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Dublin GAA Discussion Thread - Capital Punishment
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What are the DCB playing at. Mattie Kenny won a county championship, provincial championship and AI club championship and has experience at inter county level and it looks like he will be overlooked for the senior county job? If he achieved the same in any other county and the senior job was vacant you can nearly guarantee he would get it
And what does Anthony Cunningham know of the Dublin senior hurling set up in terms of talent coming through etc. 0 -
What are the DCB playing at. Mattie Kenny won a county championship, provincial championship and AI club championship and has experience at inter county level and it looks like he will be overlooked for the senior county job? If he achieved the same in any other county and the senior job was vacant you can nearly guarantee he would get itAnd what does Anthony Cunningham know of the Dublin senior hurling set up in terms of talent coming through etc.
Have you heard something? It's all quiet on the hurling front right now. Seems like whatever the DCB were going to announ3ce backfired. Bit of a joke0 -
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gormdubhgorm wrote: »I will wait for the 5 in a row version...
Why do we all skip the number 4 in things like this?0 -
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Jack McCaffrey never played hurling at underage for Dublin
Not sure he ever played hurling. Do Clontarf do hurling
On more serious note, Dublin hurling cannot really be at elite level in competition with football.
In my lifetime, hurlers like Keaveney, the Foleys, Hanahoe, Mick Holden, Shane Ryan, Keaney, Kilkenny, Connolly, Costello etc, etc... have chosen to play football when they were all good enough to play for any county team. O'Callaghan now, who put in performance for Cuala in club final that has only been equalled by likes of Canning, Liam Watson, Shefflin, Doran...gone.
In 1962 Heffo told Vinnies players, which was basically Dublin in football and hurling, totally dominated the championships, that they had to give up hurling for county. This was year after coming within a puck of the ball of beating the greatest Tipp team ever. Won football All Ireland in 1963 beating one of best teams ever, the Galway three-in-a-row team. That was the end of Dublin as a serious force in hurling. We are only fooling ourselves.0 -
Not sure he ever played hurling. Do Clontarf do hurling
On more serious note, Dublin hurling cannot really be at elite level in competition with football.
In my lifetime, hurlers like Keaveney, the Foleys, Hanahoe, Mick Holden, Shane Ryan, Keaney, Kilkenny, Connolly, Costello etc, etc... have chosen to play football when they were all good enough to play for any county team. O'Callaghan now, who put in performance for Cuala in club final that has only been equalled by likes of Canning, Liam Watson, Shefflin, Doran...gone.
In 1962 Heffo told Vinnies players, which was basically Dublin in football and hurling, totally dominated the championships, that they had to give up hurling for county. This was year after coming within a puck of the ball of beating the greatest Tipp team ever. Won football All Ireland in 1963 beating one of best teams ever, the Galway three-in-a-row team. That was the end of Dublin as a serious force in hurling. We are only fooling ourselves.
Difference now is strength in depth.
When ever did a player as good as Diarmuid Connolly start they year not knowing if he would make the football team.
What does that say to young players coming through. The very very best players will get on the football team. For others, who are just below them, the choice might be between being a squad player in football or playing on the hurling team...
Clontarf do hurling very well at underage.0 -
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Lee did play senior for Galway however only for one or two years. Due to niggly injuries and becoming a doctor curtailed his intercounty career. He still plays with the Liam Mellows club.
Coincidentally I recently watched that match again on YouTube lately. The amount of players Dublin carried forward to senior level compared to Galway greatly surprised me. Along with Lee, at the time I thought Kerill Wade was destined for great things in a maroon shirt. I was only a young lad at the time, but the u21 semi final that year against Cork was one of the most exciting matches I was ever at, Galway won in extra time.
Apart from Anthony Cunnigham, who else is Gilroy rumored to be bringing into the set up? Surely Shay Boland would be a good move and an ex player like Conal Keaney?
I like the fact that it is someone living here. Would have preferred Kenny to be honest. Daly gave them a big boost of confidence, but I really don't think that someone coming to training twice a week works. As you know in Galway with Loughnane!
Cuala winning AI was best thing ever happened to Dublin hurling. Standard has improved because of that and been a few surprises. I'd be moderately optimistic, bearing in mind I've seen us beaten by Roscommon and Kildare... but we won't delve on that 0 -
Kenny is from my own club in Galway, I know him well. Was disappointed he didnt get the job to be honest, although I think he is a much better coach than a manager.Lee did play senior for Galway however only for one or two years. Due to niggly injuries and becoming a doctor curtailed his intercounty career. He still plays with the Liam Mellows club.
Coincidentally I recently watched that match again on YouTube lately. The amount of players Dublin carried forward to senior level compared to Galway greatly surprised me. Along with Lee, at the time I thought Kerill Wade was destined for great things in a maroon shirt. I was only a young lad at the time, but the u21 semi final that year against Cork was one of the most exciting matches I was ever at, Galway won in extra time.
Apart from Anthony Cunnigham, who else is Gilroy rumored to be bringing into the set up? Surely Shay Boland would be a good move and an ex player like Conal Keaney?
I like the fact that it is someone living here. Would have preferred Kenny to be honest. Daly gave them a big boost of confidence, but I really don't think that someone coming to training twice a week works. As you know in Galway with Loughnane!
Cuala winning AI was best thing ever happened to Dublin hurling. Standard has improved because of that and been a few surprises. I'd be moderately optimistic, bearing in mind I've seen us beaten by Roscommon and Kildare... but we won't delve on that
It ll be interesting to see if many of the players who left the panel last year will come back to Dublin this year. The only ones I think good enough though are Sutcliffe and the 2 Shuttes and maybe Cronin. The likes of Maguire, McCaffrey and Michael Carton I think have had there day and wouldn't be up to it anymore. Coincidentally with Ger Cunningham blooding so many younger players last year, I think the experience will benefit them hugely going forward and in 2/3 years time Dublin will be a force in Leinster0 -
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I like the fact that it is someone living here. Would have preferred Kenny to be honest. Daly gave them a big boost of confidence, but I really don't think that someone coming to training twice a week works. As you know in Galway with Loughnane!
Cuala winning AI was best thing ever happened to Dublin hurling. Standard has improved because of that and been a few surprises. I'd be moderately optimistic, bearing in mind I've seen us beaten by Roscommon and Kildare... but we won't delve on that
Not so sure about that. They are just one club. Yes, they had a great year, but they were led by a fabulous player, who then then upped sticks and left to play another code. It's not like they are at the vanguard of a movement and loads of other players and clubs are now going to follow in their wake, which will have a positive knock on effect on the intercounty scene.
I hate to be a negative nelly and I would love to be proved wrong. But with the drain of hurlers to the footballers, it is going to take a lot more than Cuala's success, if hurling in Dublin is going to really, really push on over all. It starts with retaining the loyalties of young lads in South County Dublin, surrounded by soccer and rugby and non sporting influences, never mind Dermo and Clucko's demi god status and arse full of AI medals. It is a very, very tough ask and Cuala are not able to carry the load on their own.0
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