WW XII - Simpsons Mafia

Xaracatz · 21-05-2017 8:48pm

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

Yeah was pointed out , im a tit im good with tiggers idea if we get a general consensus

Sorry - saw it after I posted. You're not a tit at all.

I'd prefer not to reveal names, as it's not in the nature of the game IHMO.

Tigger · 21-05-2017 8:49pm

Xaracatz wrote: »

Sorry - saw it after I posted. You're not a tit at all.

I'd prefer not to reveal names, as it's not in the nature of the game IHMO.

ihmo?

Lord TSC · 21-05-2017 8:49pm

Xaracatz wrote: »

Sorry - saw it after I posted. You're not a tit at all.

I'd prefer not to reveal names, as it's not in the nature of the game IHMO.

Isn't it? The nature of the game is to use the info given to us to work out whose good and whose bad. Yeah, I kinda feel bad that the "flaw" was copped, but it seems a powerful weapon that's hard to ignore now. Like Pandora's box

raze_them_all_ · 21-05-2017 8:49pm

Tigger wrote: »

ihmo?

probably supposed to be imho, in my honest opinion

raze_them_all_ · 21-05-2017 8:50pm

Lord TSC wrote: »

Isn't it? The nature of the game is to use the info given to us to work out whose good and whose bad. Yeah, I kinda feel bad that the "flaw" was copped, but it seems a powerful weapon that's hard to ignore now. Like Pandora's box

can be done in every episode from now on! XD

Chagan · 21-05-2017 8:50pm

Tigger wrote: »

its different
they cant all comunicate so we all announce at the same time
it will be about 12 on the list max

Oh I didn't realise you wanted everyone to do it at a specific time. Yeah, that would probably cut down the numbers.

The_Valeyard · 21-05-2017 8:51pm

The silence from the game mods needs to end and give clarity on this issue.

quickbeam · 21-05-2017 8:52pm

Tigger wrote: »

re randomise the roles

Am confused. All the roles get given out again?

For those who think us all revealing is against the spirit of the game, I think the Simpsons family only revealing would be okay. It was done in an alternative universe.

tritium · 21-05-2017 8:53pm

Tigger wrote: »

exactly and we are all in danger of being munched tonight
so we all announce and we win
we could start again in the morning without giving all the names out this time

Can i get someone to double check these workings

Im assuming 1 kill tomorrow, one for each bad team (4) per night thereafter. For simplicity ive always assumed we lynch right on the overlapping claims, ignored maggies bullets- basically a 4:1 race. I also assume we dont get either sk early

Night. Goodies baddies
0. 22. 8
1. 21. 8
2. 17. 7
3. 13. 6
4. 9. 5
5. 5. 4

And we basically loose .....

The_Valeyard · 21-05-2017 8:54pm

quickbeam wrote: »

Am confused. All the roles get given out again?

For those who think us all revealing is against the spirit of the game, I think the Simpsons family only revealing would be okay. It was done in an alternative universe.

If the Simpson's family reveal, then the wolves pick off each member until they can kill homer. They be dead in few turns.

Triceratops Ballet · 21-05-2017 8:54pm

I support the role reveal, but I'm confused about the randomise thing tigs speaks of. Can you elaborate oh bouncy one?

Tigger · 21-05-2017 8:54pm

quickbeam wrote: »

Am confused. All the roles get given out again?

For those who think us all revealing is against the spirit of the game, I think the Simpsons family only revealing would be okay. It was done in an alternative universe.

yeah but not the 12 nrv roles
means it cant be done again

sKeith · 21-05-2017 8:54pm

+1 for revealing. have we a consensus yet? we also need a consensus for when to reveal.

Necro · 21-05-2017 8:57pm

sKeith wrote: »

+1 for revealing. have we a consensus yet? we also need a consensus for when to reveal.

I'm in agreement with the reveal but I do think we should wait for the mods to give us clarity on the issue before anything is done.

Ectoplasm · 21-05-2017 8:57pm

tritium wrote: »

Can i get someone to double check these workings

Im assuming 1 kill tomorrow, one for each bad team (4) per night thereafter. For simplicity ive always assumed we lynch right on the overlapping claims, ignored maggies bullets- basically a 4:1 race. I also assume we dont get either sk early

Night. Goodies baddies
0. 22. 8
1. 21. 8
2. 17. 7
3. 13. 6
4. 9. 5
5. 5. 4

And we basically loose .....

This was my concern, that they can kill us faster than we can pick off claims.

quickbeam · 21-05-2017 8:58pm

The_Valeyard wrote: »

If the Simpson's family reveal, then the wolves pick off each member until they can kill homer. They be dead in few turns.

Yeah, the likliehood of all Simpsons living until the end would be diminished, but the baddies can't coordinate their kills, so it could take four turns for it to happen, and more with Willie's protection. In the mean-time that gives Clancy and Dr. Hibbert four turns of peeks and death roles to reveal.

Also, only one needs to die for Homer to be attacked - he doesn't need to be last.

WerewolfGM · 21-05-2017 8:58pm

While Kent and Duffman respect everyones right to reveal when they see fit, please remember Rule 11 - In it to win it. With the high kill rate in this game it's not in the interest of the majority of roles to come out, good or bad. There are also players who haven't turned up yet. This is not a direction we had seen the game going, so we're in unchartered territory, but it has the potential to be game breaking and no-one wants that.

Tigger · 21-05-2017 8:59pm

tritium wrote: »

Can i get someone to double check these workings

Im assuming 1 kill tomorrow, one for each bad team (4) per night thereafter. For simplicity ive always assumed we lynch right on the overlapping claims, ignored maggies bullets- basically a 4:1 race. I also assume we dont get either sk early

Night. Goodies baddies
0. 22. 8
1. 21. 8
2. 17. 7
3. 13. 6
4. 9. 5
5. 5. 4

And we basically loose .....

thats not a correct representation of the numbers and how it would play out

The_Valeyard · 21-05-2017 9:00pm

quickbeam wrote: »

Yeah, the likliehood of all Simpsons living until the end would be diminished, but the baddies can't coordinate their kills, so it could take four turns for it to happen, and more with Willie's protection. In the mean-time that gives Clancy and Dr. Hibbert four turns of peeks and death roles to reveal.

Also, only one needs to die for Homer to be attacked - he doesn't need to be last.

Ah k. I thought all must die before homer could be touched.

tritium · 21-05-2017 9:00pm

Tigger wrote: »

thats not a correct representation of the numbers and how it would play out

Great, give me the workings so

The_Valeyard · 21-05-2017 9:01pm

Tigger wrote: »

thats not a correct representation of the numbers and how it would play out

Then redo the maths and we shall see whose numbers are right.

andy125 · 21-05-2017 9:01pm

I agree its our best chance of a win tbh

Lord TSC · 21-05-2017 9:02pm

If those numbers show we are ****ed if we do reveal, doesn't that mean it's also near impossible to win without doing so?

The_Valeyard · 21-05-2017 9:03pm

Lord TSC wrote: »

If those numbers show we are ****ed if we do reveal, doesn't that mean it's also near impossible to win without doing so?

We are forgetting that bullets, protection, seers can alter the numbers very quickly.

sKeith · 21-05-2017 9:04pm

andy125 wrote: »

I agree its our best chance of a win tbh

bodyguard can't protect himself.
magee can't kill when dead
homer isn't invincible when any simpson dead

3 reasons a reveal all might not be in our interests.

Tigger · 21-05-2017 9:06pm

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Then redo the maths and we shall see whose numbers are right.

lol
if we all reveal at once its not going to be 50 50
at worst it will ne 66-33 might even be 80-20

maggie gets to eliminate 2 wolves straight away from the definite list
so its 22-6 before they munch

that 6 will have less kills as soon as we hit the serial killers or eliminate a team
they aren't one team so thy will also double target which will drop the kill rate and therehas to be as many of them on one team and no other teams left for a wolf win so its a lot more complicated than trit thinks

Tigger · 21-05-2017 9:07pm

one wy or the other i suggest willy should protect me tonight
hee hee hee

The_Valeyard · 21-05-2017 9:08pm

Tigger wrote: »

lol
if we all reveal at once its not going to be 50 50
at worst it will ne 66-33 might even be 80-20

maggie gets to eliminate 2 wolves straight away from the definite list
so its 22-6 before they munch

that 6 will have less kills as soon as we hit the serial killers or eliminate a team
they aren't one team so thy will also double target which will drop the kill rate and therehas to be as many of them on one team and no other teams left for a wolf win so its a lot more complicated than trit thinks

Unless one team turns Nelson and they have a safety net of one.

Also, Maggie could kill villagers. There would be zero definite list as good as bad would fight over rolls.

sullivlo · 21-05-2017 9:09pm

Can we coordinate a time to reveal though? We can barely coordinate a #ffa most of the time

raze_them_all_ · 21-05-2017 9:09pm

Tigger wrote: »

lol
if we all reveal at once its not going to be 50 50
at worst it will ne 66-33 might even be 80-20

maggie gets to eliminate 2 wolves straight away from the definite list
so its 22-6 before they munch

that 6 will have less kills as soon as we hit the serial killers or eliminate a team
they aren't one team so thy will also double target which will drop the kill rate and therehas to be as many of them on one team and no other teams left for a wolf win so its a lot more complicated than trit thinks

will maggie not be taking 50/50 shot as wolves will double claim? also as soon as nelson is revealed he'd be munched into a wolf so thatd be another maggie bullet/lynch used to off nelson?

WW XII - Simpsons Mafia

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