How would you react if you accidentally found illegal porn on a friends computer?

Sam Kade

PucaMama wrote: »

That bacon was bred to be eaten. Not had sex with. Don't even TRY to compare eating meat to sexually abusing an animal. Animals can feel fear and pain too.

What about Leo getting raped by a bear in the revenant?

Purple Mountain

GarIT wrote: »

PucaMama wrote: »

What have they banned in the uk

Spanking, whipping, name calling, physical restraint, pee, oral where the person receiving oral is on top, female ejaculation, choking and fisting.

So it's OK in the UK to see a man's juice but not a woman's?!

mordeith

Purple Mountain wrote: »

So it's OK in the UK to see a man's juice but not a woman's?!

Have they actually banned types of porn? I though they just now required all porn sites to have age verification?

BoatMad

allthedoyles wrote: »

You make statement you end up in court with your friend . Maybe someone else accessed his computer.
Report him and you are been judge and jury right now.

personally I would be inclined to do this. even if against my better judgement, unless its very clearly very illegal, you could end up begin dragged into the case ( he claims you placed it there etc )

do you want this hassle in your life.

remember no good deed goes unpunished

biko

Lol, there are a lot of people lying in this thread.
Beating someone up because you found rape porn on their computer? Please, you wouldn't even have the guts to beat him up if he committed an actual rape.

Permabear

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Princess Consuela Bananahammock

mordeith wrote: »

Have they actually banned types of porn? I though they just now required all porn sites to have age verification?

Yes, although it depends on where you got it and whether you own it or streamed it.

Other acts banned included spanking beyond a gentle level, full bondage and restraint (in conjunction with a gag and all four limbs restrained) and - bizarrely - female ejaculation.

Abusive language during sex is now also banned, alongside depictions of non-consensual sex.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/uk-porn-legislation-what-is-now-banned-under-new-government-laws-9898541.html

dinorebel

PucaMama wrote: »

WE don't slaughter animals with just a slit throat.

Halal

Alizrian Crimson

If child abuse then I'm going to the cops and the friendship is over.

Pedos sicken me.

childsplay

BoatMad wrote:

personally I would be inclined to do this. even if against my better judgement, unless its very clearly very illegal, you could end up begin dragged into the case ( he claims you placed it there etc )

That which is to give light must endure burning. Viktor Frankl.

If you know a crime has possibly been committed and you don't report it then you are as guilty as the friend with the illegal images and those that produced them. Especially where child pornography is concerned.

gerrybbadd

This goes above friendship, and accidental finding or not, I would report it to the guards.

Is this really someone you would even want to be friends with, knowing what you now know?

jobbridge4life

I think it is worth restating that I am pretty sure you are obliged to inform the authorities if you become aware that an adult may in a position to endanger a child.

southstar

jobbridge4life wrote: »

I literally can't believe that someone is trying to say that raping a child is not worse than raping a animal.

I'd be ashamed to say such a thing.

I'd say you've way too much time on your hands...being appalled and the like.

jobbridge4life

southstar wrote: »

I'd say you've way too much time on your hands...being appalled and the like.

Bizarrely it doesn't take me more than two seconds to work out that raping a child is the infinitely worse crime?

How long did it take you hon?

Zulu

Anything to do with children, I'd report instantly to AGS.
I'd imagine most other things I'd probably just have an opinion change of the person - but it's completely subjective. I don't even know what else is "illegal". Torture/snuff movies is it? How would you know they are real?

PucaMama

dinorebel wrote: »

PucaMama wrote: »

WE don't slaughter animals with just a slit throat.

Halal

Which is why I said WE. Halal is not an Irish thing.

PucaMama

BoatMad wrote: »

allthedoyles wrote: »

You make statement you end up in court with your friend . Maybe someone else accessed his computer.
Report him and you are been judge and jury right now.

personally I would be inclined to do this. even if against my better judgement, unless its very clearly very illegal, you could end up begin dragged into the case ( he claims you placed it there etc )

do you want this hassle in your life.

remember no good deed goes unpunished

How could they possibly say you put it there?? It's all time stamped etc

fxotoole

PucaMama wrote: »

Which is why I said WE. Halal is not an Irish thing.

Halal meat is sold in many kebab shops and ethnic stores in Ireland.

PucaMama

fxotoole wrote: »

PucaMama wrote: »

Which is why I said WE. Halal is not an Irish thing.

Halal meat is sold in many kebab shops and ethnic stores in Ireland.

How many halal shops were here 10, 20, 30 years ago? Halal is not an Irish thing.

badabing106

jeanjolie wrote: »

Asked women and they said they would report it immediately and stop being friends with the guy/girl and even disown a family member.

Would this be the same for you? Would you react in a more aggressive manner?

Just to note, illegal in terms of what's considered highly immoral in society; animal, actual rape, child porn etc.

I'd probably talk to the person first and
Seek clarity,considering he is your friend and not some random stranger, rather than impulsively phoning the guards without bothering to talk to the person. Maybe your "friend" is innocent!

jobbridge4life

PucaMama wrote: »

Which is why I said WE. Halal is not an Irish thing.

Many meat factories/slaughter houses (yes they are called that) operate, and have do so for years, on a halal basis in Ireland.

Zulu

badabing106 wrote: »

I'd probably talk to the person first and
Seek clarity,considering he is your friend and not some random stranger, rather than impulsively phoning the guards without bothering to talk to the person. Maybe your "friend" is innocent!

Of accidentally downloading child porn? No. That does not happen.

PucaMama

jobbridge4life wrote: »

PucaMama wrote: »

Which is why I said WE. Halal is not an Irish thing.

Many meat factories/slaughter houses (yes they are called that) operate, and have do so for years, on a halal basis in Ireland.

Of course they are slaughter houses?! That's their name. Anyway my point still is halal is not an Irish tradition.

anitaca

Zulu wrote: »

Of accidentally downloading child porn? No. That does not happen.

But ransomware involving child porn does. https://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/scam-alert-new-ransomware-puts-child-pornography-on-victims-smartphones-010615.html

the way anti viruses work these days it is quite possible that the images would be loaded before the ransomware was caught by the anti virus. so you would see the images but not the ransom message.

Zulu

anitaca wrote: »

But ransomware involving child porn does. https://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/scam-alert-new-ransomware-puts-child-pornography-on-victims-smartphones-010615.html

the way anti viruses work these days it is quite possible that the images would be loaded before the ransomware was caught by the anti virus. so you would see the images but not the ransom message.

Honestly, I'd take the risk and let the guards sort it out.

grogi

jeanjolie wrote: »

illegal in terms of what's considered highly immoral in society; animal, actual rape, child porn etc.

That's not porn - that's crime. A very serious one - nothing really to ask about.

grogi

GarIT wrote: »

In the UK lately, all sorts of porn has been made illegal and there's no way I'd report any of that.

Seriously?!

GarIT wrote: »

Spanking, whipping, name calling, physical restraint, pee, oral where the person receiving oral is on top, female ejaculation, choking and fisting.

I see where this is coming from - but that is just... weird?!

Amirani

PucaMama wrote: »

How many halal shops were here 10, 20, 30 years ago? Halal is not an Irish thing.

This is completely illogical. How long does an activity have to be practiced by Irish people/in Ireland to qualify as being Irish?

I agree with the points above - sexual abuse of a child is far worse than sexual abuse of an animal. Same way as murder, kidnapping, rape, torture or any other crime against a human is deemed far worse than doing the equivalent to an animal - and this is evidenced by the very different legal treatment of each.

I'm not entirely sure what my reaction would be to either, depends on the person and the exact situation, but more than likely it would be to report to the Guards.

Wibbs

Amirani wrote: »

This is completely illogical. How long does an activity have to be practiced by Irish people/in Ireland to qualify as being Irish?

More than a couple of decades anyway. Halal is not an Irish tradition. To claim otherwise is more than a bit daft. Kosher is an Irish tradition as Jews have been in Ireland from the late medieval.

and this is evidenced by the very different legal treatment of each.

Laws change as does morality. In some cultures killing a valued horse was punishable by death, but killing a homosexual human was a far lesser crime, even encouraged. Not just past tense either. Personally while I would see legality as some yardstick, I would keep my own informed counsel as far as morality goes. Though I do see your point A.

I'm not entirely sure what my reaction would be to either, depends on the person and the exact situation, but more than likely it would be to report to the Guards.

I know mine, as I have real world experience of similar. In the course of helping to fix a problem, I found hidden files on someone's computer. Not a friend, but I did know them, enough that they asked for my help. Hidden files that are best served by forgetting, never mind describing. Suffice to say naked children and that's being nice. And I reported him and dropped his computer to the Guards. Who couldn't have been more proactive and helpful, indeed grateful I'd reported the bastard and kept me informed throughout. He got sent down for a few years in the end. Not for long enough in my estimation. Someone who had been a friend, or more a good acquaintance in my teens I found out later had got caught with similar and was also sent away for a few years. I made him a non person in my life. Excommunicatus.

Galwayguy35

I used to work with a fella in my last job over 10 years ago who seemed to be a nice guy to chat to, turns out he was caught with child porn on his laptop.

It was a big shock to me because I had an image at the time of a paedo as being some oddball who stood out as a weirdo.

jeanjolie

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

I used to work with a fella in my last job over 10 years ago who seemed to be a nice guy to chat to, turns out he was caught with child porn on his laptop.

It was a big shock to me because I had an image at the time of a paedo as being some oddball who stood out as a weirdo.

How was he caught?

Dravokivich

For me Porn is a Sexuality thing and is a matter of taste and consent. Where there's no means of consent I find it highly disagreeable, so would have no interest in Rape, But i understand that there is a Rape Play thing that goes on too. So while it could be depicted, it doesn't have to mean the people involved, or who enjoy it would consider going through with rape. Beastiality is something I consider bewildering and not something I'd support.

jeanjolie wrote: »

Asked women and they said they would report it immediately and stop being friends with the guy/girl and even disown a family member.

Would this be the same for you? Would you react in a more aggressive manner?

Just to note, illegal in terms of what's considered highly immoral
in society; animal, actual rape, child porn etc.

You seem to be expecting men to have a different opinion on the subject. What leads you to that?

"Illegal" and "Immoral" are 2 different things OP.

For reference, anything involving Children you are legally obligated to report it now, or if found to be aware of it you can be implicated in it. I don't think there's even much scope to debate on that.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

jeanjolie wrote: »

How was he caught?

Always wondered about this - always seems to be carelessness on the part of the offender (which is bizarre: who the hell leaves this kinda thing on an open, unincrypted harddrive?!) never a proactive police action (which, i know, is either a privacy debate or very much a needle-in-a-haystack hunt).

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Also: just to steer this away from the obvious in 'illegal porn": what would you if content was adult and consentual at the time, but the friend in question had been using it as revenge-porn?

Dravokivich

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Also: just to steer this away from the obvious in 'illegal porn": what would you if content was adult and consentual at the time, but the friend in question had been using it as revenge-porn?

I believe consent to produce and consent to distribute are 2 individual things. Someone should not have it put as their own fault for being in a video in the first place.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Dravokivich wrote: »

I believe consent to produce and consent to distribute are 2 individual things. should not have it put as their own fault for being in a video in the first place.

With revenge porn, there is generally no consent to distribute.

Dravokivich

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

With revenge porn, there is generally no consent to distribute.

I get that and I believe it's illegal to distribute without said consent. I was just merely saying anyone who's had such material shared without their consent shouldn't be put down for being in it in the first place. They should be distinguished as 2 separate entities.

Permabear

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Zulu

Permabear wrote: »

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Speaking of my own context, my "friends" are well above the age anyone would consider a child.

blue note

I seem to be in the minority here, but it would depend on the context really. It would potentially be a life ruining accusation. So if I found a folder of images which were clearly of children I'd have no choice. But if I found one image in a folder of otherwise normal porn I wouldn't be running to the authorities. It may have been downloaded accidentally while downloading normal stuff. Or if it was a single image it could have been sent to him or there could be some sort of explanation. If it was a case like that, the accusation could be catastrophic for him. If I was happy it was a genuine accident that it ended up on his computer I probably wouldn't report. I might say it to him though to see his reaction.

Galwayguy35

jeanjolie wrote: »

How was he caught?

I don't know, never heard how he got nicked.

granturismo

jeanjolie wrote: »

How was he caught?

I had a quick look through the thread and I havent seen any post detailing how you would react. You started the thread so it would be appropriate to give your view.

I'd report.

jeanjolie

granturismo wrote: »

I had a quick look through the thread and I havent seen any post detailing how you would react. You started the thread so it would be appropriate to give your view.

I'd report.

Depends. I would assess my knowledge of their psychiatric/personal issues and the type of lifestyle the lead to determine whether to report them.

If they were a normal guy/girl who works a good job, has no issues and we're close friends then no. I would however strongly advise them about the criminal penalties of posessing that type of porn and not to download it in my house or save it on any of my removable media devices.

As long as they're not operating a ring or molesting any children then...what's the harm? Seriously. I know that sounds absolutely mad to some people but rather someone get off to images than the real thing.

sbsquarepants

Wibbs wrote: »

Illegal, like stuff involving children? Ring up the local Garda station and report them. Disowning them would go without saying for me.

I don't care who you are, my friend, my brother, my missus ffs - if I catch you looking at child porn I'm kicking the living shít out of you and reporting you to the cops.

As for anything going on between consenting adults - that's none of my business whatsoever. The list of "illegal" stuff in the UK is ridiculous.
Squirting is against the law - ffs that has got to be one of the most retarded things I've ever heard. Or oral is ok - but only in certain positions, you couldn't make this shít up!!

sbsquarepants

jeanjolie wrote: »

As long as they're not operating a ring or molesting any children then...what's the harm? Seriously. I know that sounds absolutely mad to some people but rather someone get off to images than the real thing.

To quote the great John McEnroe - you can not be serious.

I can't even wrap my head around what you've just said there. What is the harm in someone **** while watching a video of a kid being raped?

What is the harm?

You do know that the images are of the real thing - those aren't CGI kids

Not_A_Racist

What about movies that depict crimes?

Murders are shown all day long, as is torture. Rape is less common to be depicted but it isn't unheard of either.

Is it legal to include a depiction of a child rape in a mainstream movie?
Lolita for example?

Facebook ban pictures of breast feeding women but facebook allows videos of murders to be shown. Execution by chainsaw, a real life crime where the victims face is not obscured and the victim has not consented to his murder being broadcast by Facebook. The victim has living relatives who facebook seem not to care about.

jeanjolie

sbsquarepants wrote: »

To quote the great John McEnroe - you can not be serious.

I can't even wrap my head around what you've just said there. What is the harm in someone **** while watching a video of a kid being raped?

What is the harm?

You do know that the images are of the real thing - those aren't CGI kids

Okay..see your point but would it be okay if it's just an animated cartoon?

jeanjolie

sbsquarepants wrote: »

I don't care who you are, my friend, my brother, my missus ffs - if I catch you looking at child porn I'm kicking the living shít out of you and reporting you to the cops.

As for anything going on between consenting adults - that's none of my business whatsoever. The list of "illegal" stuff in the UK is ridiculous.
Squirting is against the law - ffs that has got to be one of the most retarded things I've ever heard. Or oral is ok - but only in certain positions, you couldn't make this shít up!!

Are you overexaggerating or serious?

endacl

I'm aware that if I didn't report, I'd be complicit in abuse. I couldn't be complicit in abuse, ergo I'd report.

Quod Erat Demonstrandum.

TBH, this is a quandary that isn't a quandary at all.

Not_A_Racist

It is an issue, Endacl.

What if you found out that your 15 year old son had received a nude picture of his 15 year old girlfriend.

She is guilty of producing and distributing child porn and he is guilty of receiving and possessing it.


Also, you can use a tool to download an entire tumblr blog for example. If you download 1,000 images and one or two are suspect you haven't done that intentionally.

There are jail bait blogs which are suspect obviously.