Every min on BBC news Sky news all this week IRA IRA IRA

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Fratton Fred wrote: »

wow, touched a nerve did I. For someone who claims to not support the IRA, you are going to great lengths to deflect from their atrocities. It is justifications for terrorism that help radicalise people, be they in Bradford or Belfast.

I don't support bombing innocent people. I have no problem with targeted strikes against military targets from any armed force. So some things the IRA did were undependable, but I think McGuinness did a good job of steering the conflict towards military targets. The British actions in the north facilitated methods and garnered them support.

Do you see a correlation between the attacks on Saturday night and the actions of the Balcombe Street gang, who attacked innocent people in pubs and restaurants?

Not between the two organisations but between the two attacks yes. Likewise Bloody Sunday was far worse than either atrocity but from your posts I gather you don't consider the organisations similar.

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FrancieBrady wrote: »

I group everyone who uses violence in pursuit of their aims into the same category.

Tragic is the word.

And Britain's people are getting tragedy back...again for the actions of their leaders.

Tragic and idiotic.

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Irishweather wrote: »

I was thinking about this and it is irritating me aswell! More annoying with the people from Mainland UK talking about the troubles and bombscares, like they actually experienced what people in Northern Ireland went through!

Don't know why they keep bringing us into this!?

Lack of education. It's like white South Africans complaining about the ANC fighting back against and apartheid state. You'll get younger South Africans sometimes saying apartheid was exaggerated. On the British side you'll find few young Britons that know that Britain facilitated a sectarian state in the North. They'll know about the consequences about this (IRA) and presume this happened in a vacuum.

FrancieBrady

steddyeddy wrote: »

Tragic and idiotic.

Of course. You have to know when to stop too. The IRA did and I have tremendous admiration of that and the men who led the way, Adams and McG.
The British never learned how to do that, just stop and see will that help.

They will do, but many many British and others will die first. That is the 'tragedy'.

Fratton Fred

steddyeddy wrote: »

I don't support bombing innocent people. I have no problem with targeted strikes against military targets from any armed force. So some things the IRA did were undependable, but I think McGuinness did a good job of steering the conflict towards military targets. The British actions in the north facilitated methods and garnered them support.

i take it you also support what the RAF are doing in Syria and attacking ISIS

steddyeddy wrote: »

Not between the two organisations but between the two attacks yes. Likewise Bloody Sunday was far worse than either atrocity but from your posts I gather you don't consider the organisations similar.

So you can see why people are comparing the bombing of London pubs and restaurants by the IRA, with the attacks that took place Saturday night and see why the Media is drawing comparisons.

I don't think anyone has compared the two organisations though have they? My facebook and Instagram have been full up recently of people saying things like "We didn't blame the Irish or Catholics for the IRA campaign, so lets not condemn all Muslims, which seems a pretty reasonable statement and one of the reasons why the comparisons are being made.

Bloody Sunday was worse, the Birmingham pub bombings worse still. Is there some sort of league table I'm unaware of?

Fratton Fred

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I group everyone who uses violence in pursuit of their aims into the same category.

Tragic is the word.

And Britain's people are getting tragedy back...again for the actions of their leaders.

so the Brits are getting what they deserve?

Glad to see your true colours coming out again.

FrancieBrady

Fratton Fred wrote: »

so the Brits are getting what they deserve?

Glad to see your true colours coming out again.

No, the British people don't deserve what is happening but they are 'getting' it for a reason.

Well done on jumping to your usual conclusion though.

Atoms for Peace

It is also being talked up as snide way to get at Jeremy Corbyn.

Random Bloke

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

1 out of 10. You need to up your game if you want to elicit an angry response or get attention.

Strand 1 of the Good Friday Agreement confirmed that Northern Ireland is part of Britain. Fact. Possibly an inconvenient fact for some, but fact nonetheless.

My main issue here is that British media take an a-la-carte approach to Northern Ireland - the good bits are British, and the not-so-good bits (IRA in this case) are Irish.

If you don't agree with me that's fine, but lets not try to re-write the Good Friday Agreement to something that it clearly is not.

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Random Bloke wrote: »

Strand 1 of the Good Friday Agreement confirmed that Northern Ireland is part of Britain. Fact. Possibly an inconvenient fact for some, but fact nonetheless.

My main issue here is that British media take an a-la-carte approach to Northern Ireland - the good bits are British, and the not-so-good bits (IRA in this case) are Irish.

If you don't agree with me that's fine, but lets not try to re-write the Good Friday Agreement to something that it clearly is not.

Well then you'll know that the agreement includes the right to identify as either Irish or British. I think the IRA might identify as Irish TBH.

Peregrine

This thread started off as an inane rambling and has turned into the usual Northern Ireland arguments. I suggest you take that discussion to Politics Cafe where it belongs.