Ireland Team Talk/Gossip/Rumour Thread VIII - ** MOD NOTE POST #4781 **

irishbucsfan

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Stheno

irishbucsfan wrote: »

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molloyjh

vienne86 wrote: »

Anyone else trying to renew their Irish Rugby supporters club membership? Website is rubbish, and I can't log in with Chrome......got there eventually with Explorer.....which I haven't used for years.

You're still a member!? I gave that up years ago after being a member for over a decade and being rewarded with a crap scarf, a childs sized hat and early access to the worst seats in the Aviva. "Thanks for your support sir, but we're not giving you dick all for it".

thomond2006

molloyjh wrote: »

You're still a member!? I gave that up years ago after being a member for over a decade and being rewarded with a crap scarf, a childs sized hat and early access to the worst seats in the Aviva. "Thanks for your support sir, but we're not giving you dick all for it".

Total money racket.

Burkie1203

Liam toland article in IT is worth a read. Cant link to it but its on IT facebook page anyway

Burkie1203

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Liam toland article in IT is worth a read. Cant link to it but its on IT facebook page anyway

The editing in the IT sports section is going down the tubes.

that could have given Adam Byrne an opening for a try against South Africa

1eg0a3xv7b82of

i read the bod says rules should only be bent for furlong, sexton and murray.
that is the nonsense that will keep those three but lose the other 12.
creating an atmosphere in the ireland squad of the haves and the have nots, will only lead to envy and bitterness that will flow right through irish rugby.

the most important question in light of the zebo affair is,
should only players contracted up until the world cup play in the coming 6 nations?
true they have not signed for a foreign club but they have not committed to ireland either.
if the answer is yes why not allow zebo to play?
i often hear that schmidt thinks the world cup is small fry, its the 6 nations that we need to perform in. by that logic zebo should be picked to ensure we do just that in 2018. Then he can be sent to coventry.

the zebo affair, as i call it, has the potential to end schmidts reign. if more players leave and some are selected and others not schmidt will for the first time in his irish career come under real and intense scrutiny. the irfu board will feel the heat too, to add to some bizarre facts about the world cup bid.
sexton being allowed to go to paris and continue to be picked is the worst decision schmidt and the irfu ever made and will come back to haunt all involved except sexton who is blameless.

count dookoo disagreeing with something to do with the national team. I am just so so surprised.

You know BOD doesn't speak for Schmidt or the IRFU and has absolutely nothing to do with the administration of Irish rugby or selection for the Irish national team, right?

the zebo affair, as i call it, has the potential to end schmidts reign.

Bahahahahaha. Good one.

aloooof

Marina Old-fashioned Locket wrote: »

i often hear that schmidt thinks the world cup is small fry, its the 6 nations that we need to perform in.

From who?

Madelynn Glamorous Range

Madelynn Glamorous Range wrote: »

Bahahahahaha. Good one.

Quotes, but I reckon Joe could have an actual affair with Zebo and they still wouldn't even consider replacing him.

accensi0n

Marina Old-fashioned Locket wrote: »

i read the bod says rules should only be bent for furlong, sexton and murray.
that is the nonsense that will keep those three but lose the other 12.
creating an atmosphere in the ireland squad of the haves and the have nots, will only lead to envy and bitterness that will flow right through irish rugby.

the most important question in light of the zebo affair is,
should only players contracted up until the world cup play in the coming 6 nations?
true they have not signed for a foreign club but they have not committed to ireland either.
if the answer is yes why not allow zebo to play?
i often hear that schmidt thinks the world cup is small fry, its the 6 nations that we need to perform in. by that logic zebo should be picked to ensure we do just that in 2018. Then he can be sent to coventry.

the zebo affair, as i call it, has the potential to end schmidts reign. if more players leave and some are selected and others not schmidt will for the first time in his irish career come under real and intense scrutiny. the irfu board will feel the heat too, to add to some bizarre facts about the world cup bid.
sexton being allowed to go to paris and continue to be picked is the worst decision schmidt and the irfu ever made and will come back to haunt all involved except sexton who is blameless.

molloyjh

Is there anything to be gained from this conversation?

aloooof

molloyjh wrote: »

Is there anything to be gained from this conversation?

I'm gaining a headache, if that counts?

Teferi

molloyjh wrote: »

Is there anything to be gained from this conversation?

Yeah but I want to know what you think of Rob Kearney?

molloyjh

Teferi wrote: »

Yeah but I want to know what you think of Rob Kearney?

He's a total dish. Obvs. But he's no Jordan Larmour.

CIARAN_BOYLE

Marina Old-fashioned Locket wrote: »

sexton being allowed to go to paris and continue to be picked is the worst decision schmidt and the irfu ever made and will come back to haunt all involved except sexton who is blameless.

In fairness to Schmidt the decision predated him and was made by Kidney and the IRFU board that made firm commitments that if Sexton ensured he was available for all camps he would be considered on the same basis as an Irish based player. Schmidt came in inheriting that agreement and it would have been unfair to change the rules after the fact.

Especially since Johnny was on a lower salary in Racing than he would have been if he didn't include the clause that he would be available.

prawnsambo

Count Dookoo is George Hook and I claim my free Eamon Dunphy pyjamas.

prawnsambo

prawnsambo wrote: »

Count Dookoo is George Hook and I claim my free Eamon Dunphy pyjamas.

Not a bad shout. The IT had a quite amazing quote from Hook in an article the other day, only last year he claimed Schmidt may be the worst coach/selector in Irish history.

Podge_irl

Madelynn Glamorous Range wrote: »

Not a bad shout. The IT had a quite amazing quote from Hook in an article the other day, only last year he claimed Schmidt may be the worst coach/selector in Irish history.

Sure he managed to lose the Leinster dressing room after only 4 games in charge. He must be an awful coach altogether.

Hook does not like Schmidt at all but for hilariously graceless reasons.

Hook got things very wrong on Schmidt twice - the 4 match dressing room thing and the sending a team out to lose against South Africa thing.

He got lambasted for both of these opinions and rather than accepting that he was miles wide of the mark, he instead decided to have a massive chip on his shoulder regarding Schmidt moving forward.

Schmidt has probably barely ever spoken to the guy, but Hooks disdain couldn't be more evident. The absolute massive child that he is.

On a more sombre note, Hook attacks cyclists on national TV *again* and calls them nazi's and within a week we've two more dead cyclists on the side of the road. I wonder has he lost any sleep over that.

Well it's classic Hook isn't it, he just doubles down on everything. Mercifully we're not subjected to his nonsense via any medium at the moment.

Christy42

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Hook does not like Schmidt at all but for hilariously graceless reasons.

Hook got things very wrong on Schmidt twice - the 4 match dressing room thing and the sending a team out to lose against South Africa thing.

He got lambasted for both of these opinions and rather than accepting that he was miles wide of the mark, he instead decided to have a massive chip on his shoulder regarding Schmidt moving forward.

Schmidt has probably barely ever spoken to the guy, but Hooks disdain couldn't be more evident. The absolute massive child that he is.

On a more sombre note, Hook attacks cyclists on national TV *again* and calls them nazi's and within a week we've two more dead cyclists on the side of the road. I wonder has he lost any sleep over that.

I would be shocked if those were the only things Hook got wrong. I also remember him advocating BOD switch to flanker. Don't think anyone even bothered debating him on it they just laughed.

Christy42

Christy42 wrote: »

I would be shocked if those were the only things Hook got wrong.

Far from it, but they are the two big ones where his co pundits and others really went after him.

He had the same vendetta against Sexton. He once vehemently went to bat for ROG in a game that Sexton ended up getting man of the match for. Few years later he tries to sue Sexton.

Anyway, not gonna waste more thread space on him. His legacy will be well defined at this stage and he won't be remembered kindly.

arsebiscuits1

When Schmidt had a go at Hook after the "second rate foreign players" comment, it was glorious.

He showed Hook to be the total joke that he is

arsebiscuits1

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

When Schmidt had a go at Hook after the "second rate foreign players" comment, it was glorious.

He showed Hook to be the total joke that he is

What was this now?

Madelynn Glamorous Range

Madelynn Glamorous Range wrote: »

What was this now?

Hook had a particularly uncalled for go at Payne after a game against Wales and Schmidt at the time said it was disappointing to hear some of the criticisms of Payne but that sometimes you have people commenting from an entertainment perspective instead of actually watching the rugby and analysing that.

Former Former

Madelynn Glamorous Range wrote: »

What was this now?

Hook had a go at Schmidt for picking "second-rate foreign players" (Payne) and Schmidt called him out on it. Not sure it was glorious tbh.

(also, for those who thought only Aki got stick, see above)

1eg0a3xv7b82of

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

In fairness to Schmidt the decision predated him and was made by Kidney and the IRFU board that made firm commitments that if Sexton ensured he was available for all camps he would be considered on the same basis as an Irish based player. Schmidt came in inheriting that agreement and it would have been unfair to change the rules after the fact.

Especially since Johnny was on a lower salary in Racing than he would have been if he didn't include the clause that he would be available.

who took the decision on zebo -the irfu or schmidt?
i think it will be interesting to see what the decision maker would do if murray or furlong left.
i think we would call it a serious ethical conundrum.

racing would have negotiated sextons contract not a bother if he was excluded from ireland, jesus the guy would probably be still there cashing it in.

bilston

RTE have retained the rights to Ireland's Autumn Internationals for the next 4 years.

I presume these are Irish rights. So from a NI POV we shall wait and see if the UK rights stay with Sky. If Sky don't retain these rights it might give an indication to their thinking on the Pro 14.

1eg0a3xv7b82of

Deleted User wrote: »

Quotes, but I reckon Joe could have an actual affair with Zebo and they still wouldn't even consider replacing him.

is the above a Freudian slip, doth protest too much me thinks.

Dog Botherer

Marina Old-fashioned Locket wrote: »

Deleted User wrote: »

Quotes, but I reckon Joe could have an actual affair with Zebo and they still wouldn't even consider replacing him.

is the above a Freudian slip, doth protest too much me thinks.

Is this your first interaction with Venjur or what

Marina Old-fashioned Locket

Marina Old-fashioned Locket wrote: »

is the above a Freudian slip, doth protest too much me thinks.

Maybe, maybe my favourite post ever on boards.

1eg0a3xv7b82of

Dog Botherer wrote: »

Is this your first interaction with Venjur or what

what you mean by that?

Marina Old-fashioned Locket

Marina Old-fashioned Locket wrote: »

what you mean by that?

Give us a roide love

MJohnston

Former Former wrote: »

Hook had a go at Schmidt for picking "second-rate foreign players" (Payne) and Schmidt called him out on it. Not sure it was glorious tbh.

(also, for those who thought only Aki got stick, see above)

I could have sworn that was METT Willams, but there's enough hot air in the world for it to have been both of them I suppose.

1eg0a3xv7b82of

george hook and mattie williams are very good rugby men. they have achieved more in rugby then anyone on here.
lets show some respect.

Clegg

Marina Old-fashioned Locket wrote: »

george hook and mattie williams are very good rugby men. they have achieved more in rugby then anyone on here.
lets show some respect.

There's still a group of Scottish fans who will forever hate Williams for dumping Chris Patterson from 10 in favour of 2nd rate Dan Parks. Williams got so much wrong with Scotland.

Former Former

MJohnston wrote: »

I could have sworn that was METT Willams, but there's enough hot air in the world for it to have been both of them I suppose.

Matt Williams expressed concern that Payne wasn't offering enough in attack during the RWC. It was nothing to do with his nationality.

Hook was just on a rant. He made that "second rate" comment a week before we won the 6N btw.

D14Rugby

Marina Old-fashioned Locket wrote: »

george hook and mattie williams are very good rugby men. they have achieved more in rugby then anyone on here.
lets show some respect.

Likes George Hook. Sums it up really. Nevermind on here but nobody in professional rugby take that man seriously and i know that for a fact.

tooManyChoices

D14Rugby wrote: »

Likes George Hook. Sums it up really. Nevermind on here but nobody in professional rugby take that man seriously and i know that for a fact.

and just think, he knows more about rugby than he does anything else...

MJohnston

Marina Old-fashioned Locket wrote: »

george hook and mattie williams are very good rugby men. they have achieved more in rugby then anyone on here.
lets show some respect.

Hook will get no respect from me, he's burned any reputation he might once have had with his non-rugby comments, and even within rugby he retired from "analysis" about 15 years too late.

1eg0a3xv7b82of

george hook was the inspiration for eddie o sullivan and the majority of the early pros. we owe the slam to hook.
FACT.

mfceiling

Marina Old-fashioned Locket wrote: »

george hook was the inspiration for eddie o sullivan and the majority of the early pros. we owe the slam to hook.
FACT.

Yeah putting "FACT" after a sentence doesn't make it true.

1eg0a3xv7b82of

mfceiling wrote: »

Yeah putting "FACT" after a sentence doesn't make it true.

you should have put FACT at the end of the above if you wanted what you posted to be true.

Former Former

mfceiling wrote: »

Yeah putting "FACT" after a sentence doesn't make it true.

Yes it does.

FACT

mfceiling

Marina Old-fashioned Locket wrote: »

you should have put FACT at the end of the above if you wanted what you posted to be true.

Do you say it at the end of every sentence as well?

"I'm just heading out to the shop to get milk"..."FACT"

1eg0a3xv7b82of

MJohnston wrote: »

Hook will get no respect from me, he's burned any reputation he might once have had with his non-rugby comments, and even within rugby he retired from "analysis" about 15 years too late.

watching the rugby this autumn on rte was so nice without the chainsaw in situ.
even brent has upped his game, the serious question is did hook ever have anything worth listening to say, i am not so sure.

1eg0a3xv7b82of

mfceiling wrote: »

Do you say it at the end of every sentence as well?

"I'm just heading out to the shop to get milk"..."FACT"

sometimes i use deal with it or boom.

mfceiling

Marina Old-fashioned Locket wrote: »

the serious question is did hook ever have anything worth listening to say, i am not so sure.

"george hook and mattie williams are very good rugby men. they have achieved more in rugby then anyone on here"

MJohnston

Marina Old-fashioned Locket wrote: »

george hook was the inspiration for eddie o sullivan and the majority of the early pros. we owe the slam to hook.
FACT.

I'm sure he's still an inspiration for many. The same way as Homer Simpson is an inspiration for parenting.