Summer transfer thread 17/18 season (NEYMAR TALK IN OTHER THREAD)

TitianGerm

M!Ck^ wrote: »

At least you can admit that it's not exactly the area of focus for any more transfers. Defense should be priority for Klopp.

We need a CB no doubt. Even if we do get one though we will still ship a good few goals though.

Mitch Connor

Mitch Connor wrote: »

If Lemar is leaving Monaco this week - Man United should be matching any bid that is made for him.
Same with Sanchez.

It doesn't look like United will make any further moves, but I feel there will be a few players sold this week that United should be in for.

Who would Sanchez replace though? Mata??
How would he be used?
Sanchez preferably for me behind Lukaku, can't see what he would provide on the right.

TitianGerm

astradave wrote: »

Just touching on this, I'm not sure at all, so just asking, who are the back ups at the moment?

For Mane and Salah?

No one really. Formation needs to change and move Firmino to either side and bring in Origi/Solanke/Sturidge.

Couthino played left side last year but by all accounts he was meant to be moved deeper this year. Lalana played there as well the year before last but was excellent in CM last year and slows play down to much out wide.

Other than that your looking at two young guys in Kent and Woodburn (who should be out on loan)

Edit: Forgot about Ojo but he's gone on loan to Fulham.

rob316

From what I have seen of Lemar, he can play Coutinho's role also, whether that is as competition or replacement remains to be seen.

Mitch Connor

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Who would Sanchez replace though? Mata??
How would he be used?
Sanchez preferably for me behind Lukaku, can't see what he would provide on the right.

right side, in place of Mata. Give him basically a free role, just playing from the right like Mata does. Not like he hugs the touchline! Same role I reckon Greizman would get if we were to sign him next summer. Rashford/Martial, Mkhitaryan and Sanchez/Greiman off Lukaku, with all three rotating.

He'd provide pace, dribbling and finishing from the right - same as Martial/Rashford do on the left.

Would be the type of signings to turn us into legit title contenders and make us a lot more of a prospect to make some sort of impact on the CL.

TitianGerm

Mitch Connor wrote: »

right side, in place of Mata. Give him basically a free role, just playing from the right like Mata does. Not like he hugs the touchline! Same role I reckon Greizman would get if we were to sign him next summer. Rashford/Martial, Mkhitaryan and Sanchez/Greiman off Lukaku, with all three rotating.

He'd provide pace, dribbling and finishing from the right - same as Martial/Rashford do on the left.

Would be the type of signings to turn us into legit title contenders and make us a lot more of a prospect to make some sort of impact on the CL.

I would have thought Sanchez prefers to move to City?

It'd be best for Arsenal if they sold him outside the PL if they do sell though.

irishman86

M!Ck^ wrote: »

In a way they can asses if he's a one season wonder.
It's actually a smart move all the same.

Its a smart move for ffp, but the transfer is not a optional one at the end of the loan

LuckyLloyd

I'd like to see Liverpool buy Howedes, a tough tackling midfielder, etc. That said, there is definitely an argument for embracing an identity as a team. The plan for Liverpool this year is clearly to press hard and high, and get it forward quickly when in possession to a pacey and varied front three. Adding another exciting attacker allows us better to deal with suspensions / injuries / variability in form and be who we are planned to be. As yesterday showed, if you keep your boot firmly pressed on the throat of your opponent your weakness in defense is less relevant.

Additionally, there's clearly money there to make multiple moves. It's not a case of either / or.

Mitch Connor

emmetkenny wrote: »

I would have thought Sanchez prefers to move to City?

It'd be best for Arsenal if they sold him outside the PL if they do sell though.

seems to the case alright - but I don't buy into the idea that United should just not bother making a proper move for him.

Everyone thought Lukaku was Chelsea bound and that was where he wanted to be - now he is a United player.

pjohnson

Meh this isnt FM or Fifa dont see why United need to sign anyone else other than maybe an LB. West Brom appear to have moved onto chasing Sakho so Smalling will likely stay aswell. Highly doubt United do anymore business unless its loans for McTominay/Tuanzebe.


Anywho have to wonder what Kevin Wimmers agent is telling him. Hes leaving Spurs for "more first team football". So he joins Stoke where the trio ahead of him is Shawcross, Zouma, Martins Indi. He'll get a new bench to sit on but very little increase in game time. Can't imagine hes doubling his wages either. Odd move.

eagle eye

emmetkenny wrote: »

So it's ok to have two wingers to play two positions which we rely heavily on for a whole season without having another option to bring in to freshen things up?

That's madness. Why would United bother bringing Zlatan back when they have Lukaku then? Or why would City sign Danillo when they bought Walker?

Well for a start you already have Lallana, Solanke and Origi. You also have the outcast who has never really been giving a proper chance in Lazar Markovic and James Milner is well capable of player in the wide attacking positions too. It's not like you are short of attacking players. Hell Danny Ings has never gotten a shot when he was fit either.

As for United, they don't have a real backup to Lukaku. Zlatan wants to come back obviously and he will be 36 years old in October, he is a nice backup option to have.

Buford T. Justice XIX

eagle eye wrote: »

Yeah and that is why they bought Salah.

It's insane to be even considering spending this money on an attacking player when it's quite clear that a goalkeeper, centre half and DM are the positions that require attention.

Klopp doesn't believe in playing a dedicated DM. He hasn't played one up to now and I doubt he will in the future. He is more likely to play a withdrawn CM to provide defensive cover and have the ability to provide some attacking input when required.

A CB is being looked for but this year is going to be a humdinger of shootouts. Liverpool more likely to win 5-4 than 1 nil.

eagle eye

pjohnson wrote: »

Meh this isnt FM or Fifa dont see why United need to sign anyone else other than maybe an LB. West Brom appear to have moved onto chasing Sakho so Smalling will likely stay aswell. Highly doubt United do anymore business unless its loans for McTominay/Tuanzebe.


Anywho have to wonder what Kevin Wimmers agent is telling him. Hes leaving Spurs for "more first team football". So he joins Stoke where the trio ahead of him is Shawcross, Zouma, Martins Indi. He'll get a new bench to sit on but very little increase in game time. Can't imagine hes doubling his wages either. Odd move.

Latest on Smalling is that Leicester are in for him.

KERSPLAT!

Salah looked lightening quick yesterday. Liverpool look great going forward on the counter but every man and his dog knows their defence is where the money needs to be spent. Even one top, experienced CB would go a long way IMO.

TitianGerm

eagle eye wrote: »

Well for a start you already have Lallana, Solanke and Origi. You also have the outcast who has never really been giving a proper chance in Lazar Markovic and James Milner is well capable of player in the wide attacking positions too. It's not like you are short of attacking players. Hell Danny Ings has never gotten a shot when he was fit either.

As for United, they don't have a real backup to Lukaku. Zlatan wants to come back obviously and he will be 36 years old in October, he is a nice backup option to have.

Solanke is a young guy who won't play much this season bar a few minutes here and there. Lalana is out until November and is much better in CM than a winger, Origi is not a winger. Markovic proved he's not up to the PL with Hull last year (unfortunately). Milner can play on the wing and is an option but he won't be played there this season (Klopp has said he'll be a backup CM). Danny Inga has had two serious knee injuries so he hasn't been fit yet.

Also Lemar is better than all those players.

If Lemar is available and Liverpool are willing to match his fee and he wants to sign there is absolutely no reason not to buy him.

Rashford and Martial are very solid back ups to Lukaku.

dr.kenneth noisewater

WBA reject 23 million bid from Leicester for Jonny Evans

pjohnson

If Klopp has 55m and he spends it on a winger hes mad. Jonny Evans for half that would be far more important to the side. Or give that 55m to Southampton for VVD and throw in Origi to try and sweeten the deal.

TitianGerm

pjohnson wrote: »

If Klopp has 55m and he spends it on a winger hes mad. Jonny Evans for half that would be far more important to the side. Or give that 55m to Southampton for VVD and throw in Origi to try and sweeten the deal.

Apparently there is £150m to spend. Linked with VVD all summer but I don't think Southampton will sell to us. Howedes was also linked late last week with Shalke turning down a loan to buy offer from Juve (I think).

Gbear

pjohnson wrote: »

If Klopp has 55m and he spends it on a winger hes mad. Jonny Evans for half that would be far more important to the side. Or give that 55m to Southampton for VVD and throw in Origi to try and sweeten the deal.

The Van Dijk deal hasn't stalled for the want of trying.

Not signing anyone else because we can't sign a CB when we have enough money for multiple signings is just some variation on cutting your nose off to spite your face.

pjohnson

emmetkenny wrote: »

Apparently there is £150m to spend. Linked with VVD all summer but I don't think Southampton will sell to us. Howedes was also linked late last week with Shalke turning down a loan to buy offer from Juve (I think).

Howedes would be good for ye and cheaper than VVD.

TitianGerm

pjohnson wrote: »

Howedes would be good for ye and cheaper than VVD.

He partnered Matip for a few years so they would probably fit back together well.

It's hard to know how VVD will do coming back from his injury as well. I think he's a bit of a risky signing for whoever does get him.

Lucas Hood

Jovetic given Mbappes number 10 jersey which he was only given a few weeks ago.

Mr.H

eagle eye wrote:

Yeah and that is why they bought Salah.

It's insane to be even considering spending this money on an attacking player when it's quite clear that a goalkeeper, centre half and DM are the positions that require attention.

Well actually your wrong.

Last season we played coutinho up front on the left of a front three. This season we have (at least intended) to move coutinho deeper into a midfield role. This meant we needed a winger. Salah was bought for this reason. Not to provide cover.

Meaning Liverpool still need cover up front.

Of course opposing fans will label it as ridiculous much the same way people slag man city signing 100 full backs. It's jealousy. Fans always want their team to sign players and anyone who goes elsewhere is just another pogba (unfairly criticised)

Iused2likebusts

The best thing Liverpool could do is sign a world class goalkeeper. The defence gets exposed due to style of play but for it to get exposed teams need to commit men forward which is exactly what Liverpool want as their front line is devastating. An upgrade in goals would be better than an upgrade at cb. I'm hoping that with mignolet dropped yesterday its in the pipeline. As mignolet and Karius are not good enough and will not make the vital saves consistently like ddg, courtoius etc.

TitianGerm

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Mr.H

eagle eye wrote:

Well for a start you already have Lallana, Solanke and Origi. You also have the outcast who has never really been giving a proper chance in Lazar Markovic and James Milner is well capable of player in the wide attacking positions too. It's not like you are short of attacking players. Hell Danny Ings has never gotten a shot when he was fit either.

So yea you want Liverpool to play James Miller in one not the front 3????? That would totally suit Liverpool's fast pace.

Ings never got a chance????? He did then he got injured then he did again then he got injured again. He has never been fit enough to get an extended run.

Lallanas best position is center mid. Solanke is a great future option. Markovic got his chances and failed. Didn't exactly light up the place on loan last season either.

Minderbinder

Think this Liverpool bid for Lemar is a very strange one. They've obviously not been able to get the Keita and VVD deals through already this summer because they didn't meet evaluations. This £55.5m bid is also unlikely to be enough. Are they just making offers they know will be rejected or what's going on?

eagle eye

Mr.H wrote: »

So yea you want Liverpool to play James Miller in one not the front 3????? That would totally suit Liverpool's fast pace.

Ings never got a chance????? He did then he got injured then he did again then he got injured again. He has never been fit enough to get an extended run.

Lallanas best position is center mid. Solanke is a great future option. Markovic got his chances and failed. Didn't exactly light up the place on loan last season either.

I said Milner is an option, he has played there before and played well too. Quit the hyperbole that I'm suggesting he should be starting there or just go away.

Lallana can play the position is what I said. When he and Coutinho come back one of them is going to lose out on a starting position ergo good backup for the other position as well.

TitianGerm

Minderbinder wrote: »

Think this Liverpool bid for Lemar is a very strange one. They've obviously not been able to get the Keita and VVD deals through already this summer because they didn't meet evaluations. This £55.5m bid is also unlikely to be enough. Are they just making offers they know will be rejected or what's going on?

Echo running with it now as well.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/thomas-lemar-liverpool-prepared-shatter-13539976#ICID=ios_lfcecho_AppShare_Click_Other

Also apparently Barca are chasing Kieta now.

Cantona's Collars

Drinkwater to Chelsea reported as done with Krychowiak to replace him at Leicester.

pjohnson

zerks wrote: »

Drinkwater to Chelsea reported as done with Krychowiak to replace him at Leicester.

3 years ago today they got Cambiasso

Mr. Guappa

"Dembele Day" on Barca twitter. SSN showed some clips of it. The highlight was him posing outside the training complex entrance, where the huge slogans on the wall include respect and humility. Either there sense of irony is off the charts or they are the least self-aware people on the planet.

irishman86

irishman86 wrote: »

Its a smart move for ffp, but the transfer is not a optional one at the end of the loan

Who says they can't build it into the loan contract? Option to buy?

irishman86

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Who says they can't build it into the loan contract? Option to buy?

Monaco for one
They never would agree to it, this is a loan to purchase move

Lucas Hood

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Who says they can't build it into the loan contract? Option to buy?

Monaco aren't gong to loan him to them with no obligation to buy makes no sense for them at all.

This is just PSG getting around ffp.

rob316

Deadline day will be a real dead rubber with all the players on international duty. Managers already warning players to have there futures sorted today.

pjohnson

Foyth supposedly off to Spurs. WTF is going on with Aurier? Is he allowed into England yet? Thought that verdict was due weeks back

Dirty Dingus McGee

zerks wrote: »

Drinkwater to Chelsea reported as done with Krychowiak to replace him at Leicester.

Why would Krychowiak go to Leicester , I would think he could do much better than that.

ben.schlomo

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

Why would Krychowiak go to Leicester , I would think he could do much better than that.

Really good signing if true.

retalivity

Dortmund sign yarmalenko for €25m
Keita to liverpool done, to go through next summer instead.

Utopia Parkway

Naby Keita signs for Liverpool but not joining until Summer 2018. Had medical today. Unusual.

Skylinehead

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

Why would Krychowiak go to Leicester , I would think he could do much better than that.

I'd rather him than Danny Drinkwater...I guess Chelsea need homegrown players?

eagle eye

Liverpool made sure to get their man. If they left it until next summer there was the potential of going up against all the big clubs. It's kinda similar to players being bought with a one year loan back deal.

Agent Coulson

Red Bull also get the €48m buyout clause now and probably another €10/12m thrown in now as the sweetener for doing the deal now.

eagle eye

Skylinehead wrote:

I'd rather him than Danny Drinkwater...I guess Chelsea need homegrown players?

Drinkwater looked pretty awesome playing beside a certain little genius the season before last. Do you remember who that other player was?

I think it's a smart move by Chelsea.

Bounty Hunter

Liverpool making a statement if the links come to fruition. Yes a CB or even a GK would perhaps make more sense (although from listening to Klopp bigging up his GKs I doubt he is looking there atm) but if they can actually sign Lemar as well as lining Keita up for next year they are really looking like an attractive proposition for players. Especially when you work in that they have CL football more money to spend, Klopp and just humbled Arsenal. If they can keep Coutinho on top of all this then they really are looking good and progressing in a very positive direction.

Dirty Dingus McGee

eagle eye wrote: »

Drinkwater looked pretty awesome playing beside a certain little genius the season before last. Do you remember who that other player was?

I think it's a smart move by Chelsea.

Marc Albrighton?

pjohnson

With Liverpool "doing a PSG" and not signing Keita until next summer I wonder does that mean they actually WILL try and get Lemar as the big signing this summer?

TitianGerm

pjohnson wrote: »

With Liverpool "doing a PSG" and not signing Keita until next summer I wonder does that mean they actually WILL try and get Lemar as the big signing this summer?

Very smart with Kieta I think. Klopp obviously wanted him and rather than wait and fight with other teams next summer they sign him now.

Mr.H

To be fair Liverpool made a bid of £67 million already this summer. His buyout was €48 million (£44m). So any figure under 17 million as a premium and Liverpool paid less than they were willing to