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Dublin GAA Discussion Thread - Capital Punishment
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gormdubhgorm wrote: »Won't be watching that Mayo match still baffles /annoys me why Shane Ryan was taken off when he was flying.
Probably still would have lost to Kerry but still....
Not doubting you as haven't watched it or read anything about it since, but my recollection was that Shane was moved back into defence to try to protect the lead, and that Mayo then dominated midfield in his absence?
Also that subbing Vaughan for Mossie was key as Mossie would have scored at least one of the placed balls Vaughan missed.
And that, as Foresst gump said, is all I have to say about that
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Not doubting you as haven't watched it or read anything about it since, but my recollection was that Shane was moved back into defence to try to protect the lead, and that Mayo then dominated midfield in his absence?
Also that subbing Vaughan for Mossie was key as Mossie would have scored at least one of the placed balls Vaughan missed.
And that, as Foresst gump said, is all I have to say about that
http://www.the42.ie/dublin-mayo-retro-liveblog-2006-2980792-Sep2016/
I just checked to make sure:
Ryan was removed @ 4:20PM
Sub: Dublin bring in Declan Lally for Shane Ryan.
It was only at about the 60 minute mark Ryan was taken off in other words.
I was raging for the sake of ten minutes
Funny in my head I would have guessed much earlier.
You were spot on about Vaughan coming on and missing shots
I had forgotten all about that.
A bit more digging confirms it:
https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2006/0827/208454-mayo/Mark Vaughan entered the fray for Tomas Quinn and came within inches of giving Dublin the lead when he struck the post and Mayo went straight back up the pitch where McDonald gave his side the advantage once more.Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.
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gormdubhgorm wrote: »http://www.the42.ie/dublin-mayo-retro-liveblog-2006-2980792-Sep2016/
I just checked to make sure:
Ryan was removed @ 4:20PM
Sub: Dublin bring in Declan Lally for Shane Ryan.
It was only at about the 60 minute mark Ryan was taken off in other words.
I was raging for the sake of ten minutes
Funny in my head I would have guessed much earlier.
You were spot on about Vaughan coming on and missing shots
I had forgotten all about that.
A bit more digging confirms it:
https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2006/0827/208454-mayo/Mark Vaughan entered the fray for Tomas Quinn and came within inches of giving Dublin the lead when he struck the post and Mayo went straight back up the pitch where McDonald gave his side the advantage once more.
You forgot about Vaughan?
It was the story of the day. That's like not remembering Ray Cosgrove when discussing 2002.
EDIT: Wasn't Mark part Mayo too?0 -
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BonnieSituation wrote: »You forgot about Vaughan?
It was the story of the day. That's like not remembering Ray Cosgrove when discussing 2002.
EDIT: Wasn't Mark part Mayo too?
I think in tramatic events some people might block out the worse moments!
It must be what happened to me!
Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.
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So it's going to be hard to name this team. I think we'll have some surprises. One or two
I keep thinking we'll see Bastic on the bench. But the closer to the day we get the less I think it.
My usual midfiled concerns are still there but not as much as before for some reason, I think it's the flexibility in the half-backs like McCarthy and O'Sullivan, additionally Kilkenny can play there. I never liked McCarthy at midfield, possibly because outside of Cluxton I think he's Dublin's most important player and Imo hands down the best half-back Dublin have ever had in my time watching football.
However he's played some good games there for Dublin recently and it allows him to push up and interact more with the forwards.
I predict Boyle and himself getting to know each other better on the day if they are closer together. He'll certainly aim to keep Higgins and Boyle more focused on defense.
Mayo are much improved on last year imo. Some of their forwards are getting a bit more respect out there like Doherthy, they are more confident and established, it took some amount of time all the same, the same lad appeared as if he couldn't kick snow of a rope on the big day three years ago.
Andy Moran is playing great stuff, but we've had a good look at him. I'd imagine a smaller nippy defender will be put on him again to get out in front of him.
At midfiled I wouldn't be surprised if MDMA started, I don't know if he's fit but he's a great option for AOS. I suggested before the last Mayo game that AOS could look at MDMAs ability to play at midfiled, run the ball and track back to help the full backs, he did it against Kerry and Mayo last year. It wasn't exactly how it happened but AOS did something similar in the Kerry replay, those basketballers are handy in the square.
If AOS plays his own game then I think he can be picked up. Dublin don't have a Donaghy for him to track, that's unfortunate in many ways, but at the same time AOS won't be able to pick up any of the Dublin forwards that started against Tyrone and follow them around and have anything left in the tank for contributing eleswhere for long, he could do it with Rock maybe. That would suit us
TBH I think he'd be a bad choice FB for Mayo against Dublin, I hope they play him there. Either way a fit MDMA has IMO had the measure of him more times than not.
Mayo have also found a home for Higgins, it's great for them as playing him at corner back on lads like Andrews and Rock has given Dublin many scores against Mayo. I think they've decided not to have him man marking and he's playing to his strengths.
So with Mayo's improved A Moran, Doherty. The half-back line looking rebuilt, we are looking at a different animal to last year.
Rochford has brought more out of these players, found better homes for them.
What about the Dubs. This year we are starting with our best HB in midfield and he's doing well.
Why? possibly McCaffery being back with the team now and Lowdnes stepping up. So that's a big improvement IMO.
Mannion and O'Callaghan. Mannion's over all contribution is vastly improved, he will require one of Mayo's best on the day, seeing who can turn the dual in their favour will be critical IMO.
Plus he's a great eye for goal, you wouldn't want to leave him behind you.
O'Callaghan, who knows here, he might be marked out of the game, that said his movement and understanding of the half forward position is very promising, he seems to have a lot of natural ability, I think he'll be a great Dublin player I hope he plays well, I honestly don't know who Mayo will put on him. I don't think he suits Keegan, like Brogan he doesn't seem to react to niggly stuff at all, his jink might be too nippy for Higgins and Boyle, I think Harrison might be given the job and he's capable of keeping most quiet.
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O'Gara would be a serious option for that Mayo back line IMO. If he can get his shooting boots on I can't see a Mayo defender that's strong enough for him.
The starting midfield will have a significant impact on the game imo.
The temptation to throw MDMA on late in the game must be significant for Gavin. It's one area that i don't think Mayo have an answer for.
There's something about the fluid movement of the team lately that makes me almost certain that MDMA, Brogan, Connelly won't start.
Outside chance that Howard will be on the bench, and further out again Schutte. I think Howard would trouble Mayo late in the game.
I think it will be a hard game, both sets of forwards are going to face much tougher defenses.
Both sets of charging half-backs will be tracked very hard.
Like the last day my main wish is that Cian O'Sullivan plays well. He plays the sweeper position differently to the Mayo lads, hopefully he holds things together and watches for Keegan, Boyle and Higgins running through.
In my mind I see multiple of outcomes. They will all go out the window one we get punched in the face on game day.
I can see Mayo winning, but I think Dublin will do it. In opposition to the current position that 15 to 15 the teams are equal, I don't agree with that. I see a number of Dublin players that are better than their Mayo equivalent. That won't win me many friends but that's my thoughts on it. That said there's not a whole lot in it, and is a team effort.
I'm 70 percent that Dublin will do it.
I hope it's not a draw, that might change though
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Not a hope in hell of O'Gara starting. He is way too unpredictible and inconsistent. He is tailor made for the last 20 miutes, when pretty much anything goes...but not the first 20, when we are still setting out our stall and we need steady hands at the wheel.
Btw, why is Philly hitting a tractor tire with a sledgehammer? And whose job is it, to source said tractor tyre and sledgehammer and bring them to training? The kit man?
https://twitter.com/DubGAAOfficial/status/9079994739425280050 -
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Not a hope in hell of O'Gara starting. He is way too unpredictible and inconsistent. He is tailor made for the last 20 miutes, when pretty much anything goes...but not the first 20, when we are still setting out our stall and we need steady hands at the wheel.
Btw, why is Philly hitting a tractor tire with a sledgehammer? And whose job is it, to source said tractor tyre and sledgehammer and bring them to training? The kit man?
https://twitter.com/DubGAAOfficial/status/907999473942528005
Whacking tractor tyres was all the rage in MMA years back, and flipping them and rolling them. Then it spread to crossfit (god help us)
I'd say Philly picked it up from Owen Roddy or something
Or, maybe tractors are just a way of visualizing Mayo 0 -
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