Legality of AK47/AKM/74 for shooting

AzcuzCoz

Hi,

I live alone in a rural area (Monaghan) and also have properties in Waterford and Swords in Dublin, both owned by my parents.

I like clay pigeon shooting, and am always at Castle Leslie and other ranges. I also have a personal range.

For my personal range and for other use (hunting, though not hunting animals, and self-defence), I would like a Kalashnikov rifle. I already have a Remmington 870 shotgun that is licensed.

I'll soon be 19.

Is it legal to possess a Kalashnikov for personal use? Why/why not? I'm not up on the legality of guns in this country.

Advice would be appreciated, thanks.

cavan shooter

This is going tI get interesting real quick, however..........A sure give it a go apply for it as a restricted license and let us know how you go.

Out of interest and what would your "good reason" be for an AK"

AzcuzCoz

For clay pigeon shooting and hunting, though not hunting animals. Is it restricted is all I want to know?

cavan shooter

AzcuzCoz wrote:

For clay pigeon shooting and hunting, though not hunting animals. Is it restricted is all I want to know?

Yes.

AzcuzCoz

Why? I honestly don't know what harm it could be in Monaghan!

German pointer

AzcuzCoz wrote:

For clay pigeon shooting and hunting, though not hunting animals. Is it restricted is all I want to know?

What do you hunt that is not an animal?

cavan shooter

AzcuzCoz wrote:

Why? I honestly don't know what harm it could be in Monaghan!

Have you a good metal detector.....😆

ianob7

AzcuzCoz wrote:

I live alone in a rural area (Monaghan) and also have properties in Waterford and Swords in Dublin, both owned by my parents.

Thought you were studying in Trinity?? That's a hell of a commute in the mornings from monaghan I'd say.

AzcuzCoz

Not when you leave early in the morning. Why is it restricted in Monaghan?

Grizzly 45

Ok .....Well if this isnt a urine take..Answer is NO of it is a genuine select fire AK.Answer is proably you might get an AK semi auto lookalike.BUT be prepared for a loong fight with your cheif superintendent on ,especially a design like this , of the "Idontlikedelookof datnow!"clause.Also you will need to be aware that the EU will proably move these into Cat A prohibited with a mag capacity above 10 shots.You will be able to get an exemption to own the higher mag capacity but Id advise taking up IPSC outside the ROI to justify possesion.We'll tip our hats to you if you do get it.But be well prepared for a long battle and have your facts in order to convince your cheif
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Effects

AzcuzCoz wrote: »

For clay pigeon shooting and hunting, though not hunting animals. Is it restricted is all I want to know?

What else, apart from animals are you hunting?

cavan shooter

AzcuzCoz wrote:

Not when you leave early in the morning. Why is it restricted in Monaghan?

Monaghan men and Cavan men are dodgy fekers...if you lived in Dublin it might be dodgy too. I think you could get a GSG 9 MP 5 lookalike in Kerry though.....

AzcuzCoz

It's because of the IRA in Monaghan isn't it. Thought so. Anyway, what's the harm in keeping it secure in a rural area of Monaghan?

ianob7

Grizzly 45 wrote:

Ok .....Well if this isnt a urine take..Answer is NO of it is a genuine select fire AK.Answer is proably you might get an AK semi auto lookalike.BUT be prepared for a loong fight with your cheif superintendent on ,especially a design like this , of the "Idontlikedelookof datnow!"clause.Also you will need to be aware that the EU will proably move these into Cat A prohibited with a mag capacity above 10 shots.You will be able to get an exemption to own the higher mag capacity but Id advise taking up IPSC outside the ROI to justify possesion.We'll tip our hats to you if you do get it.But be well prepared for a long battle and have your facts in order to convince your cheif .

I believe this is a urine take unfortunately.. All he's been doing since joining is extracting urine left right & centre.

AzcuzCoz

Effects wrote: »

What else, apart from animals are you hunting?

Plants.

AzcuzCoz

ianob7 wrote: »

I believe this is a urine take unfortunately.. All he's been doing since joining is extracting urine left right & centre.

I'm honestly not.

Pkiernan

Clay pigeon shooting with an AK ...

I love Sean nos

You'll be fine OP. Get the gun you want, AK47 or whatever and walk into the big Garda station in Monaghan town and show them it. Be grand.

AzcuzCoz

Ah here, I just asked a simple question, that's all.

cavan shooter

So long as you have a good reason or in the case of your proposed fire arm A ****ing Good reason, are of sound mind with no intemperate habits and have a safe place to store it...work away....let us know how you get on

Gravelly

Tis hard enough to hit clays with a shotgun, you'd want to be fairly handy to break them with a Kalashnikov I'd imagine. There would a lot of lads diving for cover too.

Donnielighto

AzcuzCoz wrote: »

Ah here, I just asked a simple question, that's all.

Well the simple answer is no.

I think it's cos it's automatic although not sure.

German pointer

AzcuzCoz wrote:

For my personal range and for other use (hunting, though not hunting animals, and self-defence), I would like a Kalashnikov rifle. I already have a Remmington 870 shotgun that is licensed.

Hunting plants, a personal range and self defense. Is that not enough "good reason" 😅😅😅

Cass

You say you don't know the ins and outs of the law, but know enough to license a shotgun and know that there is a restricted and unrestricted class.

So here are some simple answers and then the thread is closed pending review by the mods.

• AKs (full auto) are illegal. No other reasoning for it other than they are.
• AK semi auto or clones are restricted, but good luck trying to get that past your Chief Super.
• Without membership to a range you're at nothing.
• A "personal range". Do you have range authorisation as per the Act/SI? If not then you have no range and are illegally target shooting outside a range.
• If you have range authorisation then you know enough about the law to answer your own question.
• "Not hunting animals". Again there is no other type of hunting, so that conversation ends here.
• Training for "self defence". If it's with a firearm, it's RTKBA and that's also illegal and out of bounds for this forum.

Cass

The OP is a serial troll and as such the thread will remain closed.

For any future threads of this nature, even if you think there might be a hint of genuine naivety to it, please report the thread and a Mod will deal with it.

Thanks.