going to give your location.

    So, if the free trial of a site is location based they still have determining factors that you've already signed up.

    I noticed that you're downloading the file to install. Some will also create and write to a file that will store the license information of the program / site.


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    #10
    28064212
    Registered Users Posts: 10,634 ✭✭✭✭28064212


    new splinter group wrote: »
    ok. so say if i downloaded a free trial, it expires, i change my mac and ip i should be able to download the free trial again?
    MAC information isn't available to the website*

    Are you changing your external IP or internal IP? If you visit http://www.whatsmyip.org/, either side of the change, is it changing there?

    There are plenty of other methods available to them to uniquely identify a user, and you have no way of knowing which one's they're using

    *in the vast majority of cases

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    #11
    new splinter group
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 42 ✭new splinter group


    Im testing proxies (socks5) and a vpn. Whats the difference between internal and external ip? I have used both sites to test my location while using the vpn and it gives it as the vpn location. I havent tested the proxy yet.


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    28064212
    Registered Users Posts: 10,634 ✭✭✭✭28064212


    new splinter group wrote: »
    Im testing proxies (socks5) and a vpn. Whats the difference between internal and external ip? I have used both sites to test my location while using the vpn and it gives it as the vpn location. I havent tested the proxy yet.
    Internal IP is what's assigned by your router to devices on your network, typically starting with 192.168. Your external IP is the IP that web servers see you as having.

    A VPN or proxy is unlikely to be much use for a free trial if the site is in any way popular.

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    #13
    new splinter group
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 42 ✭new splinter group


    28064212 wrote: »
    new splinter group wrote: »
    Im testing proxies (socks5) and a vpn. Whats the difference between internal and external ip? I have used both sites to test my location while using the vpn and it gives it as the vpn location. I havent tested the proxy yet.
    Internal IP is what's assigned by your router to devices on your network, typically starting with 192.168. Your external IP is the IP that web servers see you as having.

    A VPN or proxy is unlikely to be much use for a free trial if the site is in any way popular.

    When I use a vpn will it change both my internal and external ip?


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    #14
    28064212
    Registered Users Posts: 10,634 ✭✭✭✭28064212


    new splinter group wrote: »
    When I use a vpn will it change both my internal and external ip?
    Your internal IP does not matter, the website cannot see it. When you use a VPN, the website will see your IP as coming from the VPN.

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