All Ireland Under 21 Hurling Championship 2017

blackcard

Majority of decisions favouring Limerick?

zetecescort

blackcard wrote: »

Majority of decisions favouring Limerick?

I'm biased but yeah imo. Like i said, limerick will win this anyway. Our touch is poor and our forwards are struggling to win much ball.

Mantis Toboggan

zetecescort wrote: »

Limerick the better team but feckin hell the ref is some homer

Too bad they've nobody who can put the ball over the bar.

Mahony0509

The ref may aswell throw on a green jersey. Cork playing against 16.

mountgomery burns

Limerick needed this game, probably had it too soft up to now.

AnMoralltach

Mahony0509 wrote: »

The ref may aswell throw on a green jersey. Cork playing against 16.

You're being biased enough there, some stupid fouls from Cork where they should know better

Mahony0509

AnMoralltach wrote: »

You're being biased enough there, some stupid fouls from Cork where they should know better

Hes out for Declan Dalton. Im not being biased at all. The standard of reffing is shocking.

Mantis Toboggan

Would be shocked if Limerick won the all Ireland, extremely average. Don't think they've scored from play in the second half.

PTH2009

Congrats Limerick but made hard work of it

Semis
Derry vs Kilkenny
Limerick vs Galway

mountgomery burns

PTH2009 wrote: »

Congrats Limerick but made hard work of it

Semis
Derry vs Kilkenny
Limerick vs Galway

Are Galway not playing Kilkenny or is that in the minor?

nice_guy80

derry will give the cats a good game

blackcard

mountgomery burns wrote: »

PTH2009 wrote: »

Congrats Limerick but made hard work of it

Semis
Derry vs Kilkenny
Limerick vs Galway

Are Galway not playing Kilkenny or is that in the minor?

At minor

Mahony0509

https://twitter.com/11larky/status/890296772953874432

JaffaP

A woeful display from the Ref. Worst I've seen in a long time.

Limerick certainly the better team, but didn't play well. Seems a poor U-21 Grade this year, most matches have been of very limited quality.

LMK

Powder puff game between Limerick & Cork.. no intensity.. Limerick just about deserved to win, Cork had enough possession but weren't able to capitalise..
Referee gave a lot to Limerick.. don't think I'll travel to watch the remaining game/games live...

carq

Mahony0509 wrote: »

The ref may aswell throw on a green jersey. Cork playing against 16.

Karma Baby

danganabu

blackcard wrote: »

I think refs have given up on blowing for steps and throwing the ball, all counties getting away with it. Seriously needs to be addressed.

And when they do they are lambasted, its the inconsistency thats the issue.

citykat

nice_guy80 wrote: »

derry will give the cats a good game

The hurling mightn't be as close.

dastardly00

citykat wrote: »

The hurling mightn't be as close.

That's probably what Wexford thought back in the AI semi-final in 2013 when they were playing Antrim...

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/antrim-shock-wexford-to-book-an-historic-first-appearance-in-u-21-final-1.1505192

paulie21

Double header in Thurles on August 19th. Very unfair on Derry but seems to be common practice in recent years

Mulbert

paulie21 wrote:

Double header in Thurles on August 19th. Very unfair on Derry but seems to be common practice in recent years

Why is it very unfair on Derry? Would have thought thurles would be a stadium any aspiring hurling team would love to play in. Better than playing in Parnell Park, Tullamore or another neutral pitch inbetween!

paulie21

Don't know wouldn't like traveling 4 or 5 hours extra than my opponents

danganabu

paulie21 wrote: »

Don't know wouldn't like traveling 4 or 5 hours extra than my opponents

Derry actually wanted to play in Thurles and will be travelling the day before.

paulie21

danganabu wrote: »

paulie21 wrote: »

Don't know wouldn't like traveling 4 or 5 hours extra than my opponents

Derry actually wanted to play in Thurles and will be travelling the day before.

That's fair enough so

dastardly00

12 minutes gone in the first semi-final, KK lead 3-02 to 0-02

dastardly00

This is getting hard to watch

nice_guy80

delighted for Derry getting to play in Thurles

game is one sided but at least they give hurling a go up there, and do quite well considering how few clubs they have

PTH2009

This is going to be a massacre something has to be done about this

Id put the Ulster champions into the B championship. Munster and Leinster champs into the semis. QF1 Munster losing finalists vs Leinster losing finalists (winner into semis). QF2 QF1 loser vs Galway (winner into Semis)

dastardly00

5-06 to 0-03. Only 22 minutes gone.
KK already emptying the bench.

Hammer Archer

I'd wager that Derry (and all other Ulster teams) would find it difficult in the B championship. This sort of tanking doesn't do either team any good.

dastardly00

KK have missed two absolute sitters so they could very well have 7 goals.

red_diesel

I can't understand why they don't do opendraw at u21 level. Is it any wonder Galway have so many titles getting straight to a semi each year. Put Cork or Tipp in the same position year in year out and they'd have much more u21 titles than they currently do. Derry v kk at the moment is a joke.

Gentleman Off The Pitch

Hopefully Kilkenny will stop going for goals

Shpudnik

5-12 to 0-04. It's hard to watch

coco0981

Eddie Brennan should be telling kk forwards at half time to tap the ball over the bar in second half. No point in destroying Derry, it's hard enough for hurling to survive up there I'd say

Bonniedog

coco0981 wrote: »

Eddie Brennan should be telling kk forwards at half time to tap the ball over the bar in second half. No point in destroying Derry, it's hard enough for hurling to survive up there I'd say

Brennan was visibly annoyed when Cats missed a point chance when 19 ahead! Do you seriously think he will be telling them to take it easy? Players are playing for a place in an AI final. Why should they hold back? The disgraceful neglect of hurling in Ulster is not the responsibility of some young fella from Bennetsbridge.

Anyway, it is surely time to exclude Ulster from the main underage competitions. An open draw at least needs to be introduced to deal with the glaring mismatches and anomalies we see every year.

Mantis Toboggan

Must be no development of hurling up the north, awful stuff.

dastardly00

Hammer Archer wrote: »

I'd wager that Derry (and all other Ulster teams) would find it difficult in the B championship. This sort of tanking doesn't do either team any good.

I would imagine that either of the Meath & Kerry teams who played in the match before this in the U21B semi-final would think they would do a better job than Derry against KK.

Burial.

Some of the Derry lads are striking the ball like u12s. Absolutely brutal. Something has to be done to the system in place.

coco0981

Bonniedog wrote: »

Brennan was visibly annoyed when Cats missed a point chance when 19 ahead! Do you seriously think he will be telling them to take it easy? Players are playing for a place in an SI final. Why should they hold back? The disgraceful neglect of hurling in Ulster is not the responsibility of some young fella from Bennetsbridge.

Anyway, it is surely time to exclude Ulster from the main underage competitions. An open draw at least needs to be introduced to deal with the glaring mismatches and anomalies we see every year.

100% agree it's the fault of the format, shows how ridiculous it is

Not the fault of a young lad from Bennettsbridge at all. But destroying a team for the sake of it is belittling

GalwayMark

Can any provincial die-hards justify the provincial series after watching this monstrosity of a game?

coco0981

To be fair though kk seem to be taking their points now, now driving through for goals

Hammer Archer

coco0981 wrote: »

100% agree it's the fault of the format, shows how ridiculous it is

Not the fault of a young lad from Bennettsbridge at all. But destroying a team for the sake of it is belittling

But it's for the sake of getting a place in the team for the All Ireland final. You wouldn't expect the KK defenders to just stop playing and let Derry get some easy goals so why would you expect KK forwards to ease off?

coco0981

Hammer Archer wrote: »

But it's for the sake of getting a place in the team for the All Ireland final. You wouldn't expect the KK defenders to just stop playing and let Derry get some easy goals so why would you expect KK forwards to ease off?

How much do you honestly think will be read into a kk forward tapping the ball over the bar rather than scoring a 7th goal against Derry, especially if the message has been given to do exactly that

Hammer Archer

coco0981 wrote: »

How much do you honestly think will be read into a kk forward tapping the ball over the bar rather than scoring a 7th goal against Derry, especially if the message has been given to do exactly that

It would take an extremely foolish manager to tell your forwards not to take goal chances that are presented to them, even in a match like this. Would you expect the manager to tell his defenders to ease up on the Derry forwards?

coco0981

Hammer Archer wrote: »

It would take an extremely foolish manager to tell your forwards not to take goal chances that are presented to them, even in a match like this. Would you expect the manager to tell his defenders to ease up on the Derry forwards?

No defenders is a completely different thing. But telling your forwards to take points instead of driving through specifically looking for goals is a different thing. Only my opinion but it's a bit classless

citykat

coco0981 wrote: »

No defenders is a completely different thing. But telling your forwards to take points instead of driving through specifically looking for goals is a different thing. Only my opinion but it's a bit classless

No. Making statements like that is brainless.

Diabhal Beag

In fairness on a better day Derry are only losing by 35 points.

coco0981

citykat wrote: »

No. Making statements like that is brainless.

How so, please explain?

adrian522

I think it would show a lot more disrespect to ease off or to start not taking chances. Kilkenny only get a handful of games the entire year, this is their semi final and only chance of playing together before the All ireland final. Completely unrealistic to expect them take the foot off the gas.

You don't see the All Blacks easing up when they are winning a game or Real Madrid or whatever other dominant team you care to mention.

The issue is a system that allows this mis-match to be a semi final, don't expect Kilkenny to help gloss over this mess of a system.