Summer transfer thread 17/18 season (NEYMAR TALK IN OTHER THREAD)

The Talking Bread

ERG89 wrote: »

Nice were so far below Napoli's level if they had 15 players they'd have still been beaten with Balotelli & Sneijder on the pitch.



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No doubting that.

It'd more tongue in cheek.

Nevertheless he doesnt seem to be the second coming Barca online warriors think he could eventually evolve into (from what I have seen, admittedly! )

irishman86

rossie1977 wrote: »

No good having an attack when there is little to no creativity in midfield. Can, Wijnaldum, Henderson and Milner are all similar type players. Coutinho can take out the entire defence with one ball, is dangerous 30 yards from goal and one of the best dead ball specialists in world football right now. Liverpool had a couple of frees just outside the box against palace and Milner, can, Henderson wasted them completely.



t

:pac::pac: no he isnt one f the best free kick takers
In fact Milner is a better free kick taker than him

machiavellianme

TAA is a better free kick taker than all of them. 100% record.

Utopia Parkway

Liverpool will still score plenty of goals without Coutinho but he provides a lot of the fluidity in the team when he does play. He links the midfield to the defence and the attack especially as it is likely that he was going to have a deeper role this season as part of the midfield three rather than the front three. Mane and Salah would have thrived on his through balls and obviously he is a big threat from free-kicks. And also for a "creative" type player he is an extremely hard worker and will run, press and tackle all day.

I think had Liverpool got their targets in earlier in the Summer they would probably have let Coutinho go for that kind of money but at this stage you are almost writing the season off if you let him go now. Granted you could still spend the money next year but where will Liverpool be by then?

rossie1977

irishman86 wrote: »

:pac::pac: no he isnt one f the best free kick takers
In fact Milner is a better free kick taker than him

Clearly you don't know who Coutinho is or something given your comments about him in this thread over the past few weeks

Milner is a better free kick taker than a guy who can do this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejOyxsKJ4xQ

Or this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY36743nXz8

marklazarcovic

We won't get 100 million plus from Barca nxt season,and they are the only ones in for him,if he goes nxt year it will be for less Imo,much like naby keita.

He wants to go,not a chance he's injured either. Just like Sanchez isn't injured,it's just spiel. I'd love if he stayed but only if he's committed to LFC,not biding his time til next season playing the odd good game to keep in Brazil's team.

TitianGerm

marklazarcovic wrote: »

We won't get 100 million plus from Barca nxt season,and they are the only ones in for him,if he goes nxt year it will be for less Imo,much like naby keita.

He wants to go,not a chance he's injured either. Just like Sanchez isn't injured,it's just spiel. I'd love if he stayed but only if he's committed to LFC,not biding his time til next season playing the odd good game to keep in Brazil's team.

If Couthino does as good as last season or better there is no reason why we wouldn't get £100m+ next summer.

irishman86

rossie1977 wrote: »

Clearly you don't know who Coutinho is or something given your comments about him in this thread over the past few weeks

Milner is a better free kick taker than a guy who can do this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejOyxsKJ4xQ

Or this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY36743nXz8

How about google Milner free kicks :rolleyes:

irishman86

rossie1977 wrote: »

Clearly you don't know who Coutinho is or something given your comments about him in this thread over the past few weeks

Milner is a better free kick taker than a guy who can do this

Its ok i did it for you and yes clearly i see Couthino objectively not with them red tinted glasses you are wearing

KERSPLAT!

irishman86 wrote: »

Its ok i did it for you and yes clearly i see Couthino objectively not with them red tinted glasses you are wearing

I'd say you've milk bottle glasses the way you comment on players. Jesse flipping Lingard.

Fromvert

marklazarcovic wrote: »

We won't get 100 million plus from Barca nxt season,and they are the only ones in for him,if he goes nxt year it will be for less Imo,much like naby keita.

He wants to go,not a chance he's injured either. Just like Sanchez isn't injured,it's just spiel. I'd love if he stayed but only if he's committed to LFC,not biding his time til next season playing the odd good game to keep in Brazil's team.

Good, then he sees out his five year contract as the offer isn't good enough.

emmetkenny

emmetkenny wrote: »

If Couthino does as good as last season or better there is no reason why we wouldn't get £100m+ next summer.

Well Barca may potentially find someone else to fill that spot in their squad which will cool their interest. There are an extremely limited number of clubs who can pay €100m for anyone, probably just Barca, Real, PSG, Utd and City. Utd is out of the question, don't think City or Real would need him.

dr.kenneth noisewater

DING DING, actual transfer!
[font=ReithSans, Arial, Helvetica, freesans, sans-serif]Huddersfield Town have signed Nuremberg forward Abdelhamid Sabiri,[/font][font=ReithSans, Arial, Helvetica, freesans, sans-serif] [/font]Probably one for the future
Meanwhile, Spurs have signed Southamptons 3rd choice keeper as their 3rd choice keeper

TitianGerm

Benson Sour Tugboat wrote: »

Well Barca may potentially find someone else to fill that spot in their squad which will cool their interest. There are an extremely limited number of clubs who can pay €100m for anyone, probably just Barca, Real, PSG, Utd and City. Utd is out of the question, don't think City or Real would need him.

Then we keep him and we are better for it.

The Talking Bread

Benson Sour Tugboat wrote: »

Well Barca may potentially find someone else to fill that spot in their squad which will cool their interest. There are an extremely limited number of clubs who can pay €100m for anyone, probably just Barca, Real, PSG, Utd and City. Utd is out of the question, don't think City or Real would need him.

PC would potentially be the difference between Liverpool getting a top 4 this season and not, never mind progressing in the Champions League. (If they qualify)
That, in itself is worth far more than even if not selling him this season meant 25 % or even 30% knocked off his fee next season (which is unlikely given the market inflation at the minute )


Liverpool are not in a position where they need to sell PC. They do need at least two more good defenders and maybe a CM. But they should have plenty enough financial reserve and some more bargaining power if they progress tonight

yabadabado

If Pool had done good business at the start of the summer then they might have let Coutinho go for 130.No point having 300m at this stage if you cant spend it.

I cant see Pool getting top 4 this season too much pressure on that squad with CL football.Really surprised there hasn't been a better push to sign players.

Harry Palmr

Coutinho, world cup winner will move should he still want to for 100m easily. Even if he just has a good tournament on a personal level he'll still go for stupid money. It's not as if Liverpool are desperate for the money - a makey uppey 130m bid now or 100m next summer is little difference in the scheme of things (imagine saying that a year ago!)

Shanotheslayer

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Coutinho, world cup winner will move should he still want to for 100m easily. Even if he just has a good tournament on a personal level he'll still go for stupid money. It's not as if Liverpool are desperate for the money - a makey uppey 130m bid now or 100m next summer is little difference in the scheme of things (imagine saying that a year ago!)

Are you referring Coutinho as a world cup winner? Or am I missing something?

Edit: Referring to the U20 World Cup, how cringy.

Fromvert

I think he's predicting that Brazil win it next year since in the next sentence he refers to him having a good tournament.

yabadabado

I presume he meant potential world cup winner.

No way anyone is using U20 WC

tastyt

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Meh...Mahrez. 110 million to keep Coutinho for another season is less riskier than paying half that to depend on Mahrez. It's not as if Liverpool can't afford a decent centre back w/o having to sell PC .

Meh mahrez??

Thats the guy who drove Leicester to the league title, something coutinho will never do for Liverpool.

Mahrez has done a lot more in the premier league than coutinho and getting him at half the price would be great business for Liverpool

Harry Palmr

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Are you referring Coutinho as a world cup winner? Or am I missing something?

Edit: Referring to the U20 World Cup, how cringy.

I was obviously prognosticating (do I need to url link that to a dictionary definition).

Arghus

Obviously.

yabadabado

Harry Palmr wrote: »

I was obviously prognosticating (do I need to url link that to a dictionary definition).

Meow

The Talking Bread

tastyt wrote: »

Meh mahrez??

Thats the guy who drove Leicester to the league title, something coutinho will never do for Liverpool.

Mahrez has done a lot more in the premier league than coutinho and getting him at half the price would be great business for Liverpool

Meh Mahrez isn't devaluing Mahrez. Meh Mahrez is the notion of selling on PC and buying Mahrez to consolidate that loss.

Coutinhno is a much better player than Mahrez and I couldn't be any less a Pool fan if I tried.


Pay half the price but your chances of making top 4 will reflect the difference.
Pool would be have far better prospects with PC than Mahrez.
What's the point saving some money and then losing out on more by not getting top 4/progressing in CL.

Thats the logic.

What is your point about "he's done a lot more" ? Is it because he won the league or do you think he has been an overall better player than PC in general over the last few seasons?
Or going forward he will be?


Obviously it's better "business", in the present financial sense, but may not be a better long term business as Mahrez is a downgrade from PC, league title medal or not

Harry Palmr

Arghus wrote: »

Obviously.

Yes obviously only a mormon would have thought otherwise.

At least I know where the starting point for Dom Solanke's transfer to Barca is!

tastyt

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Meh Mahrez isn't devaluing Mahrez. Meh Mahrez is the notion of selling on PC and buying Mahrez to consolidate that loss.

Coutinhno is a much better player than Mahrez and I couldn't be any less a Pool fan if I tried.


Pay half the price but your chances of making top 4 will reflect the difference.
Pool would be have far better prospects with PC than Mahrez.
What's the point saving some money and then losing out on more by not getting top 4/progressing in CL.

Thats the logic.

What is your point about "he's done a lot more" ? Is it because he won the league or do you think he has been an overall better player than PC in general over the last few seasons?
Or going forward he will be?

I just wouldn't be so sure that coutinho is a much better player. If mahrez was Brazilian people might think different of him.

And the fact that he has won the league, and player of the year certainly gives him the right to be put in the same bracket as coutinho. I also think that with a top team he could really kick on.

I do think in comparison to what coutinho has done for Liverpool, mahrez has done more for Leicester.

One thing I will say for him too, while sigurdson, alexis, and coutinho have sat it out and picked up convenient injuries trying to force their way out of their clubs mahrez has put his head down and worked hard and that shows a serious character

pjohnson

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Yes obviously only a mormon would have thought otherwise.

At least I know where the starting point for Dom Solanke's transfer to Barca is!

Billy86

Would the Premier League allow magical underpants though?

irishman86

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

I'd say you've milk bottle glasses the way you comment on players. Jesse flipping Lingard.

:rolleyes:

irishman86

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Are you referring Coutinho as a world cup winner? Or am I missing something?

Edit: Referring to the U20 World Cup, how cringy.

I guessed he was saying next summer if Brazil were to win and Coutinho played decent. Everything he said in that context is correct

irishman86

tastyt wrote: »

I just wouldn't be so sure that coutinho is a much better player. If mahrez was Brazilian people might think different of him.

And the fact that he has won the league, and player of the year certainly gives him the right to be put in the same bracket as coutinho. I also think that with a top team he could really kick on.

I do think in comparison to what coutinho has done for Liverpool, mahrez has done more for Leicester.

One thing I will say for him too, while sigurdson, alexis, and coutinho have sat it out and picked up convenient injuries trying to force their way out of their clubs mahrez has put his head down and worked hard and that shows a serious character

People seem to ignore his player of the year and i cant understand why
Like you said a move to a bigger club could be perfect for him
You point about if he was Brazilian is 100% correct a reason Coutinho rated like he is
I dont think Liverpool should replace Coutinho with Mahrez though, Coutinho this season was ear marked for midfield hence why they signed Salah(where Mahrez plays)
So while Mahrez isnt a step down like people say hes not the correct signing in this case

The Talking Bread

tastyt wrote: »

I just wouldn't be so sure that coutinho is a much better player. If mahrez was Brazilian people might think different of him.

And the fact that he has won the league, and player of the year certainly gives him the right to be put in the same bracket as coutinho. I also think that with a top team he could really kick on.

I do think in comparison to what coutinho has done for Liverpool, mahrez has done more for Leicester.

One thing I will say for him too, while sigurdson, alexis, and coutinho have sat it out and picked up convenient injuries trying to force their way out of their clubs mahrez has put his head down and worked hard and that shows a serious character

He didn't knuckle down that much 3/4 of last season if you want to go there.

Are you suggesting PC is feigning injury to the extent he won't play?

irishman86

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Are you suggesting PC is feigning injury to the extent he won't play?

Do you think hes not ?
I think its clear thats what hes doing
September the first he will magically heal himself

JPA

I don't understand why Arsenal aren't writing a cheque for Mahrez, in fact no PL team are in for him.

The Talking Bread

irishman86 wrote: »

People seem to ignore his player of the year and i cant understand why
Like you said a move to a bigger club could be perfect for him
You point about if he was Brazilian is 100% correct a reason Coutinho rated like he is
I dont think Liverpool should replace Coutinho with Mahrez though, Coutinho this season was ear marked for midfield hence why they signed Salah(where Mahrez plays)
So while Mahrez isnt a step down like people say hes not the correct signing in this case

No one is ignoring his POTY. I'm simply talking about the fact it's clear to vast majority of fans PC is a better option and could be the difference between pool getting 4th and not whereas I, personally, don't think looking at it in present terms Mahrez would be a viable alternative to do so.

This season, with Chelsea, City, Utd, Spurs and Arsenal all about and Liverpool already looking like the outsiders of those 6 (with possible exception of Arsenal) Liverpool cannot afford even slight downgrades if they want to compete, especially considering they have f*ck all business done already and imo, POTY and medal around his neck, Mahrez is a downgrade and that could be the difference between 4th and 5th and 6th.

Why not go in for Mahrez and keep PC? It could be a huge increase in team quality. There is money in the bank at Anfield.

Not qualifying for Champ League has a knock on effect and once you drop out one season it could be 2 or 3 seasons before you get back in.

irishman86

The Talking Bread wrote: »

No one is ignoring his POTY. I'm simply talking about the fact it's clear to vast majority of fans PC is a better option and could be the difference between pool getting 4th and not whereas I, personally, don't think looking at it in present terms Mahrez would be a viable alternative to do so.

This season, with Chelsea, City, Utd, Spurs and Arsenal all about and Liverpool already looking like the outsiders of those 6 (with possible exception of Arsenal) Liverpool cannot afford even slight downgrades if they want to compete, especially considering they have f*ck all business done already and imo, POTY and medal around his neck, Mahrez is a downgrade and that could be the difference between 4th and 5th and 6th.

Why not go in for Mahrez and keep PC? It could be a huge increase in team quality. There is money in the bank at Anfield.

Not qualifying for Champ League has a knock on effect and once you drop out one season it could be 2 or 3 seasons before you get back in.

I agree PC is a better option purely based on the fact he can play in a midfield 3 which Mahrez a winger cant do
Mahrez wouldnt be a downgrade in talent though, its more where he plays the same position as there best player in Salah
Ive said they should keep Coutinho and yes they should go for Mahrez for competition
I think we agree on everything besides Mahrez/Coutinho ability
I think Mahrez is a better player but Coutinho is the better player for Liverpool
Although i feel a competent defender would be more vital than both :pac:

retalivity

Spurs sign Sanchez......from ajax,
Also sign Gazza.....niga from soton,
And also give Kyle walker-peters a new contract, who happens to be the new Kyle Walker

Deise Vu

retalivity wrote: »

Spurs sign Sanchez......from ajax,
Also sign Gazza.....niga from soton,
And also give Kyle walker-peters a new contract, who happens to be the new Kyle Walker

But, but this is outrageous! Young players signed on reasonable wages for a long term. Why haven't they spent £80M on a player? Why won't they give subs £150K a week? This is unsustainable and unambitious. It just won't work!

Signed,
A. Conte.
J Special One
Eamonn Dunphy

Quazzie

Deise Vu wrote: »

But, but this is outrageous! Young players signed on reasonable wages for a long term. Why haven't they spent £80M on a player? Why won't they give subs £150K a week? This is unsustainable and unambitious. It just won't work!

Signed,
A. Conte.
J Special One
Eamonn Dunphy

I think the major gripe is that it doesn't fill any trophy cabinets.

Gabriel Paulista came to Arsenal for two years and won more trophies than Tottenham in the last 25yrs then left

pjohnson

Deise Vu wrote: »

But, but this is outrageous! Young players signed on reasonable wages for a long term. Why haven't they spent £80M on a player? Why won't they give subs £150K a week? This is unsustainable and unambitious. It just won't work!

Signed,
A. Conte.
J Special One
Eamonn Dunphy

Yes I'm sure Conte and Jose are envious of the success Spurs have had.

Deise Vu

Quazzie wrote: »

I think the major gripe is that it doesn't fill any trophy cabinets.

For the life of me I cannot fathom how people don't understand that there are two leagues: One where sugar daddy will underwrite any losses and the other where short-termism could kill the club (Leeds, Bolton, Rangers etc). I can understand Conte and Jose having a go, given the pressure they are under, but Dunphy?

Harry Palmr

Seri transfer to Barca fell through.

Quazzie

Deise Vu wrote: »

For the life of me I cannot fathom how people don't understand that there are two leagues: One where sugar daddy will underwrite any losses and the other where short-termism could kill the club (Leeds, Bolton, Rangers etc). I can understand Conte and Jose having a go, given the pressure they are under, but Dunphy?

Only one of the leagues gives trophies, and that's all that matters.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Seri transfer to Barca fell through.

But.....but....but they have the press conference booked to announce the signing:eek:

greendom

what a horrible window for Barcelona. Wonder if they can turn it around in the last week? They need to. They look miles behind Real atm.

pjohnson

Just one week to go now. Unlikely any more major moves will go on. Weekends are always quiet with League matches taking priority.

PerrinV2

Aren't Barca supposedly close to signing Do Maria for 50m?

greendom

PerrinV2 wrote: »

Aren't Barca supposedly close to signing Do Maria for 50m?

could be one of a few players leaving PSG, especially if they sign Mbappe

Buford T. Justice XIX

https://twitter.com/anfieldhq/status/900500020646092801

Barcelona are to up their interest in Chelsea's Willian - good news for Liverpool. (@TimesSport)