The F'arcy D'arcy Show in association with Primetime - 20/05/17

RobertKK

Did all the guests including Ray share the one glass of water?

Sciprio

RobertKK wrote: »

Eamon talked some real rubbish, with the odd good point.

Lots of money goes into healthcare and the health service is still in a shambles.

Beenlost123

TheRiverman wrote: »

Yes,out of his depth by a long way in a discussion like that.

Hard to win with a leftie using emotional tactics though and one thats drunk at that.

Patty O Furniture

Lady Chatterton wrote: »

His wife Jane Gogan is a RTE Fat Cat too....

I didn't know that, any relation to "It Didn't Suit You today" Larry

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

No prize tonight?

& i voted for Cork, hah nobody wins?

Harry Angstrom

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

Dunphy used to take over 300k a year from RTE for football punditry. Not sure what he's on now. Presumably a lot less.

He's never made any secret of the fact that he earns a good salary from RTE, but unlike the other pampered lot in RTE (including D'Arcy), he's not afraid to raise his head above the parapet and call a spade a spade.

Sciprio

AllForIt wrote: »

So much so he forgot to announce the winner of the car.

I only tuned in for dunphy so i don't know but if that's true than he truly rattled them!

Beenlost123

Sciprio wrote: »

Lots of money goes into healthcare and the health service is still in a shambles.

Its because the health workers are ****ing useless. 1 nurse per ward in the private industry with a helper, takes 3 in the public service. Sick days are mandatory holidays. Privatise the whole lot and pay private for people who cant afford healthcare.

RobertKK

Sciprio wrote: »

Lots of money goes into healthcare and the health service is still in a shambles.

It is not as bad as it is made out to be.
People hear the bad stories, but you never have the good stories on the news.

TheRiverman

monkey9 wrote: »

Frankie Boyle on RTE2

He's quite good,but Billy Connolly was and even now despite having Parkinson's Disease is the master of this.

Harry Angstrom

MayoSalmon wrote: »

And why the **** should he, he made a very successful life for himself how dare he! Dunphy are these socialist tripe will be the ruination of us all. The squeezed middle aren't squeezed enough...would you ever fook off

D'Arcy has made a successful life for himself despite having the talent of an amoeba. Something very wrong with this country when the licence fee payers have to contribute half a million a year to the salary of a man who can't even press the right button.

Lady Chatterton

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

No prize tonight?

Eamon was the prize :pac::pac::pac:

It was great seeing Ray look sooooooooooooooooo uncomfortable

AllForIt

RobertKK wrote: »

It is not as bad as it is made out to be.
People hear the bad stories, but you never have the good stories on the news.

This is very true. All you hear in the news is negativity. My dad had 3 mini-stroked in the last 9 months and he was taken care of by the HSE very well imo.
There is some kind of scan he's on a waiting list for that might take a long time but you know that's why ppl go private.

Autosport

Lady Chatterton wrote: »

Update:13 Boardsies are off my Christmas card list is but Eamon is most definitely on my nice list.

Did I make the list

Lady Chatterton

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

Acthung Baby for me. And I bet Leo prefers Achtung Baby as well.

Simon is more of a Joshua Tree man I bet.

You're beginning to sound like Paschal Donohue now, all this love for Leo..... maybe you and Leo could have a future together after all

Harry Angstrom

AllForIt wrote: »

This is very true. All you hear in the news is negativity. My dad had 3 mini-stroked in the last 9 months and he was taken care of by the HSE very well imo.
There is some kind of scan he's on a waiting list for that might take a long time but you know that's why ppl go private.

And if he had private health insurance he'd be miraculously seen by his consultant first thing on Monday morning.....

BobbyPropane

AllForIt wrote: »

This is very true. All you hear in the news is negativity. My dad had 3 mini-stroked in the last 9 months and he was taken care of by the HSE very well imo.
There is some kind of scan he's on a waiting list for that might take a long time but you know that's why ppl go private.

It could be way better if managed and funded correctly.

Need to look at other countries with successful nationalised healthcare.

I'd be in favour of getting rid of ALL government subsidies to private hospitals and nursing homes and instead using this to increase the range of critical care services.

MayoSalmon

Harry Angstrom wrote:

D'Arcy has made a successful life for himself despite having the talent of an amoeba. Something very wrong with this country when the licence fee payers have to contribute half a million a year to the salary of a man who can't even press the right button.

Oh believe me I think he's tripe but Dunphy implied he should feel so sort of guilt because he is rich and successful...anyways government have no power people have power and as long as everybody is happily and content to pay the license fee year in and year out then there fook all to complain about. Remember is easier to spend other people's money hence why we end up with Ray Darcy

Patty O Furniture

Autosport wrote: »

Did I make the list

Is there more than one list?

The Good
The Bad
The Naughty;)

Lady Chatterton

View Poll Results: FG Leadership Poll - Who gets your vote?

Simon Coveney 12 24.49%
Leo Varadkar 15 30.61%




I think Simon should hire me....if you're out there Simon, PM me, I'll get you campaign back on track

Harry Angstrom

MayoSalmon wrote: »

Oh believe me I think he's tripe but Dunphy implied he should feel so sort of guilt because he is rich and successful...

No. D'Arcy implied that things were going okay, which is perfectly understandable if you're being paid half a million a year. Dunphy merely pointed out the ridiculous nature of such a glib statement.

Patty O Furniture

Lady Chatterton wrote: »

View Poll Results: FG Leadership Poll - Who gets your vote?

Simon Coveney 12 24.49%
Leo Varadkar 15 30.61%




I think Simon should hire me....if you're out there Simon, PM me, I'll get you campaign back on track

Ah but Free Skinny Latte's & Lion bars from Leo

Btw: Eamo just came on now on the +1 channel, i'll be ready for it this time!

Atlantic Dawn

Launching the campaign in Leo Street was a streak of gold.

Lady Chatterton

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Launching the campaign in Leo Street was a streak of gold.

Not really, it shows what an egotist Leo is. It screamed 'It's all about me'.

monkey9

Lady Chatterton wrote: »

Not really, it shows what an egotist Leo is. It screamed 'It's all about me'.

I turned the news straight off when i seen him walking down Leo St. Just pure nonsense.

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Dunphy's parting shot that the squeezed middle ''aren't being squeezed enough'' left a bit of a sour taste...I reckon €42000 per annum wouldn't last him six weeks.

NIMAN

I just caught his interview on the player.

First thing, Jez Ray didn't like getting his salary mentioned, did he? Its obvious Dunphy is jealous.

And that parting line about the squeezed middle not being squeezed enough. It was harsh and will have lost him a lot of supporters. It seemed to come across like a throw away comment a drunk mate would make down the pub on a Saturday night.

I think he will regret having made it, and wouldn't be surprised to hear him trying to backtrack on it in the coming days/weeks.

lufties

MayoSalmon wrote: »

And why the **** should he, he made a very successful life for himself how dare he! Dunphy are these socialist tripe will be the ruination of us all. The squeezed middle aren't squeezed enough...would you ever fook off

Dunphy the champagne socialist. Middle should be squeezed? What is middle, 40k and above? I was on 43k this year, rent 600 pm, car insurance 1350 a year, tax 400 a yr, along with TV licence and all the other bull**** we pay here.

Screw dunphy and his virtue signalling, we live in a meritocracy, its how humans have evolved throughout time. If his pocket was attacked as much as the so called 'middle', he'd be singing a different tune. ****ing degenerate arsehole:mad:

goose2005

Beenlost123 wrote: »

Its because the health workers are ****ing useless. 1 nurse per ward in the private industry with a helper, takes 3 in the public service. Sick days are mandatory holidays. Privatise the whole lot and pay private for people who cant afford healthcare.

first time I've ever heard someone say that there are too many nurses in the public system! Anyway, private provision brings its own problems, with all sorts of cost-cutting and price-gouging

Jamiekelly

Beenlost123 wrote: »

Its because the health workers are ****ing useless. 1 nurse per ward in the private industry with a helper, takes 3 in the public service. Sick days are mandatory holidays. Privatise the whole lot and pay private for people who cant afford healthcare.

A laughable statement. I wonder why there are less nurses and doctors in the private sector, it couldn't be that there are less patients? Nooooo that couldn't be it. It must be because of big "gubermint".

"Privatise the whole lot and pay private for people who can't afford healthcare"

So you want an entirely for profit healthcare system but with a socialist guarantee for the poor? Who will enforce that guarantee on the newly privatised hospitals? The government?

How many billion in government contracts will be set aside for this? Half of what we do now? All of it? Or will it just depend on each new government to set the finance aside?

And it's not like companies with guaranteed government money in their back pocket will ever fall below standard just to save a few quid, sure why would they do that? It's not like they have shareholders and investors who just want a return on profit....

Calm your emotional rhetoric, it's only going to get you so far...well, about as far as the USA, who essentially have the system you just described.

How's that working out for them lately?

GerryDerpy

While I like to see D'Arcy being so uncomfortable, Dunphy was talking populist garbage. Anyone that talks about equality is an irrational half-wit. Lefties who emotionally talk about equality yet push for more diversity.

Lady Chatterton

TheRiverman wrote: »

Bruce Springsteen as U2 frontman after Bono crashed off his bike.
https://youtu.be/NVIV2jgJQIA

I do like Bruce but .....................

Gawd, this doesn't work for me at all.

lufties

GerryDerpy wrote: »

While I like to see D'Arcy being so uncomfortable, Dunphy was talking populist garbage. Anyone that talks about equality is an irrational half-wit. Lefties who emotionally talk about equality yet push for more diversity.

Exactly, I used to consider myself a leftie. Then I grew up!

In fairness though, there needs to be balance. I agree with looking after the more vunerable in society, but I also believe there needs to be incentive to strive for success.

What I really can't stomach is virtue signalling lefties, who think they have the moral high ground, when in reality they are probably trying to compensate for some deep seated guilt they carry.

Lady Chatterton

Leo's campaign managers have had another good day, Leo makes the RTÉ news after completing a 5km charity run.

Today's message is ...... our Leo is young, fit and healthy.


In Cork, Coveney's B&W portrait picture on his manifesto makes him look old and outdated. Is there anyone out there who can save Coveney from himself? The man needs better advisors, he is sincere but is failing to inspire his party colleagues.

MayoSalmon

Harry Angstrom wrote:

No. D'Arcy implied that things were going okay, which is perfectly understandable if you're being paid half a million a year. Dunphy merely pointed out the ridiculous nature of such a glib statement.

2010 16% unemployment 2017 6%...things are going well

Lady Chatterton

MayoSalmon wrote: »

2010 16% unemployment 2017 6%...things are going well

Looks good on paper but the sad reality of it is there are lots of people being hired on very sh1tty contracts.

I'm aware of businesses in my area who announced jobs to lots of fanfare but the new hires have been given rolling six month contracts and at 18 months their services are dispensed with before they become entitled to redundancy payments at 24 months. I hear their stories, they're in their 30's and they can't secure a mortgage because they aren't in permanent employment.

I have a good friend who was offered a job by a media outlet but she was expected to work the first six months for free. The same organisation was well known for using the Job Bridge scheme to their advantage.

MayoSalmon

So work as opposed to no work?!

Atlantic Dawn

MayoSalmon wrote: »

So work as opposed to no work?!

You will never be short of work if you work for free :pac:

lufties

MayoSalmon wrote: »

So work as opposed to no work?!

depends on the quality of the work..modern slavery is not good..In a lot of cases this is what it is..Luckily I'm footloose and fancy free, so i can feck off overseas.Others don't have that option, and the government is aware of this and exploits it.

lufties

Lady Chatterton wrote: »

Looks good on paper but the sad reality of it is there are lots of people being hired on very sh1tty contracts.

I'm aware of businesses in my area who announced jobs to lots of fanfare but the new hires have been given rolling six month contracts and at 18 months their services are dispensed with before they become entitled to redundancy payments at 24 months. I hear their stories, they're in their 30's and they can't secure a mortgage because they aren't in permanent employment.

I have a good friend who was offered a job by a media outlet but she was expected to work the first six months for free. The same organisation was well known for using the Job Bridge scheme to their advantage.

This is gonna sound awful but I'm sure this 'media' company knows that women are slaves to glitz and glam, and recognise that some women crave fame so much that they'd happily work for free to get a sniff of it.

Lady Chatterton

lufties wrote: »

This is gonna sound awful but I'm sure this 'media' company knows that women are slaves to glitz and glam, and recognise that some women crave fame so much that they'd happily work for free to get a sniff of it.

You're right, your comment does sound awful and isn't worth responding to.

BTW, there isn't much glam in court reporting.... just saying.......

MayoSalmon

Atlantic Dawn wrote:

You will never be short of work if you work for free

For 1.9 million Irish people in 2016 there average wage was €45075.

MayoSalmon

lufties wrote:

depends on the quality of the work..modern slavery is not good..In a lot of cases this is what it is..Luckily I'm footloose and fancy free, so i can feck off overseas.Others don't have that option, and the government is aware of this and exploits it.

Modern slavery?! Would you ever give over the average wage in Ireland is  €45075. Terrible isn't it!

lufties

MayoSalmon wrote: »

Modern slavery?! Would you ever give over the average wage in Ireland is  €45075. Terrible isn't it!

working a skilled job for unskilled wages is exploitation and akin to slavery. Combine that with **** weather, being ripped off on a daily basis with tax, insurance, rent and you'd certainly feel like a slave.

NIMAN

Every countries employment figures include ****ty jobs, get over it.

Lady Chatterton

NIMAN wrote: »

Every countries employment figures include ****ty jobs, get over it.

While this is true, there should be an incentive to work. The last thing this country needs is for people to decide social welfare (free house, medical care, no childcare costs etc) is preferable to their sh1tty contract.

lufties

Lady Chatterton wrote: »

While this is true, there should be an incentive to work. The last thing this country needs is for people to decide social welfare (free house, medical care, no childcare costs etc) is preferable to their sh1tty contract.

Or some weird communist state where everyone is paid peanuts!

seachto7

RobertKK wrote: »

Yeah, it is insulting to people who save lives every day.
I saw the health service save the life of my father this year and to hear Eamon say we have no health system is such an injustice to so many good people who work in the health service.

You don't think the health system is a shambles? People having to work long hours etc? They're doing the best they can in a ****e system...

MayoSalmon

Lady Chatterton wrote: »

While this is true, there should be an incentive to work. The last thing this country needs is for people to decide social welfare (free house, medical care, no childcare costs etc) is preferable to their sh1tty contract.

They already have done.

2.2 million people in Ireland claim some sort of welfare benefit.

Lady Chatterton

MayoSalmon wrote: »

They already have done.

2.2 million people in Ireland claim some sort of welfare benefit.

Indeed, the truth is we're all or are likely to be beneficiaries of our country's social welfare system at some stage. If we're lucky we'll be claiming maternity benefit or a State Pension if we're unlucky we could be claiming Carers Benefit or a Widow/Widowers Pension.

I'm not sure about you but I'm particularly keen to avoid Carers Benefi, I'm not sure I would fancy working 24/7 for a poxy €200 a week.

List of State Benefits - Ireland

State Pension (Non-Contributory)
One Parent Family Payment
Widow's Widower's or Surviving Civil Partner's (Non-Contributory) Pension
Guardian's (Non-Contributory) Pension
Blind Person's Pension
Carer's Allowance

Other Payments

Rural Social Scheme (RSS)
Tús - Community Work Placement Initiative
Community Services Programme
Job Initiative
Community Employment (CE)
Insolvency Payments (Note: Tax and PRSI is deducted by either the relevant liquidator/receiver/administrator or by this Department, before the payment is made to each employee. See here for more details)

Illness Benefit
Jobseeker's Benefit
Carer's Benefit
State Pension (Contributory)
State Pension (Transition)
Widow's, Widower's or Surviving Civil Partner's (Contributory) Pension
Guardian's (Contributory) Allowance
Invalidity Pension
Partial Capacity Benefit
Maternity Benefit
Adoptive Benefit
Health and Safety Benefit
Employment Injury Benefits

Injury Benefit
Disablement Pension
Death Benefit
Incapacity Supplement
Constant Attendance Allowance

Social Assistance Payments

State Pension (Non-Contributory)
One Parent Family Payment
Widow's Widower's or Surviving Civil Partner's (Non-Contributory) Pension
Guardian's (Non-Contributory) Pension
Blind Person's Pension
Carer's Allowance

Other Payments

Rural Social Scheme (RSS)
Tús - Community Work Placement Initiative
Community Services Programme
Job Initiative
Community Employment (CE)
Insolvency Payments (Note: Tax and PRSI is deducted by either the relevant liquidator/receiver/administrator or by this Department, before the payment is made to each employee. See here for more details)

MayoSalmon

Madness when you see them all written down. Welfare state gone mad.

Nobody spends someone's else money as wisely as they spend there own.