Do you think people should be allowed to bring dogs into shops/cafe/bar with them?

freshpopcorn

I'm not talking about guide dogs or assistant dogs now but do you think people should be allowed to bring their pet to the supermarket with them and rub them and touch food in the shop. Would this bother you or would you like to see an Ireland where you can bring a dog anywhere?
I grew up with always being told to wash my hands after touching the cat/dog before I went to do anything else. So, I don't know would it be for me to be honest.

cml387

freshpopcorn wrote: »

I'm not talking about guide dogs or assistant dogs now but do you think people should be aloud to bring their pet to the supermarket with them and rub them and touch food in the shop. Would this bother you or would you like to see an Ireland where you can bring a dog anywhere?
I grew up with always being told to wash my hands after touching the cat/dog before I went to do anything else. So, I don't know would it be for me to be honest.

I am definitely not in favour of people bringing dogs into shops and then rubbing them and touching the food.

Is that a thing?

Junkyard Tom

Dogs? No. Cats? Yes, because they're cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJ2cEc_TCH8

uch

Any mongo that needs to bring fifi anywhere where they're not supposed to be is the highest class of tosspot as far as I'm concerned

Atlantic Dawn

I simply wouldn't shop anywhere that allowed pets in.

Donald Trump

Aloud you say? Girls Aloud? Me being the meat in a Nadine Coyle / Cheryl whatsername sandwich? It's a far cry from small boys in the park, jumpers for goalposts. Isn't it? Mmmmm. Marvellous

uch

Donald Trump wrote: »

Aloud you say? Girls Aloud? Me being the meat in a Nadine Coyle / Cheryl whatsername sandwich? It's a far cry from small boys in the park, jumpers for goalposts. Isn't it? Mmmmm. Marvellous

Jaysus them's good pills

Donald Trump

uch wrote: »

Donald Trump wrote: »

Aloud you say? Girls Aloud? Me being the meat in a Nadine Coyle / Cheryl whatsername sandwich? It's a far cry from small boys in the park, jumpers for goalposts. Isn't it? Mmmmm. Marvellous

Jaysus them's good pills

Are you buying? Because I'm selling baby

smunchkins

Somebody has been hanging out in the animal and pet issues forum this evening methinks :rolleyes:

whatdoicare

No thanks, yuck!!

freshpopcorn

smunchkins wrote: »

Somebody has been hanging out in the animal and pet issues forum this evening methinks :rolleyes:

correct!
I think the dog who got left outside the shop came on here to vote!

ForestFire

If well disciplined and kept under control then shops could be okay, but not areas where people eat for me anyway.

Would you have issues with multiple dogs in confined space being aggressive to each other?

As for rubbing and touching food, not nice, but when you think about it, anyone in a shop could have had there hands on pets, dirt or up there arse:o before they got there...maybe best not to think, but I think I'll be washing fruit and veg more often now:)

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

cml387 wrote: »

I am definitely not in favour of people bringing dogs into shops and then rubbing them and touching the food.

Is that a thing?

Probably. I'd imagine a lot of them rub and pet the dog outside while tying it up and then still go inside and touch the food. You've been eating it for years and I'm assuming you're in reasonably good health.

uch

They're dirty c?nts if they do that,

smunchkins

Sure what about adding a few more animals in to the poll?!
According to this
http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/homehygiene/Pages/are-we-too-clean-for-our-own-good.aspx
"The theory is that farms (particularly farm animals) increase exposure to different types of good and bad germs, which stimulate the immune system and reduce the risk that someone will develop an allergy."
So we need to get a few sheep and pigs running about all the shops so everyone has a nice up and running immune system for the future!

buried

Dogs should be mandatory in bars, be a lot better than letting in those f**king phones everybody be glawping into like a drooling moron " Look ive made me face into a plug on me phone" F**k off

tomwaterford

No....anyone who thinks it reasonable to bring their dog/cat into a shop selling food needs their head examined

PucaMama

I'd have a pack of dogs in a pub a lot sooner than a pack of children

raze_them_all_

I love dogs, but no. They should not be allowed to

maudgonner

PucaMama wrote: »

I'd have a pack of dogs in a pub a lot sooner than a pack of children

After seeing the shower of feril animals* that were let run riot in my local Aldi today I'm almost inclined to agree with you. But I don't think a shop, pub or restaurant (except perhaps outside seating areas) is any place for a dog.




*of the human child variety.

wordofwarning

I see no issue with a bar. Sure a lot of bars I have don't know what a mop is. IMO there is no hygiene concern when the dog is cleaner than the floor

Dogs are allowed in restaurants and cafes etc abroad as there is special rules to allow it ie the doors going into the kitchen are designed not to let allergens into the kitchen

Lia_lia

I would have no problems with dog being allowed in shops/cafes/bars etc..

My Dad owns a bar in France and his dog pretty much lives in the bar. Customers bring their dogs all the time. No one bats an eyelid.

I don't understand some people's obsession with hygiene. Especially around pet dogs.

sashafierce

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qo2cj1dsne8y4k

YEA id big man to dogs everywhere with me

Minderbinder

Lia_lia wrote: »

I would have no problems with dog being allowed in shops/cafes/bars etc..

My Dad owns a bar in France and his dog pretty much lives in the bar. Customers bring their dogs all the time. No one bats an eyelid.

I don't understand some people's obsession with hygiene. Especially around pet dogs.

I think the owner's dog is fair enough, as the dog would be used to being there and used to all sorts of strangers coming and going. It's difficult to predict how other dogs will behave though.

I don't have a hygiene issue at all as I'm not precious, but I think it would cause problems in terms of behaviour.

Having said that, in my experience young children are a lot more annoying than pets when I'm sitting in a restaurant or cafe.

TPD

I think it should be up to the individual business to decide, and if it attracts / scares off customers, thems the breaks.

theteal

Some people are very precious when it comes to this question. I know a friends family who expected them to give the dog away because they've a baby on the way.....

I would be all for it. People need to stop being prissy about pets. I love being down the country and abroad where pets are allowed everywhere.

My only issue is that they obviously have to be well trained. I can picture another friends dog barking under a restaurant table because he wasn't getting attention/food. This would be an invitation to leave the premises.

diomed

Yeah, I love to drop a fork and have some Doberman/Pitbull cross go berserk.
I know they wouldn't hurt a fly, but last time I looked I wasn't a fly.

pilly

I'm kind of torn on this. While I'd love to be able to bring my dog into some places with me I understand some people don't like dogs.

I find a bar with a dog wandering around is a very relaxing place but would it be as relaxing if there was 5 or 6 dogs? Maybe not?

Mena Mitty

diomed wrote: »

Yeah, I love to drop a fork and have some Doberman/Pitbull cross go berserk.
I know they wouldn't hurt a fly, but last time I looked I wasn't a fly.

You'd be safe enough the Doberman/Pitbull would have his muzzle on and his napkin in place for the drool when he sees your big juicy steak ;-)

Achasanai

I'm guessing restaurants and cafes would have to have the same hygiene standards as on the continent (where animals are allowed in) so if that was the case, then yeah, absolutely. As for bars and places that don't prepare food, then I don't see a problem with it.

Of course, the dog would have to be well-behaved and not annoying anyone. Maybe some kind of rule that the owner could be asked to leave in a case of a rowdy dog? This would apply to cats (and should apply to (human) kids).

farmerwifelet

no i have two pets before i am labeled an animal hater but where there is food - no. I hate this americanisation of our pet culture suddenly pets have become surrogate children and are pandered to at every opportunity. They are animals should be treated fairly and with kindness but seriously people need to get a grip they are not little people in fur coats. It does them no justice - and raises the ugly business of puppy farms for handbag dogs and designer dogs are slowly losing their function in life as working animals. It is totally unfair to ask a dog such as a husky to live their lives in a built up city - it just shows how far from reality people are when it comes to their "pets".

mahamageehad

Minderbinder wrote: »

I think the owner's dog is fair enough, as the dog would be used to being there and used to all sorts of strangers coming and going. It's difficult to predict how other dogs will behave though.

I don't have a hygiene issue at all as I'm not precious, but I think it would cause problems in terms of behaviour.

Having said that, in my experience young children are a lot more annoying than pets when I'm sitting in a restaurant or cafe.

I'm in Europe and its completely normal for people to bring their dog on the train, bus, to restaurants, cafes, sometimes to bars. I've never yet see behaviour to be a problem. The expected standard of training is much higher though in my opinion. Dogs are trained well and socialized from a young age. In restaurants the dog usually lies down under or beside the table and doesn't move, regardless of noise, food smells, other dogs etc. It's not like half the mutts I know in Ireland who would be jumping up on ya and begging for food from the table.

beertons

No.

theteal

farmerwifelet wrote: »

no i have two pets before i am labeled an animal hater but where there is food - no. I hate this americanisation of our pet culture suddenly pets have become surrogate children and are pandered to at every opportunity. They are animals should be treated fairly and with kindness but seriously people need to get a grip they are not little people in fur coats. It does them no justice - and raises the ugly business of puppy farms for handbag dogs and designer dogs are slowly losing their function in life as working animals. It is totally unfair to ask a dog such as a husky to live their lives in a built up city - it just shows how far from reality people are when it comes to their "pets".

Nobody is talking about American handbag dogs, that stuff is just dumb. It's much more of a continental European thing that you'll see dogs in restaurants/bars/supermarkets and I'm all for it. It's quite common to see dogs in little Irish/English village pubs too.

As for large "working" dogs in confined spaces/busy cities completely agree but that's a separate issue.

Your Face

Allowed.
Aloud.

vicwatson

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

I simply wouldn't shop anywhere that allowed pets in.

But but what about petmania :pac::p

alroley

A clean and well behaved dog - yes.

BlinkingLights

theteal wrote: »

Some people are very precious when it comes to this question. I know a friends family who expected them to give the dog away because they've a baby on the way.....

I would be all for it. People need to stop being prissy about pets. I love being down the country and abroad where pets are allowed everywhere.

My only issue is that they obviously have to be well trained. I can picture another friends dog barking under a restaurant table because he wasn't getting attention/food. This would be an invitation to leave the premises.

I had a neighbour in Dublin who was pregnant and came in knocking at the door asking me to get our cat (healthy, wormed, well fed member of the family) put down as he might "hurt" her baby!

Naturally enough we told her where to go!

Parchment

i was in a cafe in Dublin recently and people brought a large Lassie type dog in. Dog was standing in the aisle blocking people as he was too big to sit under the table.

It seemed unfair on everyone trying to pass and seemed unfair on the dog as he just had to stand there while his owners ate. They were there for 40 mins at least.

Then some noises came from the cafe kitchen (i think someone dropped pots or something) and the dog started going insane barking - i nearly jumped out of my skin. Its not the context you expect to hear a dog wildly in, i nearly dropped my drink! A few others got a similar fright.

Then they left and there were Lassie hairs all over the floor. Lovely.I think they were very bad dog owners anyway and Lassie was just an accessory to them.

I am a huge animal lover, volunteer with an animal welfare group regularly and long time vegetarian but i dont like seeing animals in cafes/restaurants. I dont think its fair on the dog (its boring for them), there is a hygiene issue with hairs/slobber/potential poop/pee issues.

I dont see the issue with bringing your dog quickly into Spar or whatever if you are getting some milk and walking straight back out though.

barneygumble99

Why do people feel the need to bring a dog into a shop/bar/restaurant in the first place?? Genuine question. Can they not leave it at home or in the car when they know they'll be visiting these places. I have a dog but he's left at home when I'm going out on sociable visits.

annascott

I voted yes but only mean for well behaved ones, obviously not some big snapping mud hound peeing everywhere.. It works well in other countries. Most people who would care enough to have their dog as a companion and want to take him/her with them tend to keep them clean, vaccinated and disease free.

TerrorFirmer

While I adore dogs and wouldn't personally have any issue with it (apart from incidents like what's outlined above...), I'm inclined to say no in general, simply because not everyone likes dogs, and more than a few people are actually afraid of them. You should have a reasonable expectation to go in for a pint/coffee/sandwich and not be unexpectedly confronted by a dog.

Some places are known for being animal friendly which is nice. I love going into a bar and see a dog panned out by the fire

Mongfinder General

Dirty scruffy bastards and their crusty owners shouldn't be allowed near a place selling or preparing food. These ****rs lick their own arseholes ffs.

BabysCoffee

I never understand how dogs are part of lots of families - sleep in owners bed, hang out in their kitchen with no major consequences, etc. But then there are rulings stopping them being brought in to cafes or supermarkets. I really don't see the harm.

But then on the other hand there are people who are afraid of dogs or maybe allergic to them.

I do miss dogs in pubs. Ireland has gone very sterile. There always used to be an oul lad with a dog in most pubs. Not anymore. I think that is a shame.

BabysCoffee

barneygumble99 wrote: »

Why do people feel the need to bring a dog into a shop/bar/restaurant in the first place?? Genuine question. Can they not leave it at home or in the car when they know they'll be visiting these places. I have a dog but he's left at home when I'm going out on sociable visits.

I don't like to leave him at home on his own as I am afraid he will be lonely.

barneygumble99

BabysCoffee wrote: »

I don't like to leave him at home on his own as I am afraid he will be lonely.

Do you take him everywhere??

rgace

As long as it is just an oddball here and there who do it I don't mind too much, if everybody started bringing their pets to the shop/bank/cinema it would be mayhem!

BabysCoffee

barneygumble99 wrote: »

Do you take him everywhere??

Pretty much. He goes to work with my husband every day. Cinema is about the only place he doesn't go with us.

We leave him outside the supermarket.

BabysCoffee

rgace wrote: »

As long as it is just an oddball here and there who do it I don't mind too much, if everybody started bringing their pets to the shop/bank/cinema it would be mayhem!

There must be issues in my local bank with dogs. I was in the line for the counter when the assistant manager came running over to let me know my dog couldn't be there. I'm not too sure why. Must be some sort of H&S thing?

barneygumble99

BabysCoffee wrote: »

Pretty much. He goes to work with my husband every day. Cinema is about the only place he doesn't go with us.

We leave him outside the supermarket.

What does your husband work at? What does the dog do, where does he be during work?? Not being nosey, just wondering as in my job or my wife's we couldn't bring a dog.
Growing up in the countryside we always had a dog, only time he ever came with us was if he needed to go to the vet. Often went away for the day and he'd still be there when we got home, jumping and lepping when we'd get back. It was his way of telling us he'd missed us, that he appreciated us.