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12 years for ex-shinner

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  • #352
    Persephone kindness
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    Farmer Ed wrote: »
    Not defending violence on any side here and this might be seen as an unpopular thing to say after the terrible attacks in the UK. But he sort of has a point. Yes people around the would are still being killed everyday in the name of freedom. http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-39598979
    World peace ..should be normal. You should all be pacifists. Take an oath of pacifism.


  • #353
    Persephone kindness
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    Join my movement.


  • #354
    FrancieBrady
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    Persephone kindness wrote: »
    World peace ..should be normal. You should all be pacifists. Take an oath of pacifism.

    It has nothing to do with me personally or you or what we believe.

    The truth is, killing has been a normal way to achieve aims since the dawn of time. And as we can see it is still a 'normal' way to achieve aims around the world today.


  • #355
    Farmer Ed
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    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Slightly amended that to be more precise.

    What ever. Personality I don't agree that in this day and age we should go around killing each other. But even Obama who won a Nobel peace prize ordered more drone strikes than any normal person would order takeaways. Even in ten obese lifetimes.


  • #356
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    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    And as we can see it is still a 'normal' way to achieve aims around the world today.
    uh ..no ...:confused:


  • #357
    Farmer Ed
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    Persephone kindness wrote: »
    World peace ..should be normal. You should all be pacifists. Take an oath of pacifism.

    Totally agree but all I'd like to know was the guy they were waterboarding a pacifist? If he was let's say a drug dealer. Then I would say a sentence like they got could be considered harsh. Especially if it had the effect of getting the dealer to reexamine his business model. In that case they should be just charged with being stupid enough to video it.


  • #358
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    Farmer Ed wrote: »
    Totally agree but all I'd like to know was the guy they were waterboarding a pacifist? If he was let's say a drug dealer. Then I would say a sentence like they got could be considered harsh. Especially if it had the effect of getting the dealer to reexamine his business model. In that case they should be just charged with being stupid enough to video it.
    :confused: da ****?? NO that is ..SO WEIRD

    5c58b60440827b8979a1a212495f3331.jpg


  • #359
    Persephone kindness
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    You gotta be joking! Or trolling!


  • #360
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    I think you need to take the oath Farmer ED



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  • #361
    Farmer Ed
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    I don't believe in violence. But every day in this country thousands of lives are being destroyed by drug dealers. If the guy was a drug dealer and I am not saying he was . Then yes IMO that should have been a mitigating factor in deciding the sentence. On the other hand if for example they just decided to water board the guy cos they took a personal disliking to him. Then yes lock them up and throw away the key. However locking them up may involve having to restrain them and could be viewed as borderline violence?

    Feck I'm just going g back to meditating! This is a head wrecker!


  • #362
    ohnonotgmail
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    Farmer Ed wrote: »
    I don't believe in violence. But every day in this country thousands of lives are being destroyed by drug dealers. If the guy was a drug dealer and I am not saying he was . Then yes IMO that should have been a mitigating factor in deciding the sentence. On the other hand if for example they just decided to water board the guy cos they took a personal disliking to him. Then yes lock them up and throw away the key. However locking them up may involve having to restrain them and could be viewed as borderline violence?

    Feck I'm just going g back to meditating! This is a head wrecker!


    he wasn't.


  • #363
    Farmer Ed
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    Persephone kindness wrote: »
    Not usually. No. It's unusual for people to be killed in ROI. We're lucky. Because we have learnt to be normal.

    Actually mentally ill people are being indirectly handed down death sentences every day of the week by our legal system as a result of our failure to tackle our mental health and drug problem.


  • #364
    jh79
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    Farmer Ed wrote: »
    I don't believe in violence. But every day in this country thousands of lives are being destroyed by drug dealers. If the guy was a drug dealer and I am not saying he was . Then yes IMO that should have been a mitigating factor in deciding the sentence. On the other hand if for example they just decided to water board the guy cos they took a personal disliking to him. Then yes lock them up and throw away the key. However locking them up may involve having to restrain them and could be viewed as borderline violence?

    Feck I'm just going g back to meditating! This is a head wrecker!

    He wasn't a drug dealer just a fraudster.

    On the other hand the two SF lads associated with the Hutch drug gang and were accepted by the real ira onto their wing.


  • #365
    Farmer Ed
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    he wasn't.

    In that case throw away the key.


  • #366
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    Farmer Ed wrote: »
    Actually mentally ill people are being indirectly handed down death sentences every day of the week by our legal system as a result of our failure to tackle our mental health and drug problem.
    Ok let's help them! :)


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  • #367
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    Vigilantism is just a no no ..NO


  • #368
    jh79
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    Farmer Ed wrote: »
    In that case throw away the key.

    Does it bother you that a member of SF had close ties to a known drug gang?


  • #369
    FTA69
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    Deleted User wrote: »



    Could you outline the incidents of proxy bombing carried out by "rucba"?

    Thanks.

    What do you want, a list of killings of civilians killed by the British Army and the police? It would be a long enough one. Not to mention the activities of their proxy groups in Loyalist paramilitaries that were often facilitated and directed by senior people in both of those organisations.

    Even at a local level we had people like the Glennane Gang who were serving members of the British Army and police and whose raison d'etre was murdering innocent people.

    This notion that the crown forces were somehow above deliberately killing innocent people in contrast to the dreaded Provos is a load of waffle.


  • #370
    Farmer Ed
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    jh79 wrote: »
    Does it bother you that a member of SF had close ties to a known drug gang?

    Of course I does. The drug/ mental health problem in this country is out of control and no one seams to be willing to tackle it. All the guards can do is try and cut deals in exchange for information. But inevitability the main culprits never seam to get stopped. The law and the whole system is an ass.


  • #371
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    Farmer Ed wrote: »
    Of course I does. The drug/ mental health problem in this country is out of control and no one seams to be willing to tackle it. All the guards can do is try and cut deals in exchange for information. But inevitability the main culprits never seam to get stopped. The law and the whole system is an ass.
    Ah it's not that bad ...i mean in comparison to what they are dealing with in the US and the UK ..


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  • #372
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    Everyday we don't wake up with Taoiseach Trump...it's a good day.


  • #373
    Farmer Ed
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    Persephone kindness wrote: »
    Everyday we don't wake up with Taoiseach Trump...it's a good day.

    Sure maybe putting an Indian in charge of the cowboys will sort the whole thing out.


  • #374
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    Farmer Ed wrote: »
    Sure maybe putting an Indian in charge of the cowboys will sort the whole thing out.
    Scratch an SF sympathizer and you find a racist underneath...always


  • #375
    Farmer Ed
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    Persephone kindness wrote: »
    Scratch an SF sympathizer and you find a racist underneath...always

    I'm not an anything sympathiser. Couldn't care less about any of that stuff. But I think you might want to look up the history of the blue shirts and their links the the red shirts and the black shirts? State terrorism is still terrorism. I don't make a distinction .


  • #376
    Farmer Ed
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    Persephone kindness wrote: »
    Scratch an SF sympathizer and you find a racist underneath...always

    You might want to take a look at this.

    http://www.lookleftonline.org/2010/08/fine-gaels-fascist-roots/


  • #377
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    Farmer Ed wrote: »
    You might want to take a look at this.

    http://www.lookleftonline.org/2010/08/fine-gaels-fascist-roots/
    You are racist NOW though.


  • #378
    Farmer Ed
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    Persephone kindness wrote: »
    You are racist NOW though.

    What makes you think I am racist?
    Unusually enough for an Irish person, I have black white Jewish, Muslim , Hindu, protestant, Catholic and gay friends. So how exactly does that me so how exactly dose that make me racist?

    Could it be because I don't support the campaign to make halal pork available in all super value shops? Give me a break!


  • #379
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    Farmer Ed wrote: »
    What makes you think I am racist?
    Unusually enough for an Irish person, I have black white Jewish, Muslim , Hindu, protestant, Catholic and gay friends. So how exactly does that me so how exactly dose that make me racist?

    Could it be because I don't support the campaign to make halal pork available in all super value shops? Give me a break!
    I now also think you are crazy.


  • #380
    Persephone kindness
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    Or over zealous any how. I don't know what you are on about ED...gonna go now. Bye :)


  • #381
    Farmer Ed
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    Persephone kindness wrote: »
    I now also think you are crazy.

    Watch this if you are interested in studying the history of racism in this country you might find it enlightening.

    https://youtu.be/rBdBMso58Fs


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  • #382
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    Farmer Ed wrote: »
    Watch this if you are interested in studying the history of racism in this country you might find it enlightening.

    https://youtu.be/rBdBMso58Fs
    Well it didn't help you did it?

    Whatever your educational resources are they have led to referring to Leo Varadkar simply as 'an indian in charge of cowboys' and supporting SF. So they can't be up to much. Whatever you have been reading you might fancy a change.


  • #383
    Farmer Ed
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    Persephone kindness wrote: »
    Well it didn't help you did it?

    Whatever your educational resources are they have led to referring to Leo Varadkar simply as 'an indian in charge of cowboys' and supporting SF. So they can't be up to much. Whatever you have been reading you might fancy a change.

    Leo is of part Indian origin. I personally see that as a positive thing. I am not a member of any political party but honestly any of the main political party's can trace their roots back to pretty dodgy stuff.
    https://www.google.ie/search?q=the+blue+shirts&client=ms-android-h3g-ie&prmd=ivmn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwih9rWslr3UAhXWFsAKHfSvA0MQ_AUICSgB&biw=360&bih=511#imgrc=7wTEifF8PXHmgM:


  • #384
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    Especially sin fein ..

    We best vote Labour and Mick wallace then...plus that hair!


  • #385
    Persephone kindness
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    Labour was Founded by Big jim james larkin ...pretty cool!

    Lockout_Jim-Larkin.jpg

    Achieved a lot more for workers rights than SF or FG.


  • #386
    Persephone kindness
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    Plus his sister was like Delia Larken ...she was a founding secretary of the Irish Women Workers' Union She founded the Irish Workers' Choir in 1912 and set up dance, drama and Irish-language course in Liberty Hall. She also set up the Irish Workers' Dramatic Society in this year. However, in 1914 Delia Larkin was threatened with legal action by Lady Gregory for using her play, The Workhouse Ward, without permission. Delia had hoped to raise money with the play to help victims of the Lockout


  • #387
    Mrfrosty
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    Hurley deserved everything he got!
    How much help did gardai give him to remove all the con artistry hurley did, from online media?


  • #388
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    Mrfrosty wrote: »
    Hurley deserved everything he got!
    How much help did gardai give him to remove all the con artistry hurley did, from online media?
    And Lady Gregory sued DELIA LARKIN ...instead of letting her use a play to raise funds for the lock out .KICK HER BUTT :mad:


  • #389
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    It only took you 3 posts to get so angry Mr Frosty. You ok?


  • #390
    Farmer Ed
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    Persephone kindness wrote: »
    Especially sin fein ..

    We best vote Labour and Mick wallace then...plus that hair!

    Labour have historical links to paramilitarys also but in effect have become FG light. FF have become their lovers. Im pretty sure SF would get in to bed with them too if they
    weren't all so afraid of catching an STD. Mick obviously must have had a falling out with the barber. The reality is as a nation we will be conditioned in to voting what ever way the most successful PR machine manipulates us to vote.


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  • #391
    Persephone kindness
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    She ain't no LADAY!


  • #392
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    Farmer Ed wrote: »
    Labour have historical links to paramilitarys also but in effect have become FG light. FF have become their lovers. Im pretty sure SF would get in to bed with them too if they
    weren't all so afraid of catching an STD. Mick obviously must have had a falling out with the barber. The reality is as a nation we will be conditioned in to voting what ever way the most successful PR machine manipulates us to vote.
    They don't have ethno facist murderers drug dealers rapists and peados in their party now though. SF do.


  • #393
    Mrfrosty
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    Persephone kindness wrote: »
    And Lady Gregory sued DELIA LARKIN ...instead of letting her use a play to raise funds for the lock out .KICK HER BUTT :mad:

    I'm grand thanks!
    He, Alexander Hurley deserved everything he got!


  • #394
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    Hurley is the type of person that joins SF ironically. And the SF guy ...should never be let out. EVIL.


  • #395
    Mrfrosty
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    Persephone kindness wrote: »
    They don't have ethno facist murderers drug dealers rapists and peados in their party now though. SF do.

    Ha who's the angry one? :)


  • #396
    Persephone kindness
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    Mrfrosty wrote: »
    Ha who's the angry one? :)
    Sinn Fein.


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  • #397
    Mrfrosty
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    Persephone kindness wrote: »
    Sinn Fein.

    This isn't sinn feins argument, dowdall got 12 years because of the guns used in the regancy, and gardai used poor Alexander for their goal of getting him jailed anyway, he has done the crime, he'll do the time not sinn fein.


  • #398
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    You know a lot about this....

    Funny how no other party seem embroiled in gangland war fare or violence in the LAST 10 YEARS just one ...SF are kinda scummy.


  • #399
    Farmer Ed
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    Persephone kindness wrote: »
    They don't have ethno facist murderers drug dealers rapists and peados in their party now though. SF do.

    Oh really? Throw enough money at any terrorist and you can turn him in to a democrat. Would have saved a lot of lives up north if someone had figured that one out sooner.

    https://www.google.ie/amp/s/ansionnachfionn.com/2011/08/23/the-labour-party-and-the-official-ira-they-havent-gone-away-you-know/amp/


  • #400
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    Mrfrosty wrote: »
    This isn't sinn feins argument, dowdall got 12 years because of the guns used in the regancy, and gardai used poor Alexander for their goal of getting him jailed anyway, he has done the crime, he'll do the time not sinn fein.
    the cross dresser?


  • #401
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    Farmer Ed wrote: »
    Oh really? Throw enough money at any terrorist and you can turn him in to a democrat. Would have saved a lot of lives up north if someone had figured that one out sooner.

    https://www.google.ie/amp/s/ansionnachfionn.com/2011/08/23/the-labour-party-and-the-official-ira-they-havent-gone-away-you-know/amp/
    Oh SF did ok money wise plenty of donors here and abroad.


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