The big E3 discussion thread

kunst nugget · 14-06-2017 10:50am

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Any e that thinks bubgie are paying to put a Playstation logo in their advert doesn't know how business works. Sony is paying to have that in the adverts.

I heard that Sony gave Bungie a wedgie and was going to stick their head down the toilet and flush it before they started crying and said they'd give Sony exclusive content if Sony would stop bullying them.

SolvableKnave · 14-06-2017 10:50am

SeantheMan wrote: »

On an E3 note, none of my E3 dreams came true.

Was hoping against hope for maybe something related to Tenchu, or Onimusha or more Death Stranding or something big from Blizzard.....maybe some Shadow Drops....like DOWNLOAD NOW .
Most of the main games I'm interested in seem to be 2018, and most of em were already a known quantity.

Don't Blizzard usually keep their big announcements for Blizzcon? and then re-announce / show off at the following E3?

They are currently hiring for a brand new Diablo (4?) game, with some of the job descriptions emphasising multiplayer/MMO experience. Personally, would love to see them move Diablo into the Destiny style of game. Just can't see them going full MMO on it, as the MMO genre, to me, seems to be, not dieing, but in limbo a little. And if there is one company that could revive it, it's Blizzard. I still think it'll be Destinyesque.

kunst nugget wrote: »

He should get himself a PS4 then… :P

I'd be surprised if he doesn't have one already, unless his contract states he's not allowed.

kunst nugget · 14-06-2017 10:52am

Jerichoholic wrote: »

Uncharted as amazing looking as it is, just gets really boring after a while.

It does get a bit of life near the end apart from those fecking annoying

exploding corpses

but it feels too little, too late at that stage. Might have been a more enjoyable experience if they halved the time it took to complete but it felt like a slog at times.

Retr0gamer · 14-06-2017 10:58am

SeantheMan wrote: »

I stopped halfway through 3 because it got boring, but in saying that I started 4 yesterday...because it was on sale on PSN.

Found 4 a hell of a lot more boring than 3. Enjoy!

earthwormjack · 14-06-2017 11:03am

Penn wrote: »

Think that's the rebooted one from 2013 for 360 and PS3. That figure would also include the Definitive Editions then released for XB1 and PS4.

Rise of the Tomb Raider hasn't sold half that.
PS4 - 1.69m
360 - 0.34m
XB1 - 1.51m
Windows - 0.15m
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/82906/rise-of-the-tomb-raider/

Vgchartz are not reliable at all from what I remember unless they update their figures months later from official sources. Rise of the tomb raider is at over 1.4 million on steam.

Stone Deaf 4evr · 14-06-2017 11:07am

What conferences are left?

Jerichoholic · 14-06-2017 11:09am

None left. All game demos now.

super_furry · 14-06-2017 11:11am

Jesus, missed the Metroid 2 remake news after the Nintendo show yesterday. No wonder they came down so hard on AMR2.

ERG89 · 14-06-2017 11:14am

super_furry wrote:

No wonder they came down so hard on AMR2.

Not like you can get AMR2 on anything but a PC.

irishman86 · 14-06-2017 11:29am

Jerichoholic wrote: »

Uncharted as amazing looking as it is, just gets really boring after a while.

I disagree, I think they made it the perfect length

biggebruv · 14-06-2017 11:50am

speaking of tomb raider where was part 3?
rumoured to be called shadow of the tomb raider and is well into development

loved rise TR great action adventure game imo

kunst nugget · 14-06-2017 11:57am

biggebruv wrote: »

speaking of tomb raider where was part 3?
rumoured to be called shadow of the tomb raider and is well into development

loved rise TR great action adventure game imo

Is it called that because the poor sales of Rise means its a shadow of its former self?

jcd5971 · 14-06-2017 11:59am

johnny_ultimate wrote:

We should allow for the fact that Breath of the Wild is better than the entire back catalogues of some major consoles, but even without that they're still bringing the A-game and then some

I don't know what drugs your on but oh boy the must be strong

kunst nugget · 14-06-2017 12:01pm

jcd5971 wrote: »

I don't know what drugs your on but oh boy the must be strong

He's just high of life. Life and nitrous oxide.

jcd5971 · 14-06-2017 12:08pm

Generic Dreadhead wrote:

Wait, was this a real sentence said without a hint of irony by him or are you being sarcastic?

This is what in common parlance is called **** of the bull.

Ould Mr Brennan · 14-06-2017 12:09pm

What did people think of skull and bones? I taught it looked amazing but I'm hugely skeptical of a ubisoft downgrade

14-06-2017 12:13pm

Ould Mr Brennan wrote: »

What did people think of skull and bones? I taught it looked amazing but I'm hugely skeptical of a ubisoft downgrade

It's a decent market to attack, not that many pirate games to be fair.
Graphically it looks great I agree, and yes approach with Caution as this is Ubisoft.

Stone Deaf 4evr · 14-06-2017 12:15pm

Ould Mr Brennan wrote: »

What did people think of skull and bones? I taught it looked amazing but I'm hugely skeptical of a ubisoft downgrade

I'm just amazed that no-one has done a meme with a screenshot of skull and bones on one side and sea of thieves on the other with 'typical ubisoft E3 graphical downgrade' as the tag.

Penn · 14-06-2017 12:26pm

Ould Mr Brennan wrote: »

What did people think of skull and bones? I taught it looked amazing but I'm hugely skeptical of a ubisoft downgrade

A potential graphical downgrade doesn't bother me, my biggest concern is what is the proposed game model. Will it be For Honor with ships, or will there be some form of single player cruising the open seas and attacking NPC ships?

Venom · 14-06-2017 12:36pm

Penn wrote: »

A potential graphical downgrade doesn't bother me, my biggest concern is what is the proposed game model. Will it be For Honor with ships, or will there be some form of single player cruising the open seas and attacking NPC ships?

I think they mentioned a single player element but I reckon the focus will be on multi like so many of Ubisoft games these days. As much as I loved Black Flag I can't see myself getting Skull and Bones if its only ship to ship combat as that will get old fast.

Penn · 14-06-2017 12:38pm

Venom wrote: »

I think they mentioned a single player element but I reckon the focus will be on multi like so many of Ubisoft games these days. As much as I loved Black Flag I can't see myself getting Skull and Bones if its only ship to ship combat as that will get old fast.

Yeah if there was a single-player it'd need some exploration aspects or similar.

Benzino · 14-06-2017 1:45pm

Just caught up with the Sony press conference. It was good in the sense it was just games, and little waffling, but most of the big hitters we already knew about. I guess this was bound to happen as Sony reveal their games a good while before they are released, eventually that was going to catch up with them.

Sony are still developing the most first party titles though compared to MS and potentially Nintendo, we just knew about them all. Need to watch Nintendo's conference next.

Yet another year without L4D3 reveal

Valve are dead to me.

heebusjeebus · 14-06-2017 1:49pm

So Destiny 2 will only be 30fps on consoles.
Rule of thumb seems to that framerates are CPU limited and resolution is limited by GPU.
Hopefully the next gen of consoles will have beefier CPU's as framereates affect gameplay a lot more than resolution.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1390460

earthwormjack · 14-06-2017 1:52pm

heebusjeebus wrote: »

So Destiny 2 will only be 30fps on consoles.
Rule of thumb seems to that framerates are CPU limited and resolution is limited by GPU.
Hopefully the next gen of consoles will have beefier CPU's as framereates affect gameplay a lot more than resolution.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1390460

Yeah, the new GPU in the iterative consoles will help some some titles to 4k or checkerboard 4k. But that crappy Jaguar CPU is gonna be a bottleneck pushing bigger games to 60fps.

Retr0gamer · 14-06-2017 1:54pm

Just saw the Wolfenstein 2 trailer. Looks amazing.

14-06-2017 1:54pm

heebusjeebus wrote: »

So Destiny 2 will only be 30fps on consoles.
Rule of thumb seems to that framerates are CPU limited and resolution is limited by GPU.
Hopefully the next gen of consoles will have beefier CPU's as framereates affect gameplay a lot more than resolution.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1390460

I'd expect the reason is Destiny 2 is purely multiplayer focused.

Xbox One X compared to Xbox 1
PS4 compared to PS4 Pro

It it was 60fps on the higher spec consoles I'd expect them to be at an advantage to anyone using a standard console.

Only way they could work around this is two have two separate lobbies but I'm sure that would only segregate the user base.

Benzino · 14-06-2017 1:55pm

heebusjeebus wrote: »

So Destiny 2 will only be 30fps on consoles.
Rule of thumb seems to that framerates are CPU limited and resolution is limited by GPU.
Hopefully the next gen of consoles will have beefier CPU's as framereates affect gameplay a lot more than resolution.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1390460

Even then, I still wouldn't count on getting 60fps. People are used to 30fps, and it's really not a big issue. I doubt there are many sales lost due to a game running at 30fps.

With that in mind, developers will look at the extra power they have, and I'd imagine most will opt to have more characters on screen, better physics, better AI, better animations, effects etc etc rather than having 60fps.

Sure, more power gives you the ability to run the game faster, but it can also be used to do more stuff instead.

heebusjeebus · 14-06-2017 1:56pm

M!Ck^ wrote: »

I'd expect the reason is Destiny 2 is purely multiplayer focused.

Xbox One X compared to Xbox 1
PS4 compared to PS4 Pro

It it was 60fps on the higher spec consoles I'd expect them to be at an advantage to anyone using a standard console.

Only way they could work around this is two have two separate lobbies but I'm sure that would only segregate the user base.

There is plenty of speculation on that NEOGaf thread but one interesting reply talked about the peer to peer nature of the multiplayer. The consoles CPUs just can not cope with the demand for such a high update rate.

kunst nugget · 14-06-2017 2:01pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Just saw the Wolfenstein 2 trailer. Looks amazing.

Just watched it there too. Can't wait to play that.

14-06-2017 2:03pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Just saw the Wolfenstein 2 trailer. Looks amazing.

MachineGames are a fantastic development team

Here is the list of games they developed which are all excellent

The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay
The Darkness
Wolfenstein: The New Order
Wolfenstein: The Old Blood

They also created a free official mission pack last year for Quake 1, Completed it in one sitting (Top notch)

Quake: Dimension of the Past

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