Summer transfer thread 17/18 season (NEYMAR TALK IN OTHER THREAD)

Andersonisgod

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Neymar had the most assists out of any player in the CL. I believe he broke a record. Add to that his 4 goals.
I'm not suggesting he currently is an all round better player than Messi. I just think he was more influential for Barca in that competition and in particular in the latter stages.
A killer blow indeed if he is gone.

A killer blow...so how many years do you think Barcelona will go without winning the league? 1 year? 2 years? Maybe 4 years? Or how long do you think Barca will take to win the CL again? 1 year? 2 years? 8 years? What does killer blow actually mean?

Arghus

28 years I reckon.

pjohnson

I thought Pique rubber stamped Neymar staying on Twitter? Wouldnt be letting the center back conduct transfer dealings anyway.

HigginsJ

Middlesborough has signed Ashley Flethcher from West Ham for £6.5 million, what the bloody hell is happening in the world.

Slaven Bilic commented "We got a fantastic offer for Ashley and ideally I wanted to help him with a different kind of scenario, but at the end of the day the offer was so good for the club and for him personally"

I'm pretty sure everyone at West Ham was gobsmacked by the offer, mental stuff from Boro. :eek:

Giggsy11

pjohnson wrote: »

I thought Pique rubber stamped Neymar staying on Twitter? Wouldnt be letting the center back conduct transfer dealings anyway.

Dodgy guy - so eligible for Barca's president role.

GavRedKing

Burial. wrote: »

Messi dragged that Barca side all season. One killer game in the CL doesn't mean much. Neymar was **** for a good portion of the season.

This, had Barca managed to catch Madrid in the league it would have been pretty much down to Messis brilliance and this season just gone was probably his most complete, had Barca not screwed up in the away loss to Malaga, a match in which Neymar was sent off in, cost Barca big time as earlier, Real themselves had just been held at home to Atletico it could have been one of Messis greatest seasons, couple that with the match winning performance at the Bernabeu too and it was a "what if" season for Barca.

I think more of those seasons will happen too, they cant rely on Messi all the time and losing Neymar would be a huge blow, nobody in the world can replace him, IMO, well, nobody they can get.

The woeful Balague is reporting Coutinho’s agent have agreed move to Barcelona

Osmosis Jones

Any and all reliable Liverpool journos saying there's nothing in the Coutinho rumours, just another case of Barca press trying to unsettle a player it seems.

TitianGerm

M!Ck^ wrote: »

The woeful Balague is reporting Coutinho’s agent have agreed move to Barcelona

He's definitely staying so :pac:

Brendan Flowers

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Hopefully he'll nab Verratti if this Neymar deal goes through. Coutinho looks likely too. Pique will rubber stamp the deals.

Unless Verratti is used as part of a deal which will see Neymar move to PSG, I think when he does leave Paris that it'll be Man Utd where he ends up going.

Coutinho won't be easy....I'd expect Barca will have the beat the Pogba transfer record to sign him.

As for the comment about Pique rubber stamping deals, what nonsense is this?

GavRedKing

Brendan Flowers wrote: »

Unless Verratti is used as part of a deal which will see Neymar move to PSG, I think when he does leave Paris that it'll be Man Utd where he ends up going.

Coutinho won't be easy....I'd expect Barca will have the beat the Pogba transfer record to sign him.

As for the comment about Pique rubber stamping deals, what nonsense is this?

Verratti seems to have his heart set on Barca, he wont go this year anyway to them, hes just signed a new deal but just because Raiola is now his agent, I wouldnt be willing to bet that he'll end up anywhere but Barca next, even with Raiolas deals with Utd in the past 4 years or so.

irishman86

Harry Palmr wrote: »

:rolleyes: Seriously take the goggles off.

:rolleyes: Youre right a guy with one season at the top is better than Pogba :rolleyes: a player Ive watched unlike 99% of the people on this site and yes hes a poor mans Pogba

marklazarcovic

Seen the clip and it was heated all right,Neymar tore off his bib and walked off afterwards

irishman86

astradave wrote: »

Is Irishman a United fan? I didn't think he was and I thought he clarified that before?

Anyways that phrase is absolutely awful and I doubt a genuine football fan would call him a "poor mans anyone".

He has had a cracking season and looks a brilliant talent, my only negative would be for the price he has relatively little(1 year)to no experience at the highest level

No I'm not a United fan
It seems just because I rate Pogba and dont rate Coutinho that people think I am :pac:
I dont know how much times I've said Im a Marseille fan
If anything, I prefer Arsenal and Newcastle
I worded it wrong, a player similar to Pogba just not as talented

irishman86

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Get Coutinho, get Verratti or Ousmane Dembele, get Neymar out of the club.

Im actually shocked you want him :eek:
The other two yes but :eek:

Andersonisgod

irishman86 wrote: »

Im actually shocked you want him :eek:
The other two yes but :eek:

He's a magical player, incredible ability and technique and he inspires awe in supporters, he belongs at Barcelona.

TitianGerm

Andersonisgod wrote: »

He's a magical player, incredible ability and technique and he inspires awe in supporters, he belongs at Barcelona.

Is that you Pique :pac:

irishman86

Andersonisgod wrote: »

He's a magical player, incredible ability and technique and he inspires awe in supporters, he belongs at Barcelona.

Haha I guess we will disagree
Two out of three we agree on though, Verrarti though I have a feeling the Neymar signing is to keep him happy

Fromvert

Coutinho would cost Barca over £100m, would they pay it?

Reports are his new contract he only recently signed has no release clause. Liverpool aren't going to budge unless he kicks up an almighty fuss and even when Suarez did the first time he trained alone for a few days before accepting he wouldn't be sold that summer. This is more Barca starting their transfer bid for him next summer now which I can see happening.

Fromvert

Fromvert wrote: »

Coutinho would cost Barca over £100m, would they pay it?

Reports are his new contract he only recently signed has no release clause. Liverpool aren't going to budge unless he kicks up an almighty fuss and even when Suarez did the first time he trained alone for a few days before accepting he wouldn't be sold that summer. This is more Barca starting their transfer bid for him next summer now which I could see happening.

Well if they got 140 + million for Neymar I see no reason why not

Fromvert

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Well if they got 140 + million for Neymar I see no reason why not

Are they not a little tight for money? And they could probaby do with a couple of players instead of spending most of it on Coutinho

WoollyRedHat

Hope PSG players put their jersey on Neymar, that would be funny.

Comment aimez-vous ces pommes Piques?

GavRedKing

Fromvert wrote: »

Are they not a little tight for money? And they could probaby do with a couple of players instead of spending most of it on Coutinho

Between the front 3 theyre paying about a million a week on wages alone.

If Neymar goes they'll be flush enough but theyed be better advised to curb their massive wage bill, at the top end, than spending it all on one player, IMO.

TitianGerm

GavRedKing wrote: »

Between the front 3 theyre paying about a million a week on wages alone.

If Neymar goes they'll be flush enough but theyed be better advised to curb their massive wage bill, at the top end, than spending it all on one player, IMO.

How would the Barca fanbase take replacing Neymar with Couthino? Not very well I'd guess especially if Court is going to cost them a massive chuck of the Neymar fee.

LiamoSail

pjohnson wrote: »

I thought Pique rubber stamped Neymar staying on Twitter? Wouldnt be letting the center back conduct transfer dealings anyway.

That's what happens when you have a centre back that's mes que un centre back

marklazarcovic

the way ye go on lads ye would swear your own clubs never shafted a smaller club for a player,or tapped one up,gimme a break

WoollyRedHat

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

Hope PSG players put their jersey on Neymar, that would be funny.

Comment aimez-vous ces pommes Piques?

Hopefully not. The amount of people still not over that one. The horror of putting on another clubs jersey...

Trigger

https://twitter.com/mailsport/status/890959562362290181

Osmosis Jones

If not this summer then never, Bayern will probably trigger his release clause next summer and that'll be the end of it unfortunately.

ERG89

HigginsJ wrote:

Middlesborough has signed Ashley Flethcher from West Ham for £6.5 million, what the bloody hell is happening in the world.

They have the worst eye for a striker. Badly needed one in January & they got Bamford & Gestede.....
Now they paid about 20m pounds for Assombalonga (had to Google that spelling) & Fletcher who West Ham must have broke their fax machine they accepted that bid so quick.

marklazarcovic

have to credit leipzig, they meant what they said,wasnt just posture

irishman86

ERG89 wrote: »

They have the worst eye for a striker. Badly needed one in January & they got Bamford & Gestede.....
Now they paid about 20m pounds for Assombalonga (had to Google that spelling) & Fletcher who West Ham must have broke their fax machine they accepted that bid so quick.

Bamford isnt a bad signing. Gestede though :pac:
They paid 15 for Assombalonga pretty much the same as Villa paid for Kodjia so not a surprise.
Fletcher doesnt make sense for me though, anytime I seen him he looked all over the place

Liam McPoyle

marklazarcovic wrote: »

have to credit leipzig, they meant what they said,wasnt just posture

They've shown fair balls tbh.

Take £70 odd for him now or most likely he goes next year for substantially less.

First year in BL too.

Imagine a newly promoted PL team turning that kinda moolah down.

I'm sure there will be alot of eyes on him this year given the interest shown, will be interesting to see how he gets on with a spotlight on him.

martyos121

Rod Munch wrote: »

They've shown fair balls tbh.

Take £70 odd for him now or most likely he goes next year for substantially less.

First year in BL too.

Imagine a newly promoted PL team turning that kinda moolah down.

I'm sure there will be alot of eyes on him this year given the interest shown, will be interesting to see how he gets on with a spotlight on him.

What I don't understand about their stance is the fact that they can either sell him to us for a massive chunk of change now, or more than likely lose him to FC Hollywood, the club they're trying to compete with, for an awful lot less next summer. So, £74m to sell him to a foreign club, of £48m to their closest rival when his value might be even higher.

It's either admirably optimistic and ambitious, or utterly stupid. I think it's already a foregone conclusion that he's off to Bayern in 12 months time now that he's off the market this year.

WoollyRedHat

RoboKlopp wrote: »

Hopefully not. The amount of people still not over that one. The horror of putting on another clubs jersey...

While in front of lots of people. It was ridiculously disrespectful and reflective of the arrogance and perceived divine right of Barcelona to lay claim to any player through whatever means necessary because the player has 'Barcelona D.N.A'.

WoollyRedHat

marklazarcovic wrote: »

the way ye go on lads ye would swear your own clubs never shafted a smaller club for a player,or tapped one up,gimme a break

I support Arsenal. Barcelona take the word tapping up to another level.

irishman86

martyos121 wrote: »

What I don't understand about their stance is the fact that they can either sell him to us for a massive chunk of change now, or more than likely lose him to FC Hollywood, the club they're trying to compete with, for an awful lot less next summer. So, £74m to sell him to a foreign club, of £48m to their closest rival when his value might be even higher.

It's either admirably optimistic and ambitious, or utterly stupid. I think it's already a foregone conclusion that he's off to Bayern in 12 months time now that he's off the market this year.

Why? Not every player moves to Bayern, perhaps he will sign a new contract. Plus its not like they need the money already they turned down a bid for there Swede assist maestro

Trigger

I reckon they might negotiate a new improved contract with him throughout the year with a 100m release clause or so.

marklazarcovic

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

I support Arsenal. Barcelona take the word tapping up to another level.

Didn't arsenal take some youngsters from barcas academy through some loophole?

TitianGerm

martyos121 wrote: »

What I don't understand about their stance is the fact that they can either sell him to us for a massive chunk of change now, or more than likely lose him to FC Hollywood, the club they're trying to compete with, for an awful lot less next summer. So, £74m to sell him to a foreign club, of £48m to their closest rival when his value might be even higher.

It's either admirably optimistic and ambitious, or utterly stupid. I think it's already a foregone conclusion that he's off to Bayern in 12 months time now that he's off the market this year.

Very similar to Sanchez, sell him outside the league this Summer or risk him signing for City next Summer for free.

If Liverpool don't get him this Summer he'll be at Bayern or one of the other big European teams the following year.

JPA

Rod Munch wrote: »

They've shown fair balls tbh.

Take £70 odd for him now or most likely he goes next year for substantially less.

First year in BL too.

Imagine a newly promoted PL team turning that kinda moolah down.

I'm sure there will be alot of eyes on him this year given the interest shown, will be interesting to see how he gets on with a spotlight on him.

They're not some plucky underdog standing up to the big clubs. They're well backed.

Andersonisgod

LiamoSail wrote: »

That's what happens when you have a centre back that's mes que un centre back

Or a board unworthy of the club they represent mixed with a group of players who are literally once in a lifetime bunch both on and off the pitch.

Cookiemunster

JPA wrote: »

They're not some plucky underdog standing up to the big clubs. They're well backed.

Exactly. When the were in BL2 they spent more money than most of the BL clubs.

Utopia Parkway

marklazarcovic wrote: »

have to credit leipzig, they meant what they said,wasnt just posture

Transfer window isn't closed yet. As ever all it takes is one phone call to turn a dead deal into a live one.

eagle eye

Keita playing in Emirates Cup for RB Leipzig. If there was anything happening I doubt he would be playing.

Lukker-

eagle eye wrote: »

Keita playing in Emirates Cup for RB Leipzig. If there was anything happening I doubt he would be playing.

I dunno, clubs seem to play em regardless these days, look at Neymar. I know it's a diff situation, but Persicic was also playing for Inter today and he's United bound possibly.

RobertKK

http://www.marca.com/en/football/barcelona/2017/07/29/597caa7b468aeb2c4f8b4644.html

Barcelona are supposedly treathening PSG over Neymar, saying they would be breaking FFP rules and would face expulsion from the CL for being a repeat offender.

Gbear

RobertKK wrote: »

http://www.marca.com/en/football/barcelona/2017/07/29/597caa7b468aeb2c4f8b4644.html

Barcelona are supposedly treathening PSG over Neymar, saying they would be breaking FFP rules and would face expulsion from the CL for being a repeat offender.

They'll presumably have some way to weasel out of the FFP implications just the same as every other club at the top end of football has since it was implemented.

eagle eye

RobertKK wrote:

Barcelona are supposedly treathening PSG over Neymar, saying they would be breaking FFP rules and would face expulsion from the CL for being a repeat offender.

If that is true they have some cheek.

I'm not anti-barca in any but it'd be hypocritical of them to go threatening anybody about ffp.

Agent Coulson

Barcelona taking the proverbial.