Leeds United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2020/2021

10000maniacs

We tend to get over-run when Kalvin is out. Brighton, Leicester, ManU, Palace and now Arsenal.

is_that_so

Rodrigo and Poveda are now back training.

Zaph

From Bielsa's press conference before the Wolves game - Klich and Llorente are available, Phillips and Rodrigo are not.

adaminho

Zaph wrote: »

From Bielsa's press conference before the Wolves game - Klich and Llorente are available, Phillips and Rodrigo are not.

It's a pity the 23's are playing tomorrow lunch time and the seniors playing that evening. 45mins for Llorente and a game on Monday would've been ideal.

NuckChorris1

Zaph wrote: »

From Bielsa's press conference before the Wolves game - Klich and Llorente are available, Phillips and Rodrigo are not.

Llorente is a bonus, but any time Phillips is out I dread the game.

NuckChorris1

NuckChorris1 wrote: »

Radz said his £100m investment trebled in value when we got promoted so this SF49 purchase of shares should be for £63m. ...

This valuation of Leeds confirmed by Radz today.

https://twitter.com/ArashMassoudi/status/1362348359403585536?s=20

adaminho

NuckChorris1 wrote: »

Llorente is a bonus, but any time Phillips is out I dread the game.

Shackleton to holding midfield? I thought with Struijk playing well the last few games at CH might have boosted his confidence moving up into the Phillips role.

Jimmy Two Times

adaminho wrote: »

Shackleton to holding midfield? I thought with Struijk playing well the last few games at CH might have boosted his confidence moving up into the Phillips role.

Think he's reasonable with the defensive side of the role but really struggles when trying to play out with the ball. Don't think the keeper or the centre backs trust him enough so options for beating the press are severely limited as was seen against Arsenal. Phillips has this knack of taking the pass on the half turn, getting away from a marker and making space for himself to start attacks. Struijk seems to need it in front of him all the time and invites the pressure.

This is why I think Dallas is better suited to the role in an emergency than Struijk,Klich or Shackleton.

No issues with Shacks playing further up the pitch but not in that pivotal position.

Zaph

If Llorente is fit enough for 90 minutes (a big if, I know) then I'd rather see him slot in for Phillips and Struijk back alongside Cooper in central defence. It would also mean that Ayling doesn't get pulled from right back again. I'd say me winning the Euromillions is the more likely occurrence tomorrow night.

NuckChorris1

+1 on Dallas there and let Struijk revert to CB. Llorente isn't going to start after so long out. A clip on MotD2 showed how Struijk was dropping back to CB too much and not offering the out ball to defenders. When he got the ball he wasn't able to buy space or see everything around the pitch like Phillips does. No one can replace Kalvin, but given how we play it has to be someone energetic for covering attacks and then instantly offering an option to defenders when a tackle is made. Also needs to be able to carry it forward with intent if the opposition mark all passing options. Not being bad, but if Struijk is carrying the ball into your half, you're going to leave it to him and mark the attackers he could pass to instead.

Ceist_Beag

Bielsa seems pretty convinced in his mind that Dallas is not the man for that role (nor Klich either, he said as much after the Arsenal game). He's not one to change his mind easily so I can't see him going with Dallas there.

NuckChorris1

Ceist_Beag wrote: »

Bielsa seems pretty convinced in his mind that Dallas is not the man for that role (nor Klich either, he said as much after the Arsenal game). He's not one to change his mind easily so I can't see him going with Dallas there.

Yeah, Dallas is just what I’d like to see but don’t think the starting line up will change at all. Bielsa does seem to know a little bit more than me about football so I’ll fully back his choice. Will be interesting to see who we go for as back up for Phillips. One that popped into my head but really unlikely is to bring back Ronaldo Viera.

whiterebel

NuckChorris1 wrote: »

Yeah, Dallas is just what I’d like to see but don’t think the starting line up will change at all. Bielsa does seem to know a little bit more than me about football so I’ll fully back his choice. Will be interesting to see who we go for as back up for Phillips. One that popped into my head but really unlikely is to bring back Ronaldo Viera.

Fabien Delph would be perfect for me in the holding position. Always reminded me of Viera.

Zaph

whiterebel wrote: »

Fabien Delph would be perfect for me in the holding position. Always reminded me of Viera.

31 now with another year to run on his contract. Not getting a regular game at Everton, they might be happy to get something for him in the summer, and he might be happy to settle into a backup role where he started his career for potentially the last couple of seasons before retirement. Could be a good shout.

Vieira is currently on loan at Verona and they have an option to buy at the end of the season, although I think he's only played a couple of times for them. However he's a lot younger than Delph and probably wants more game time, so he mightn't be too keen on coming back as an understudy, although I think he'd be a perfect candidate for the job.

Zaph

Kalvin's grandmother, who was a bit of a legend on Take Us Home, died this morning. Presumably that's why he's out tomorrow rather than injury. RIP

Ceist_Beag

Sad news, RIP Granny Val

event

Just saw that. The reason he didnt move to Villa too. RIP

purple hands

Ah that's terribly sad, she was a real character. Loved her cameos in the documentary. Just as Kalvin was about to sign his new contract, she pipes in with "Have you read it?"

And it was very clear from the doc that family was so important to him in deciding to stay put. RIP

event

SO thoughts for later? We should win, but Wolves are a horrible team to play against. And I am always fearful of Traore.

I wonder will Koch start and Struijk in midfield? Means not much change to the shape. I hope Llorente isnt rushed back. Let him work his way in. If we are winning easy with 5 mins to go, through him on

Jimmy Two Times

Think it will be the same as Sunday................unfortunately. Unlikely to change Struijk from Kalvin's spot.

Mightn't be as stiff a test for him against Wolves as they'll hardly press as high as Arsenal did.

If Llorente is ready he may play and Ayling may return to Right Back.

Can't see any other changes unless Klich isn't ready.

purple hands

About time we had a draw.

Might be wrong but I thought there were a lot of positional changes in the second half on Sunday. Maybe trying a few different things out with tonight's game in mind. Would be surprised to see Llorente thrown in though.

Zaph

U23s currently 1-0 up against Norwich, and missed a penalty. Neither Greenwood nor Gelhardt in the squad, so possibly on the bench tonight.

Ceist_Beag

Zaph wrote: »

U23s currently 1-0 up against Norwich, and missed a penalty. Neither Greenwood nor Gelhardt in the squad, so possibly on the bench tonight.

Greenwood is injured apparently but certainly looks like Geldhart will be on the bench. Lovely article on the Athletic about the two of them, certainly seem like exciting talents.
I don't really expect to see any change this evening either unless maybe Klich doesn't start, in which case it's probably Roberts who will come in. It would be nice to see a bit more of Huggins and maybe get a glimpse of Geldhart at some point this evening.

Jimmy Two Times

Zaph wrote: »

U23s currently 1-0 up against Norwich, and missed a penalty. Neither Greenwood nor Gelhardt in the squad, so possibly on the bench tonight.

Still 1-0 and we've had Nohan Kenneh sent off,they've had 2 sent off.

c.p.w.g.w

Anyone know where I could get live audio commentary for tonight's game?

Will be working

Jimmy Two Times

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

Anyone know where I could get live audio commentary for tonight's game?

Will be working

If you can get BBC Radio Leeds on the Tune in App or via their website.

Otherwise I think LUTV have it for 99 pence.

Kingp35

Jimmy Two Times wrote: »

If you can get BBC Radio Leeds on the Tune in App or via their website.

I thought BBC Leeds don't put Leeds matches on their online apps due to rights issues.

Zaph

Jimmy Two Times wrote: »

Still 1-0 and we've had Nohan Kenneh sent off,they've had 2 sent off.

Finished 2-0, 96th minute penalty

Jimmy Two Times

Kingp35 wrote: »

I thought BBC Leeds don't put Leeds matches on their online apps due to rights issues.

Didn't know that,apols.

Never had to try listen. But it is on BBC Radio Leeds.

event

Ceist_Beag wrote: »

Greenwood is injured apparently but certainly looks like Geldhart will be on the bench. Lovely article on the Athletic about the two of them, certainly seem like exciting talents.
I don't really expect to see any change this evening either unless maybe Klich doesn't start, in which case it's probably Roberts who will come in. It would be nice to see a bit more of Huggins and maybe get a glimpse of Geldhart at some point this evening.

Please no

stryker mcqueen

Rumours on Waccoe of Strujik dropped, Davis in for alioski at LB.... Llorente starting and Dallas a DMF

is_that_so

Jimmy Two Times wrote: »

Didn't know that,apols.

Never had to try listen. But it is on BBC Radio Leeds.

5 Live too.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000scbc

10000maniacs

event wrote: »

SO thoughts for later? We should win, but Wolves are a horrible team to play against. And I am always fearful of Traore.

I wonder will Koch start and Struijk in midfield? Means not much change to the shape. I hope Llorente isnt rushed back. Let him work his way in. If we are winning easy with 5 mins to go, through him on

Not so sure. Without Kalvin we are chaotic at the back. Nobody taking control.

Damo 2k9

Although i’d love to see Struijk back at CB, I think Bielsa is still going to play him at CDM and Ayling in the middle.

Interested to see the team no doubt.

is_that_so

https://twitter.com/LUFC/status/1362839374329708545
Roberts did OK the last day.

Damo 2k9

Be interesting to see the formation he goes with, I would hope struijk and dallas in the back 4 and either klich or shackleton in the philips role.

Roll on 8 bells, a win would put us back into the top half overnight

Ceist_Beag

Presumably Dallas to lb then and the rest is as they lined out the last day

event

stryker mcqueen wrote: »

Rumours on Waccoe of Strujik dropped, Davis in for alioski at LB.... Llorente starting and Dallas a DMF

I wouldnt trust majority of the idiots in WACCOE tbh

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Formation is interesting, something like this?

Ayling - Cooper - Struijk - Shackleton/Dallas

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Klich

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Raphinha - Shacklelton/Dallas - Roberts - Harrison

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Bamford

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10000maniacs

is_that_so wrote: »

https://twitter.com/LUFC/status/1362839374329708545
Roberts did OK the last day.

Gulp.
Although to be fair, Alioski may as well have not been on the pitch in the last game.

whiterebel

I'm not confident, I must say.

Mushy

Yeah not confident, but Wolves aren't too prolific either. Wont be much in it anyway

event

Looks like

Ayling - Cooper - Struijk - Dallas

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Shacklelton

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Raphinha - Klich - Roberts - Harrison

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Bamford

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Seathrun66

Mushy wrote: »

Yeah not confident, but Wolves aren't too prolific either. Wont be much in it anyway

And I like that defensive line, may help Struijk to know it should be pretty solid behind him.

I think we'll score, hopefully Coady won't be as good again. And they won't sccore many. 1-3 to Leeds.

Ceist_Beag

Happy with how they're lining up. Dallas following Neto around.

whiterebel

Shack needs to play 5 yard further forward. We’re giving too much space away in front of goal.

GoldFour4

Ah Cooper needs to be scoring that header or at least making the keeper make a save.

Seathrun66

If Wolves are restricted to 20 metre shots then I'm happy. Meslier can deal with them. Though could do without the sloppy passing in our half.

We usually take over possession 20/25 mins into a game so I'm expecting us to go up a gear shortly.

10000maniacs

Very like the first Wolves game. They have players who can pick us off.

Mushy

10000maniacs wrote: »

Very like the first Wolves game. They have players who can pick us off.

This is my worry now, although creating chances ourselves.

Wolves should be 1 up there

10000maniacs

I remember what the issue was with Tyler before he was sidelined. He does not know how to offload.