F.G. Leadershio

Xenophile

I think Simon Harris has backed the wrong man. In the long run it good be a good thing as I don't think he will get a soft Ministry.

vinpaul

I agree. Varadkar seems unstoppable at the moment. I can see a general election coming down the tracks and some interesting developments as a result.

loyatemu

Harris has backed the wrong horse and is likely to get demoted as a result - Leo will want to reward his supporters (unless none of them fancy the health job).

Annasopra

loyatemu wrote: »

Harris has backed the wrong horse and is likely to get demoted as a result - Leo will want to reward his supporters (unless none of them fancy the health job).

I reckon he will either be left in health or possibly not even get a cabinet seat.

matt-dublin

Harris has turned into a cretin! When he was originally looking for is first seat he was great and full of enthusiasm but now he just feels like he's a 60 year old settled politician who's looking for his pension!

Maybe it's just the healthcare sector has done it to him?

matt-dublin

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

I reckon he will either be left in health or possibly not even get a cabinet seat.

If varadkar wins he'll get nothing

loyatemu

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

I reckon he will either be left in health or possibly not even get a cabinet seat.

Leo will probably put Coveney in health - there you go Simon, sort that out :pac:

Cerco

matt-dublin wrote: »

If varadkar wins he'll get nothing

I doubt that. Varadkar is no fool and no matter what we think of Harris he is an asset to FG. He is a very articulate waffler and good debater. A quick thinker and well informed.

ellejay

Leo might be mr. popular in the FG party, but I don't think the general public would vote for him.
Kills me to say this but he's too young.

Maybe FG want out of government for a few years and that's why leo is being nominated.

Annasopra

ellejay wrote: »

Leo might be mr. popular in the FG party, but I don't think the general public would vote for him.
Kills me to say this but he's too young.

Maybe FG want out of government for a few years and that's why leo is being nominated.

It isn't Leo being too young that makes Leo less popular. It is being too right wing and too Thatcherite. Banning the right to strike. Demonising people on social welfare.

Cerco

I would not be surprised if Leo is knocked off his perch.
Think about the electorate and the anonymity of the secret ballot.
Politicians, in the main, will waiver like feathers in wind.
Their only focus is their own career and promotion prospects.

ellejay

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

It isn't Leo being too young that makes Leo less popular. It is being too right wing and too Thatcherite. Banning the right to strike. Demonising people on social welfare.

That's a typical FG view though!!
"Blueshirt farmers with plenty of money" is the stereotypical view of FG. They tried hard to move away from that, but Leo will move them back.

Mitch Connor

I've always viewed the health ministry as a poisonous one - couldn't believe they handed it to Harris. I don't like Harris but from an FG viewpoint, I can't understand why they gave it to him. No minister is every going to come out the other side of it looking like they did a good job.

loobylou

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I've always viewed the health ministry as a poisonous one - couldn't believe they handed it to Harris. I don't like Harris but from an FG viewpoint, I can't understand why they gave it to him. No minister is every going to come out the other side of it looking like they did a good job.

Brian Cowen described it as Angola, ie full of landmines. If Coveney wins Simon (Harris)will get an economic ministry, if Varadkar wins he"ll be left in Health as punishment.

recedite

loobylou wrote: »

.. if Varadkar wins he"ll be left in Health as punishment.

And so, it has come to pass