Summer transfer thread 17/18 season (NEYMAR TALK IN OTHER THREAD)

pjohnson

Andersonisgod wrote: »

When so many recruits this season and last fall into a certain category, it's good to bring in an old head. Especially one who can still cut it at the top, is an absolutely model pro who younger players will learn from and has the distinct added advantage of knowing the demands and facets of Guardiola's approach and should be able to help in enforcing those qualities to fellow teammates. Excellent signing.

I bet you said the same about Bravo.

Andersonisgod

pjohnson wrote: »

I bet you said the same about Bravo.

That'd be tough considering a decent proportion of what I said in my 2 comments about the transfer do not apply to Bravo.

eagle eye

Dani Alves has been a fantastic player for a long time and he has just had another great season. He is up there in the argument, along with his compatriot Cafu, for greatest right back of all time.

Having said that I'm not so sure it's a good signing. The Premier league is different and you see players like him getting caught out of position all too often and if Alves has lost any pace it will happen to him. He is a very similar type of player to Pablo Zabaleta who has lost a bit of pace and really can't be as involved in an attacking sense anymore like he was in his prime.

Harry Palmr

Lord TSC wrote: »

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In the current market, that looks a decent deal. Or am I missing something?

As a Fifa player, I dread the idea of Mane and Salah having perfect chemistry together :P

Oh I'm in favour of Salah but not the torrent of puns and plays on words!

Cantona's Collars

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Oh I'm in favour of Salah but not the torrent of puns and plays on words!

Who doesn't like a nice Chicken Tikka Moh Salah?


I'll get me coat.

Cantona's Collars

Sky sources: West Ham are trying to sign Giroud.

inforfun

zerks wrote: »

https://twitter.com/FootballOranje_/status/876362444595240960

Everton spending the Lukaku money despite not selling him......yet.

They can come back when they have a serious offer.

JPA

zerks wrote: »

https://twitter.com/FootballOranje_/status/876362444595240960

Everton spending the Lukaku money despite not selling him......yet.

Spending the Barkley money as well.

pjohnson

eagle eye wrote: »

Dani Alves has been a fantastic player for a long time and he has just had another great season. He is up there in the argument, along with his compatriot Cafu, for greatest right back of all time.

Having said that I'm not so sure it's a good signing. The Premier league is different and you see players like him getting caught out of position all too often and if Alves has lost any pace it will happen to him. He is a very similar type of player to Pablo Zabaleta who has lost a bit of pace and really can't be as involved in an attacking sense anymore like he was in his prime.

Exactly. It'd be like a reverse Evra lol. An ageing Evra went from struggling to survive a match in the PL to a League and Cup winner in his two years at Juve. Being a great fullback in Italy is totally different to a good fullback in England.

Burial.

Maicon is another. Dani Alves is a special player though.

eh i dunno

inforfun wrote: »

They can come back when they have a serious offer.

How good is he infor? Read somewhere he was the best player in Holland last season. What you think?

inforfun

Depends on which newspaper or football magazine but he won Player of the Year with most of them.
21 goals, 10 assists and very important for the first title since 1999.
Would hate to see him go, certainly for that little bit of money (if you see what other players go for)
Never really noticed him before he signed last season so you go for the usual youtube clips.
There is a clip around of all goals he scored for Kopenhagen and the first thing i noticed his goals there were almost all his teams first goal. The goals that count so to say.
Never pay too much attention to the rest of those clips because if you try hard enough, you could make a clip of my goals and sell me for €10m. But guys that score the important goals with such a consistency are hard to find.
It wasnt that obvious for Feyenoord this year but they scored a lot more than Kopenhagen did when he was there.

As usual with Scandinavians, he is a big lad but he has a very good technique. Not the kind of player that wants to show off without anything coming from it. At times i thought he was just on another level than some of his team mates with going in to spaces and creating space for others. Kuyt and Toornstra scored a lot because of his play.

That said... before he even kicked a ball he mentioned he wouldnt mind at all to finish his contract at Feyenoord. He signed for 5 years last year.
But well.... when a stupid offer comes in..... but 20 million is too low.

Feyenoord has an interest in 3 players in the eredivisie but those clubs are asking stupid prices. Now Feyenoord has CL football they think they can bleed them dry.

Surely paves the way for lukaku to move now

https://twitter.com/PayetForward/status/876352580225576960

Rekop dog

pjohnson wrote: »

Exactly. It'd be like a reverse Evra lol. An ageing Evra went from struggling to survive a match in the PL to a League and Cup winner in his two years at Juve. Being a great fullback in Italy is totally different to a good fullback in England.

Champions league final aside, Juve and Alves were phenomenal defensively in Europe against elite teams, whereas most English sides struggled. I'm sure he'll be fine.

Cantona's Collars

https://twitter.com/_pauljoyce/status/876583387808641025

"Barcelona to trigger buy back on Gerard Deulofeu. Everton to receive £10.5m"

hufpc8w3adnk65

zerks wrote: »

https://twitter.com/_pauljoyce/status/876583387808641025

"Barcelona to trigger buy back on Gerard Deulofeu. Everton to receive £10.5m"

Barca and Real are some operators when it comes to buy back clauses!!

inforfun

The only remarkable thing about Deulofeu is that he is still playing U21 tournaments while i have the idea he is already that long "famous" he should be close to retirement

pjohnson

Rekop dog wrote: »

Champions league final aside, Juve and Alves were phenomenal defensively in Europe against elite teams, whereas most English sides struggled. I'm sure he'll be fine.

So did Patrice in his Juve years.

Gavlor

zerks wrote: »

https://twitter.com/_pauljoyce/status/876583387808641025

"Barcelona to trigger buy back on Gerard Deulofeu. Everton to receive £10.5m"

Tidy player and will probably rip it up in Spain when he gets the chance but he was too much of a passenger for most of the game for a team like Everton. That said, he has always claimed to be a centre attacking midfielder but never had an opportunity to show that under Martinez or koeman

razorblunt

Burial. wrote: »

Maicon is another. Dani Alves is a special player though.

Wiki tells me (I was double checking I hadn't imagined his Man City spell) that he has a brother called Marlon Brando.

There you go. Happy Monday.

GavRedKing

According to Dani Alves wiki page (edited an hour ago) he plays for Rangers.

Fair play to him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dani_Alves

Andersonisgod

Delofeu....not Dembele. God love us, Bartomeu and his merry men have quite the sense of humour.

ERG89

Andersonisgod wrote:

Delofeu....not Dembele. God love us, Bartomeu and his merry men have quite the sense of humour.

It'll cost about €70 to €80m less. If Dembele was signed who'd be dropped?
I imagine a significant amount of transfer funds this summer will be going to a new contract with Messi.

marklazarcovic

he wont get game time at barca,no chance,he will be bought back and sold on again for 20 mil

Laois_Man

marklazarcovic wrote: »

he wont get game time at barca,no chance,he will be bought back and sold on again for 20 mil

They're not allowed to sell him again for 12 months, by which time he'd be worth little if he's been sat on his arse most of the season (which he will be)

I've seen lots of reports stating that Barca want to take him back but none saying that Del is willing to sign. He'd be foolish if he did.

Mr. Guappa

SSN: Chelsea join Liverpool and Man City in race to sign Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain.

Am I missing something with Oxlade-Chamberlain?

GavRedKing

Mr. Guappa wrote: »

SSN: Chelsea join Liverpool and Man City in race to sign Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain.

Am I missing something with Oxlade-Chamberlain?

Whe he first joined Arsenal he looked like he could go on to be a very good player, never really pushed on though, IMO. I think theres potential there but I wouldnt be paying the money Arsenal would be looking for which would I assume be about 35-40m given hes relatively young, English and has decent big game experience but that sort of money for a guy who makes most of his appearances from the bench would be a bit of a strange transfer for Arsenals rivals.

Francie Barrett

Deulofeu will probably go back out on loan. Just like that other former Barcelona superstar, Bojan.

Minderbinder

Mr. Guappa wrote: »

SSN: Chelsea join Liverpool and Man City in race to sign Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain.

Am I missing something with Oxlade-Chamberlain?

He looks like the new James Milner to me.

Andersonisgod

ERG89 wrote: »

It'll cost about €70 to €80m less. If Dembele was signed who'd be dropped?
I imagine a significant amount of transfer funds this summer will be going to a new contract with Messi.

If the board were more intelligent in their recruitment it wouldn't. Doing it in the right way, there's no way itd be 90 million.

Lord TSC

I see Lewandowski's agent I see mouthing off that the player didn't feel "supported" when he was pushing for the top scorer award in the final game of the season. Reads like he is going to start pushing for a move. Real Madrid touted as the probable destination.

dr.kenneth noisewater

Lord TSC wrote:

I see Lewandowski's agent I see mouthing off that the player didn't feel "supported" when he was pushing for the top scorer award in the final game of the season. Reads like he is going to start pushing for a move. Real Madrid touted as the probable destination.

Swap with Ronaldo would be interesting

Burial.

Mr. Guappa wrote: »

SSN: Chelsea join Liverpool and Man City in race to sign Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain.

Am I missing something with Oxlade-Chamberlain?

I can only guess City are trying to boost their English player numbers just like Delph a few seasons back.

Andersonisgod

Was always a fan of the Ox, though despite being at Arsenal, working under the same coach for years, it's unbelievable that they haven't found his best position yet. He would certainly benefit from a change of scenery and the input of a different coach. The quality of clubs chasing him speaks volumes about his talent and potential.

ERG89

Minderbinder wrote:

He looks like the new James Milner to me.

Milner is consistent that's his thing. Ox is anything but. He played best this season as a right wing back & then said he wanted to be played as a centre midfielder. I can't see him doing a job there for any of the club's mentioned if he can't do it at Arsenal.

Andersonisgod wrote:

If the board were more intelligent in their recruitment it wouldn't. Doing it in the right way, there's no way itd be 90 million.

Dortmund will want big money for Dembele. No way he goes cheap in the current market. After Aubameyang goes he is their biggest player since Reus is always injured, even more than Weigl or Pulisic imo. Barca badly need a right back & likely another midfielder since Andre Gomes has been so poor.

Andersonisgod

ERG89 wrote: »

Milner is consistent that's his thing. Ox is anything but. He played best this season as a right wing back & then said he wanted to be played as a centre midfielder. I can't see him doing a job there for any of the club's mentioned if he can't do it at Arsenal.



Dortmund will want big money for Dembele. No way he goes cheap in the current market. After Aubameyang goes he is their biggest player since Reus is always injured, even more than Weigl or Pulisic imo. Barca badly need a right back & likely another midfielder since Andre Gomes has been so poor.

Barca should have pushed harder to sign him last summer. Anyway what I'm getting at is that this is Barcelona, who, when managed correctly (board, not head coach) should always be able to attract these big players at a lesser price than their biggest rivals.

RobertKK

Man City preparing a bid for Aubameyang. SSN.

Andersonisgod

RobertKK wrote: »

Man City preparing a bid for Aubameyang. SSN.

Fair reflection of Aguero's season.

Liam McPoyle

RobertKK wrote: »

Man City preparing a bid for Aubameyang. SSN.

Pep meeting with the City board.

Lukker-

RobertKK wrote: »

Man City preparing a bid for Aubameyang. SSN.

Apparently he's just backup if they don't get Sanchez

Lord TSC

Simon Stone at the BBC has shut down the City/Auba stories, saying there's nothing in them.

SuperTortoise

Lord TSC wrote: »

Simon Stone at the BBC has shut down the City/Auba stories, saying there's nothing in them.

I'd bet it's his agent looking for a payday now that PSG have moved on.

Mr.Nice Guy

Nice's Jean Michael Seri is seemingly very close to a move to Roma. He was one of the best players in Ligue 1 last season. Very good in possession and he made Nice tick at the heart of midfield. Quite a similar player to Verratti. I thought PSG might go for him if Verratti left for Barca.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Nice's Jean Michael Seri is seemingly very close to a move to Roma. He was one of the best players in Ligue 1 last season. Very good in possession and he made Nice tick at the heart of midfield. Quite a similar player to Verratti. I thought PSG might go for him if Verratti left for Barca.

Roma spending the Salah money?

HalloweenJack

I can barely think of seeing Seri having a poor game anytime I saw him last year. I'd love to see how he does in a tougher league.

inforfun

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Roma spending the Salah money?

They are in for Karsdorp as well.
Problem for them is that it isnt 2011 anymore and Feyenoord is healthy club now and no one is going for cheap anymore and so the asking price is €20 million.

DubDani

Some movement in Germany.

Bayern have agreed a fee of 40 mil. with Juventus for Douglas Costa. Considering they paid only 30 mil for him and generally was mostly underwhelming not a bad deal for Bayern.

Cologne have apparently agreed with Tianjin Quanjian a 35 mil Euro fee for Modeste, who is expected to be paid around 10 mil a year in China. That's a lot of money for a player that no European Club was in for.

Cantona's Collars

https://twitter.com/JPercyTelegraph/status/877090360383737856

West Brom in talks to sign Jay Rodriguez.


Barcelona reported to be in contact with Spurs for Kyle Walker.

Cantona's Collars

https://twitter.com/romeoagresti/status/877105129010466816

"Dani Alves has agreed a 2 yr contract with Man City".

Cervantes2

zerks wrote: »

Barcelona reported to be in contact with Spurs for Kyle Walker.

:rolleyes: