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General FPL Chat 2017/18

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,270 ✭✭✭clairewithani


    Who will play up front for West Ham does anyone know?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,703 ✭✭✭dr.kenneth noisewater


    Who will play up front for West Ham does anyone know?


    Prob Ayew


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,264 ✭✭✭✭manual_man


    Who will play up front for West Ham does anyone know?

    Arnautovic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,568 ✭✭✭thewools


    Who will play up front for West Ham does anyone know?
    Arnie surely..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,421 ✭✭✭Shedite27


    Was messing around the statistics section this morning. Some interesting/weird ones....

    Goals scored in a Game by Kane:
    0 - 12 times
    1 - 2 times
    2 - 6 times
    3 - 2 times
    He really is a haul or nothing. Not many 8-pointers

    Ordered by value (season), the 7 most valuable players are goalkeepers.

    Darren Fletcher has conceded 4 more goals than anyone else this season.

    10 different keepers have saved penalties this season - all one each


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,810 ✭✭✭✭jimmii


    That Fletcher one is probably the most surprising! Shows how much rotation has gone on around him!


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,083 ✭✭✭Chesty08


    Shedite27 wrote: »
    Was messing around the statistics section this morning. Some interesting/weird ones....

    Goals scored in a Game by Kane:
    0 - 12 times
    1 - 2 times
    2 - 6 times
    3 - 2 times
    He really is a haul or nothing. Not many 8-pointers

    Ordered by value (season), the 7 most valuable players are goalkeepers.

    Darren Fletcher has conceded 4 more goals than anyone else this season.

    10 different keepers have saved penalties this season - all one each

    Kane has blanked more than half his games. WOW 12/22.

    Not a top striker as made out to be!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭qwabercd


    Yeah because a player should be judged on his number of blanks as opposed to total points scored..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,886 ✭✭✭stephenl15


    Chesty08 wrote: »
    Kane has blanked more than half his games. WOW 12/22.

    Not a top striker as made out to be!

    Woah now :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,810 ✭✭✭✭jimmii


    Chesty08 wrote: »
    Kane has blanked more than half his games. WOW 12/22.

    Not a top striker as made out to be!

    Completely agree he's totally overrated :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,324 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Chesty08 wrote: »
    Kane has blanked more than half his games. WOW 12/22.

    Not a top striker as made out to be!

    You're missing the 20 goals in the other 10 games.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,810 ✭✭✭✭jimmii


    PARlance wrote: »
    You're missing the 20 goals in the other 10 games.

    Yeah but you don't count those you only count the 12 blanks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,787 ✭✭✭Benimar


    Chesty08 wrote: »
    Not a top striker as made out to be!

    Jesus!

    That’s a ‘different’ opinion, I’ll give you that!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,191 ✭✭✭✭Shanotheslayer


    Surely consistent is a better word to use? :pac:

    Then again he's consistently the top goalscorer in the league


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,083 ✭✭✭Chesty08


    PARlance wrote: »
    You're missing the 20 goals in the other 10 games.

    This is my point. He is not on the £200mil price range when only scoring in 10 out of 22 games!

    Btw how many of those where penalties also!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,787 ✭✭✭Benimar


    Just by way of a reasonably fair comparison, I looked at Lukakus stats.

    Lukaku is as nailed on as Kane, playing for a top 4 team and would be highly regarded by FF players, hence why I’m using him.

    In 21 starts Lukaku has 11 blanks BUT has only scored more than 1 goal on a single occasion in the other 10 games.

    Essentially the same number of blanks, but Kane has 9 more goals.

    Aguero is probably THE top striker, but there is too much doubt over his game time, so I’m at a loss to figure who is a better FF striker than Kane.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,787 ✭✭✭Benimar


    Chesty08 wrote: »
    This is my point. He is not on the £200mil price range when only scoring in 10 out of 22 games!

    Btw how many of those where penalties also!

    One I think.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,083 ✭✭✭Chesty08


    His 2 goals against Liverpool where his only goals against the Top 6


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,672 ✭✭✭elefant


    Chesty08 wrote: »
    This is my point. He is not on the £200mil price range when only scoring in 10 out of 22 games!

    Btw how many of those where penalties also!

    Think you're on your own there, Chesty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,787 ✭✭✭Benimar


    Chesty08 wrote: »
    His 2 goals against Liverpool where his only goals against the Top 6

    So 2 goals in 4 games as he didn’t play at Man U.

    2 of the blanks were away to City and Arsenal...shocking stuff!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,885 ✭✭✭2nd Row Donkey


    Chesty08 wrote:
    Btw how many of those where penalties also!


    One. Spurs were only awarded their first penalty in mid December


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,772 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    Benimar wrote: »
    Just by way of a reasonably fair comparison, I looked at Lukakus stats.

    Lukaku is as nailed on as Kane, playing for a top 4 team and would be highly regarded by FF players, hence why I’m using him.

    In 21 starts Lukaku has 11 blanks BUT has only scored more than 1 goal on a single occasion in the other 10 games.

    Essentially the same number of blanks, but Kane has 9 more goals.

    Aguero is probably THE top striker, but there is too much doubt over his game time, so I’m at a loss to figure who is a better FF striker than Kane.

    Kane is a top striker, however and maybe this was Chesty's point, most of his goals come when games are won, if he was a scoring the same amount of goals but in more games, Spurs wouldn't have drawn 5 and lost 5 games.
    Poch would probably prefer Kane to have less goals but score more regularly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,886 ✭✭✭stephenl15


    Chesty08 wrote: »
    This is my point. He is not on the £200mil price range when only scoring in 10 out of 22 games!

    Btw how many of those where penalties also!

    If you were to rank the Premier League strikers, who would be above Kane for you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,520 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    Messi hasn't scored in 9 of his 19 games in La Liga either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,787 ✭✭✭Benimar


    Ace2007 wrote: »
    Kane is a top striker, however and maybe this was Chesty's point, most of his goals come when games are won, if he was a scoring the same amount of goals but in more games, Spurs wouldn't have drawn 5 and lost 5 games.
    Poch would probably prefer Kane to have less goals but score more regularly.

    Poch almost certainly would, no argument there. However from a FF standpoint (and this is the FF forum), we want goals no matter when they are scored!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,810 ✭✭✭✭jimmii


    stephenl15 wrote: »
    If you were to rank the Premier League strikers, who would be above Kane for you?

    Llorente for sure. Hasn't had a single match this season where he has played 90 minutes and blanked. Same goes for Batshuayi.

    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,772 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    Benimar wrote: »
    Poch almost certainly would, no argument there. However from a FF standpoint (and this is the FF forum), we want goals no matter when they are scored!

    That's not entirely true, you want him to score goals when you have him as captain, spurs v city - you may not captain him, so if he score 3 goals your happy but not ecstatic. Where as if they are playing stoke and he blanks or like the DGW he blanks - your pi$$ed off - whereas if he score a goal in each of the 3 games - you would be happier.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,787 ✭✭✭Benimar


    Ace2007 wrote: »
    That's not entirely true, you want him to score goals when you have him as captain, spurs v city - you may not captain him, so if he score 3 goals your happy but not ecstatic. Where as if they are playing stoke and he blanks or like the DGW he blanks - your pi$$ed off - whereas if he score a goal in each of the 3 games - you would be happier.

    I suppose so, but who else would you trust (bar Salah) if you had to stick the captaincy on someone for the rest of the season?

    Lukaku, Firmino and Aguero (by not starting) are even more likely to leave you down in a DGW


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,772 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    Benimar wrote: »
    I suppose so, but who else would you trust (bar Salah) if you had to stick the captaincy on someone for the rest of the season?

    Lukaku, Firmino and Aguero (by not starting) are even more likely to leave you down in a DGW

    Sterling - better PPG, equal points, in a team always scoring goals even when they lose.

    One thing the above stat didn't show - was that If Kane doesn't score - he doesn't do anything else - 20 goals and only 1 assist this season for instance.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,598 ✭✭✭caviardreams


    In fairness, Chelsea and missing Morata and Pedro and have not been banging them in of late - with a bit of luck Duffy at home could sneak a clean sheet imo, unlikely but not a hopeless cause!

    :o Oooops :o


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