WW XII - Simpsons Mafia

Tigger

quickbeam wrote: »

We have 30 players and 30 character names. Anybody'd be a fool to go name themselves as a character not even in the game.

i'm dr hibbert or would a baddie like to say they are dr hibbert?
didnt think so

tritium

Tigger wrote: »

ok i have two things to tell you and there i going to be shoutng t me

1 the game is stastically vastly in the bddies favur at the moment

2 if as i believe every player has been given a name then we could simply all say who we are right now starting with the nrv's and then the rolled goodies and at worst we have all the baddies and a goodie who had to say the baddie tried to claim their name

i assume we wont do it but it works

So....technically this will work. It would however completly break the spirit of the game when a lot of efforts gone into it.

Tigger

i'd love to see the backrooms right now

Xaracatz

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

Just on this Tigger, while its a good idea, surely there are too many simpsons characters thast aint name as baddies/rolled that the baddies could just claim? Patty,selma,apu just to name a few off the top my head

Apu is a character. We know the names of the characters in the game..

Necro

Tigger wrote: »

i'd love to see the backrooms right now

Are we doing this now? Or are we waiting on general agreement

The_Valeyard

tritium wrote: »

So....technically this will work. It would however completly break the spirit of the game when a lot of efforts gone into it.

Probably a rule against it?

Tigger

tritium wrote: »

So....technically this will work. It would however completly break the spirit of the game when a lot of efforts gone into it.

either we can come out as who we are or we cant
rule 1 says play to win and its totally in game to say which charachter i am

The_Valeyard

Necrominus wrote: »

Are we doing this now? Or are we waiting on general agreement

Wait.

raze_them_all_

Xaracatz wrote: »

Apu is a character. We know the names of the characters in the game..

Yeah was pointed out , im a tit im good with tiggers idea if we get a general consensus

Tigger

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Wait.

lol

wolf

Tigger

Tigger wrote: »

either we can come out as who we are or we cant
rule 1 says play to win and its totally in game to say which charachter i am

rule 11
obvs

The_Valeyard

Tigger wrote: »

lol

wolf

No. Simple. He comes out and is a villager. No one else comes out and he is f*cked. Wait for consensus.

I'd be against your idea as I see it as game breaking.

Necro

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

Yeah was pointed out , im a tit im good with tiggers idea if we get a general consensus

Yeah I'm all for it too. But it may be better to hold off until a general consensus is formed.

Ectoplasm

tritium wrote: »

So....technically this will work. It would however completly break the spirit of the game when a lot of efforts gone into it.

Would it really work? Apart from the spirit of the game thing, would we not end up with multiple claims of goodies...as in there's 8 bad guys, and they're not all going to claim the same innocent roles. So we'd have a load of double claims and in the meantime the baddies would have a target list and they can off people pretty darn quick in this game!

A Neurotic

It makes sense, but does seem a bit game-breaky. Maybe GM can clarify their position?

Lord TSC

Revealing your identity has to be in the game rules; it's a core method to defend yourself when accused to reveal your role (or lack thereof) in your own defence.

tritium

Tigger wrote: »

lol

wolf

Haha if nothing else the reactions are good for confirming wolves

The_Valeyard

tritium wrote: »

Haha if nothing else the reactions are good for confirming wolves

I think you are a wolf trying to control the game. But I suppose if we do Tiggers thing. We will really see who you are.


But I feel it's game breaking and possibly should Put Tigger in Springfield Jail for it.

Lord TSC

EMF2010 wrote: »

Would it really work? Apart from the spirit of the game thing, would we not end up with multiple claims of goodies...as in there's 8 bad guys, and they're not all going to claim the same innocent roles. So we'd have a load of double claims and in the meantime the baddies would have a target list and they can off people pretty darn quick in this game!

Both sides would get a target list. At most, there'd be 8 doubles, so we get a list of sixteen people who are suspicious, while everyone else gets cleared. So then it becomes a ha,e of "who can clear their list of eight first".

quickbeam

Tigger wrote: »

either we can come out as who we are or we cant
rule 1 says play to win and its totally in game to say which charachter i am

Okay, here's what I've been thinking of all weekend since I learned my identity ....

The main Simpson family come out. Each can prove their claim. Maggie knows who Bart and Lisa are so that will prove she's legit. Bart and Lisa can confirm each other. Homer can be be proved if there's an attempt to lynch him (early in the game, while the family is in tact) - it'd be a waste of a lynch as you'd not catch a baddie, but you'd also prevent lynching an important roled player at the same time, and prevent Herman getting a kill, and have a confirmed goodie to look to. Marge has no way to prove she's part of the family so couldn't take part. But you'd be left with four confirmed goodies. Three of those four are basically NRVs anyway, and then Willie can go protect our vigilante by which time we'll hopefully have a good idea of who we can aim those bullets at.

That was my idea. Thoughts? I will say I am one of the above mentioned people but won't say who until somebody finds the obvious holes in my logic that I've missed.

Triceratops Ballet

feck it I'm in!

raze_them_all_

Lord TSC wrote: »

Both sides would get a target list. At most, there'd be 8 doubles, so we get a list of sixteen people who are suspicious, while everyone else gets cleared. So then it becomes a ha,e of "who can clear their list of eight first".

baddies get a **** load of kills, they would clear it first id imagine

tritium

EMF2010 wrote: »

Would it really work? Apart from the spirit of the game thing, would we not end up with multiple claims of goodies...as in there's 8 bad guys, and they're not all going to claim the same innocent roles. So we'd have a load of double claims and in the meantime the baddies would have a target list and they can off people pretty darn quick in this game!

Not sure on this. Kill rate is definitely very against us so with 8 baddies plus nelson to be turned it could become a very lopsided race. Will try to run the numbers

Tigger

Lord TSC wrote: »

Revealing your identity has to be in the game rules; it's a core method to defend yourself when accused to reveal your role (or lack thereof) in your own defence.

exactly and we are all in danger of being munched tonight
so we all announce and we win
we could start again in the morning without giving all the names out this time

Lord TSC

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

baddies get a **** load of kills, they would clear it first id imagine

Yeah, maybe. But without it, then we stand less of a chance. At least this way, we'd have some sort of list to work on, right?

The_Valeyard

Tigger wrote: »

exactly and we are all in danger of being munched tonight
so we all announce and we win
we could start again in the morning without giving all the names out this time

How would that work if everyone already knows?

Tigger

quickbeam wrote: »

Okay, here's what I've been thinking of all weekend since I learned my identity ....

The main Simpson family come out. Each can prove their claim. Maggie knows who Bart and Lisa are so that will prove she's legit. Bart and Lisa can confirm each other. Homer can be be proved if there's an attempt to lynch him (early in the game, while the family is in tact) - it'd be a waste of a lynch as you'd not catch a baddie, but you'd also prevent lynching an important roled player at the same time, and prevent Herman getting a kill, and have a confirmed goodie to look to. Marge has no way to prove she's part of the family so couldn't take part. But you'd be left with four confirmed goodies. Three of those four are basically NRVs anyway, and then Willie can go protect our vigilante by which time we'll hopefully have a good idea of who we can aim those bullets at.

That was my idea. Thoughts? I will say I am one of the above mentioned people but won't say who until somebody finds the obvious holes in my logic that I've missed.

i figured you were

Chagan

I'm on board with Tigger's plan. No difference in revealing now and revealing when your head is on the block.

If it works properly it would give us a block of 16 possibles with a 50% chance of a lynch being correct.

Tigger

The_Valeyard wrote: »

How would that work if everyone already knows?

re randomise the roles

Tigger

Chagan wrote: »

I'm on board with Tigger's plan. No difference in revealing now and revealing when your head is on the block.

If it works properly it would give us a block of 16 possibles with a 50% chance of a lynch being correct.

its different
they cant all comunicate so we all announce at the same time
it will be about 12 on the list max